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holy shit i love the look of this.

Awesome poster, it does raise the question if the Riddler would be the next villain. I would love to see him, I would also love to see Scarface, Killer Croc, or Clayface. But you have to continue the story. So they can't bring back Two-face because he's dead that would be awkward bringing back a dead guy. And if the Riddler is the villain you have to bring back Jim Carrey.

tWO-fACE IS NOT DEAD.

In the late 19th century, a wealthy merchant named Cyrus Gold is murdered and his body disposed of in Slaughter Swamp, near Gotham City. Fifty years later, the corpse is reanimated as a huge shambling figure (composed partly of the swamp matter that has accumulated around the body over the decades) with almost no memory of its past life. Gold murders two escaped criminals who are hiding out in the marsh and steals their clothes. He shows up in a hobo camp and, when asked about his name, one of the few things he can recall is that he was "born on a Monday". One of the men at the camp mentions the nursery rhyme character Solomon Grundy (who was born on a Monday), and Gold adopts the moniker. Green Lantern and Solomon Grundy clash many times over the years, though he also squares off against other DC heroes, including Batman. One storyline (Batman: The Long Halloween, #12) involves Grundy and a newly-disfigured Harvey Dent striking up an odd friendship after Dent escapes to the sewers to plot his revenge on Carmine Falcone, the man responsible behind Dent's facial disfigurement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Grundy_(comics)

Villains don't stay dead in comics. Did you see Two-Face strain and then go limp? Did you see blood coming from his body? Did you see him get buried? Killer Croc was taken care of in the inbetween-quel I think (The Gotham Knight). So you most likely won't be seeing him in live action, which would look weird coming from a Batman movie anyway. I'm still standing firm on my support for Robin Williams to finally be The Riddler, even with him being aged. The guy is awesome in serious roles. Then you could throw in Angelina Jolie as Catwoman and bring back Two-Face out of nowhere half-way through the movie. Batman could be spotted with Catwoman after stopping her from stealing from an up-town jewelry store, making it look like he was in on it or something. Then have their love/hate relationship go from there while Batman is chasing down The Riddler. The Riddler could trick Gotham into thinking he's a good guy who's trying to find out who Batman is once and for all so he can be arrested for "killing" people. Then Two-Face shows up and turns the movie on its head, clearing Batman's name and making The Riddler go into overdrive. Well, I'm done rambling out bad ideas. I'm definitely not a writer.

This was made by a member at Superhero Hype, where I post aswell. He also had a version without the title. http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=15451938&postcount=12809 http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=15455922&postcount=12841

From a Graphic Designer to another, Great poster/design!!! Looks and feels exactly what I want the next Batman movie to be, a cross between TDK and Se7en. Jim Carrey back as the Riddler? Only if he reinvents the character to a more serious role, not that campy Riddler we saw in Forever. Still got my money on Guy Pearce as the Riddler though. Anyways, good job!

I would LOVE a Riddler that was psychotic like Jigsaw, anything else would be just too boring for this franchise.

The obsession of finding where batman is/the best method of capture, and the deciphering of batman's identity is an absolutely fantastic way to introduce the riddler.

I think clayface would make the best sequel. His character has so much emotion and depth that it could make for a very interesting movie. I think the riddler is a bit too jolly and similar to the joker, so having the riddler as the next villain will more or elss result in a movie with the same plot as the Dark Knight. Mr. Freeze or Clayface for the win.

I heard a thing that Depp was the riddler and seymour hoffman was the penguin but it coulda been false

Notice the Harvey Dent story on page one is penned by Vicki Vale.

I absolutely do not agree with any Angelina Jolie involvement in ANY of the Dark Knight movies. There are significantly better actresses out there, ALL of whom would lend more than some shallow juvenile "hawtness" to the role of Catwoman. Or any other female character in the series. That being said...I LOVE this poster, but it's TOO similar to the Joker's viral campaign. If the Riddler DOES make it to the revisioned series, too, I hope it's NOT Jim Carrey, and also that it doesn't involve the use of neon lights (AT ALL) or corny jokes.

That is a cool poster. they should make that movie. With the Riddler and use that poster. And pay the gu who made a bunch of money for copyright.

No disrespect, but doesn't The Riddler seem mildly ridiculous as a villain? The only Batman media where he played even a vaguely major role was in the Adam West series, and that's because Gorshin made him manic and wild, like The Joker has been in every other incarnation since. The Animated Series, Batman Forever, the comics since the early 90s have all but admitted he's kind of silly. In a visceral world like the one that Nolan has created, it's very difficult for me to believe someone like the Riddler, Clayface, Mr. Freeze or Killer Croc, simply because of their absurdity in other media, whereas I could follow Scarecrow or Joker. So I don't know if I buy this Riddler hype. Great poster though.

I am wondering more about the theme of the next movie rather than who the villian will be.

AMAZING FAN POSTER! Hopefully you make them for a living because it is better than half the shit out there now as posters. I heard Catwoman though will be in the next one with Jolie as the part. Rumors, but awfully enticing.

This is by far the greatest fan poster I'VE ever seen, Nolan would be proud of it. I never liked the riddler because of Carrey's rather lame attempt but under Nolan this could be quite special and twisted like his previous film Insomnia which I loved. Speaking of which, I remember a while ago somebody mentioning a certain actor for the part of the riddler, someone who could make the character scary,creepy,funny without being too familiar to Ledger's Joker and most importantly, believable. One Robin Williams. Yes, strange, but so was young, handsome Heath Ledger as the joker. Think about it, under Nolan, Williams can create a disturbed mind and even someone whos obsession gains sympothy. His older age will only add to the character, another chance for Nolan to only hint to his past, bright or dark, while we ponder on his connection with Batman or indeed Bruce Wayne. The poster above curiously contains Harvey Dent's picture, maybe I'm reading too much into it, maybe its just to show that people still remember him and that he is still connected with Batman and Bruce wayne through Two-Face and rachel, but such an obvious sign shows maybe this person believes that its not the end of Harvey two-Face, however I was thinking maybe it means that it is not the end of Hravey Dent. Who says Dent must remain evil, his character should come full circle should Nolan choose to ressurect him,who knows, that was what was so brilliant about TDK finale.In terms of other villains, Riddler wont, no matter who portrays him, hold the film himself, dont forget a large chunk of TDK wasnt Joker but Dent and with him gone(most likely) who can fill the void? The loss of a female lead bring speculation of CatWoman with delicious rumours of Angelina Jolie playing her but should her character appear I can see Nolan casting a not so well known actress who'll bring balace and something different than Gyllenhal and Holmes. For me Melissa George of WAZ and 30 Days of Night should get the lead or a more obvious choice which has been popular, Jennifer Connely(I cant see her being cast, just a feeling, shes not Nolan's style of actor). But, sadly there will not be a catwoman, simply because there is still a bad taste from Halle Beary's so called 'film' and just that thought would make people think less of the film. So,no penguin or Mr.Freeze which means that Nolan will go for someone who hasnt appeared on celluloid, Black Mask seems popular but his character seems cliched and I think Nolan will see that. Deadshot for me sounds interesting but wouldnt fit in well to Batmans new and improved world and again his motives are a bit well, cliched. So who does that leave alongside the riddler and (maybe) arevitalise Dent, well as a nice way to wrap up argubly the best trilogy since LOTR, Al Gul, Talia Al Gul. Out not to avenge her father's death but to lure Batman in to the League of Shadows, her character, rich from her father's exploits knows Batman's identidy and secrest which plays in with Riddler's and Gotham's hunt for the dark knight. Wayne falls in love, Batman msut eliminmae the enemy, thus the conflict of Batman not helped with The Riddler's quest for his identidy. I can imagine a wonderful scene in the rebuilt Wayne Manor of Wayne(not Batman) fighting Talia, conflicted while doing so and Batman being on the run leads the way for more of Bruce Wayne, for instance chipping away the playboy image and slowly becoming a figure like Harvey Dent. For a finale, well I'd like to see a look into the league of shadows at what kind of people work for them who were once lost like Bruce wayne, perhaps a certain escapee(or two) causing Batman to call on their assistance, leading to a new global saction of Batman. To play Talia, again I think Melissa George would be good, but maybe she is too young and dosent pocesss that 'dark' and mysterious vibe for that character, maybe Sophie Marceau if shes not too old or another Bond girl Olga Kurylenko of QOS to add a bit of spice to the character. For Joker, well God knows, but for a different take they could call on an actor who looks completely different than Ledger or try to find someone with similar physical looks to him. Personally I prefer that first option and Adrian Brody is just waiting for that call With the second option I pity who takes it on, Depp would be the closest but I wont suggest others as unless they change the look of the Joker recasting him would be pointless and stupid.

Anybody notice the Dent article in the poster was written by none other than Vicki Vale?

Love it. Somehow I have a feeling even the official posters won't be as good as this.

Thats def not real bro... thedarkknightreturns.com is not a real website.

I was thinking of batman while taking a crap and it came to me that he has 6 main villians ,joker , penguin,dr.freeze, 2-face, posin ivy, ridler. catwoman got her own movie so she's out. so 3 can be about riddler .4 ivy. 5 freeze N' pengiun. and add robin any anywhere.

This is an awesome fan made poster. You are very talented. Here is my idea for the 3rd Nolan Batman film: Gotham City “Batman is in hiatus and Bruce Wayne is seen a lot more. With more time on his hands we see Bruce more involved in Wayne Enterprise, and with the help of Lucius and Alfred, we see the Bat-cave complete. As a result of spending more time with company business he begins to pay closer attention to some employees and fires a few of them, one of them being Edward Nigma., who seems a bit psychotic and has obsessive-compulsive disorder. Wayne is a lot more social and has become good friends with Dr. Victor Fries and his wife Nora, both of whom are employees at Wayne Enterprise. Nora becomes an innocent victim and is left to die in a freezer. Wayne sympathizes with Fries since both of them lost loved ones in a city full of crime. Bruce tries to take Victor under his wing, but instead of trying to get rid of crime in Gotham (like Batman) he decides to avenge his beloved wife. Meanwhile, As a result of being terminated from Wayne Enterprise, Edward Nigma has become obsessed with Bruce and begins to stalk him. He notices a close relationship with CEO Lucius Fox and decides to kidnap Fox (Lucius being the closest person to Bruce after Alfred.) Ed Nigma decides to give in to the theatrics and “freak” idea of new criminals and becomes The Riddler. The Riddler is a complete psycho, killing people and blowing up Wayne companies and leaving riddles that will eventually lead Wayne to Fox. As a result of his crime The Riddler begins to taunt the missing Batman. The Riddler is trying to the draw out Batman (he thinks Batman is the only person that can help Bruce find Lucius). We also see a new criminal. He kills mobsters in freezers and pours liquid nitrogen on their bodies and leaves them unrecognizable. He calls himself Mr. Freeze because of the way he kills his victims. Mr. Freeze and the Riddler are Gotham City’s new threat. Batman is overwhelmed with fighting criminals and trying not to get captured by the authorities, the people of Gotham need him. Gordon calls off the manhunt and begins to work with him once again”. So there’s my idea. It’s obviously not the best but hey, I’m no writer. The reason for wanting to see Mr. Freeze and The Riddler in this film is because I know they both have good stories. Besides Chris Nolan is a genius. If anyone can pull this off it’s him.

I was hoping that with Batman's fall at the end of the movie that this would hint at a serious back injury which Bane could take advantage of and provide a weakness of Batman who would have his back broken by Bane. This could introduce Azrael or Robin for Batman's assistance. Also, another scenario is to reintroduce Mr. Zsasz, but in a different light. Zsasz has a wealthy upbringing similar to Bruce Wayne, but with a tragedy he loses his family and his ability to feel, smell and taste (similar to Robert Carlyle playing Renard in "The World Is Not Enough"). This would allow him to push his body and test Batman.

I think that the Riddler fits in nicely with Nolan's take on the world. I think that the introduction of Catwoman would make good sense as well, although I'd have Jessica Biel play her rather than Angelina Jolie. I think that playing the Riddler like a cross between John Doe from Se7en and the Zodiac Killer could work very, very well. You could definitely push the tone of the character to a much different place than where they went with the Joker.

Besides being a great GREAT poster, it is simply fan art... Whoever the villain is (are) in the sequel I guess that the style, the art, the visual aspect has to be completely different... This poster is based on the Joker style of TDK... In the sequel it has been something entirely new and completely different (visually) such has TDK has been...

How can the dark night returned since he is died where he is 'the dark night - Joker'.

You know this is a cool poster, but it doesn't offer anything original from the Dark Knight posters. It's the same "scribble" type of symbol that the Joker used to draw on everything. However I dig the Riddlers hands. Even for something so small that's a cool look for a character normally green and spandex clad. But I still doubt Nolan and company have even started the process of making another sequel. At least I hope they haven't. I'd wait as long as it takes if they can put together a smart movie like Dark Knight again.

I don't know if some one before said anything about the Robin in the new Batman movie ...but I read an interview with Christian Bale and he said : What ? Robin !!!??? If Robin be a part of the movie .. I will never be in that movie ... ! I am not so sure if that is true or not ....because it was in the Bulgarian magazine ... and really I don't have any trust in any Bulgarian stuff ... but I am just letting you know if some one ells heard that in other medias ... please confirm it ...

Lieutenant Ramirez of the Gotham City Police Department visits her mothers house,one late winters night, the place were she grew up, when everything seemed simpler. Standing over her old bedroom, across still lies her mother's display of wooden African masks, even at 32 she is terrified at the sight of them, her greatest fear from childhood being brought back. 'For decoration' her mother said, as much as she loved the old lady the sight of her patronising her daughter with, 'honestly, what fear can be brought from an old wooden mask.' still infuriates Ramirez, but she ignores confrontation and preceeds downstairs, when it happened. The Joker stands outside the suburban house, his thugs surrounding the quiet home, pouring gasoline over the sides as they do so, in one hand he holds a loudspeaker, in the other a match. 'Detec.. sorry.. Lieutenant Ramirez and mother may I please have your attention for just one moment.' Ramirez stares out the window, a look of horror at the startling face of the prince of crime and with a quick wave the joker lights the match and fires it onto the gasoline. A chain of devilish flames engulf the house, tearing through the inside, though not as quickly as the joker would like. Running to free her mother from the living room, the joker watches, but with no smile. 'You know being locked up all that time has changed my own patience, I just want to see carnage all the time, having been without it, so…' He takes out a grenade and tosses it through the living room window, now he laughs, hysterically, before disappearing into the Gotham night. The blasts form the grenade sends Ramirez flying out the patio kitchen door, knocking her unconscious, leaving her mother to burn in the Jokers flames. The result of the night leaves Ramirez's mother dead, her own face scarred and the house burnt to the ground. Looking over the debree, the lieutenant sees a familiar shape lying on the ground, mask, burnt black, its meaning to her changed. With Joker causing destruction and Gordon and even Batman getting nowhere, ramirez takes the mask, wearing it to show what fear really can be brought from it. Her methods questioned, more brutal than Batman or Two-face, she becomes the Black Mask, taking down criminals and in time the government, leaving a mark on her victims by cutting off their faces, keeping her identidy as Lieutenant Ramirez intact,but for how long. As for Bruce Wayne's discovery of who or what lies at the warehouse, will that debate is open to anyone, for me I think a group of vigilantes, as conflicted as Bruce Wayne and not the drones we saw in begins and perhaps people who are already in Wayne and Batman's life.

the poster is great. but they'll never use the title "the dark knight returns" just because of the miller comic. and as much as I love hear and reading all the speculation on who the villain will be in the follow up to the dark knight, it's my opinion / guess that Christopher Nolan (his brother and David Goyer) all have a better idea up their sleeves. I've been waiting to see if anyone else has really thought of this... and I still haven't seen it. my feeling is that everyone is trying so hard to think of the next villain (of which yes, there may be a collection of them, from Riddler to Catwoman, whatever...) but my feeling is, that the next villain in the Nolan/Batman series will be: BATMAN. why not? it ends (spoilers) with them saying that they're going to have to "hunt" him. and everyone who's read the great Miller series DKR knows that "HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT" was the title of the third book. so it's my guess that "HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT" will be the title of BatmanBegins3. I also think that, in perfect storybook, beginning-middle-end form and fashion, Nolan told Batman's beginning, Dark Knight was it's middle, and so, this final movie will be... his cataclysmic END. I think he's going to surprise us all and END BATMAN with his third movie. (but probably with a wink of his own... cause it is Batman after all.) of course, it's a guess. (and that takes nothing away from the poster which does look AWESOME. good work on whoever did it.)

DUDE!!!! that poster is freaking AMAZING!!!!!! i dont kn if there will be another movie featuring our favorite flying rodent BUT if there is a possible thing... this poster contains countless AWESOME characteristics of the riddler and possible plot innuendoes 8-D PLEASE LET THIS BE REAL!!!!!!!

Actually for those trying to imply that The Riddler and The Joker are basically the same, nothing could be further from the truth... The Joker basically has no personality of his "own" so to speak and can, depending on the day, be as nice as can be or a vicious killer...where as The Riddler is at the opposite end of the spectrum and is always calculating odds, always making deathtraps and HAS to include the riddles and clues, it's a vice of his...part of his compulsive identity... Also The Joker has no real problem with who he kills, if he is trying to kill 1 person and 63 end up dying, so be it...The Riddler is quite different, he works hard at getting the person he wants and only that person at that time... The Joker is more upfront, willing to engage physically and has been over the years, hurt in every way possible...while The Riddler does not look for direct physical confrontations and is more adept into secrecy and blackmail as routes to get to his victims... One storyline that copuld actually work well for alot of people that have posted on here is the HUSH 12 part series...With Nolans style of film making, he could easily adapt that storyline to fit the current style. Take for instance The Riddler has cancer and is connected to the lazarus Pitts of Raz, which in turn would bring about the character Hush(i could see Hush as a minor villian in the movies)someone that the Riddler can use to his purpose. Elliot's character of Hush is tied into Bruce Wayne, which would easily fit into Him working with The Riddler in a joint cause, which would be perfect...Hush wants to kill Wayne, The Riddler wants to kill Batman, and both have no idea(until the end of the movie)they are after the same person. Then as part of the movie, the riddler sets up one of his elaborate deathtraps(like the water filled pit or something)using minor role apperrances of scarecrow, clayface, croc, poison ivy, harley quinn and finally The Joker has escaped and looking for revenge gets word of this plot and offers to lead the attack... To get into Batmans head, The Riddler uses Clayface to form into Jason Todd(Robins character)and get Batman feeling guilty and depressed...thinking he's dead, and that batman will lose the will to fight... All the while Todd is still alive, and sees the The Joker beating a cloned copy of himself on TV(one of The Jokers bad habits, using TV to frighten people) Todd comes back and shows up in the Bat Cave ready to bury the troubled past between him and Batman(makes for a better plot)and help rid Gotham of the infestation of villians trying to take over the city... It could easily work, it would get alot of characters on the screen, and you would have to get all into the telling the background part, because they would be like hired assassins... meanwhile, 2Face, has been slumming in the sewers(my idea is Amnesia, it fits the point of falling like he did)and then suddenyl comes to and realizes he has to find out what happened, as he still isn't quite sure as to what actually transpired... The war between Batman and Robin and the Villians is reaching epic proportions in Gotham, batman for the first time in the series, is getting his ass handed to him, to many villians to handle, while The Riddler is consumed with trying to figure out who he is...The Riddler is going all around Gotham and blackmailing and extorting all of the prominent people to get the info...meanwhile The Joker has the time to set up a serious bomb, something like a small dirty bomb and actually detonates the bomb in the middle of Gotham... 2face joins the fight, not sure if he hates Batman or likes him, but decides he has to ride the city of the villians first and foremost to protect the citizens... Just my opinion...it could work...and could even be pulled off as 2 part movie within the series...

The perfect inspiration for the Riddler re-incarnation would come from Malcolm McDowell's character from "A Clockwork Orange". Some tall, lanky, British guy with a malicious smile and a sharp blade hidden in a cane would completely revitalize the Riddler character. That character mold would certainly present the Riddler as a serious foe to The Batman. Of course, there would need to be another villian in the movie. Every other Batman movie usually has another villian that plays second fiddle at times and then has their time in the spotlight to inflict serious damage on Batman. Ra's Al Ghul and Scarecrow Joker and Two-Face The Riddler and ???

Riddler and Talia Al Gul

Johnny Depp as the Riddler!

70: fraid I agree totally with 9; Nolan has already got a chilling turn from Williams with Insomnia and his ability to turn from sympathetic conflicted man to crazed Riddler would be brilliant. He isnt the obvious choice, thats what is so fascinating about it, I mean admit it, you frowned when you heard Ledger of A Knight's tale would play the notorious Joker, didnt you. I did and am happy to admit i was incredibly wrong.

I think Joaquin Phoenix might be an interesting choice. He hasn't sunk his teeth into a good villain role since Gladiator.

i'm not sure if this is beating a dead horse, but this is PROOF that Dent is dead. http://movies.ign.com/articles/898/898426p1.html

David tennet should do

The Poster is pretty good. But as far as some of the other comments go, I agree that catwoman should be left out of this. The Penguin will not make it into the third film because Nolan had stated very strongly that he absolutly hates the character and will never use him. Bale had already said he will only do another film if Nolan does it, and if there is no Robin. He said something along the lines of "I'll chain myself to my house and refuse to come in." Id like to see the riddler, harly quinn with Ivy, Clayface, Black Mask, or the Mad Hatter. Maybe even someone else that hasn't been used before.

very, VERY nice poster! personally, i feel the next character in the line of villains SHOULD be The Riddler. ....& Crispin Glover should play him.....PERIOD!! ..originally, when i heard that production was about to start on "The Dark Knight", i said that Glover should play The Joker...& i still think he should've - with all due respect to Heath Ledger(R.I.P.), as his take on The Joker was quite groundbreaking & poignant - Glover would've added an even crazier edge/mood of The Joker. ...so, i'm going to put my cards on the table & say that Crispin Glover should play The Riddler. Johnny Depp's a wonderful actor...but - as his role as Willy Wonka in "Charlie & the Chocolate Factory" proved - he's not good in every film & i don't think Depp could really bring the puzzling chaos that The Riddler should provoke. but here's another lil' something, though...seeing as The Joker didn't die, i believe Nolan was going to bring him back(especially after the dynamic performance Ledger gave), if that's still his plan, let Glover do it. ...folks, BELIEVE ME!!...Glover would rock ASS in either role!!

If they intend to use this title, the REAL villain of the film must turn out to be a big blue bully with a red cape who works for the government.

people think in batman 3 like a fusion of zodiac and saw and hope like hannibal lecter if the joker has so brilliant plans riddler has to be better not only that just imagine if they do again a viral marketing now using the riddler it will be so cool jim carrey don it great in the number 23 so i think they can give him a second chance and other villians that could appear i think catwoman, black mask, bane, think in villains that they are not like super mutants like mr frezze, poison ivy, clayface. because how nolan make them real if you see the ones that have appear are villians that could be real

NOOO! they better not name the next movie as The Dark Knight Return they should save it as the last movie make 2 or 3 more movies with him young have robin come in the next movie have him die in the one before the final one and have the final movie follow Frank Millers the Dark Knight Returns

I don't think any of the names mentioned are worthy of any of these characters. Keep in mind that Christopher Nolan goes for the ACTOR, not the movie star. Heath Ledger was a star, yes, but not a HUGE star (he didn't open with huge weekends outside TDK). Chances are Nolan will find the best, most unpredictable actors. I think Johnny Depp would suck because he'd be way too obvious a choice.

wow, great poster. had a similiar visual idea of the Riddler as the villian with his whole body covered in tattoos of questions and symbols (rather question marks on green spandex!), but something he can cover up, cause maybe by day he's someone who's looking for answers. Detective or P.I. is too obvious, someone more like a priest or evangelist or something, and he starts to see the Batman as a question God is asking him directly to answer, a riddle he must unravel as it in turn unravels him In that vein I reckon Daniel Day-Lewis would be a phenomenal Riddler, give gravity to the role That's my ten cents, use it, don't use it

I think the Riddler should be played by the same guy who did it last time. Jim Carrey. Reason: I don't see ANYONE who can capture the essence of the Riddler better than he did. Disagreements?

Now that would be impressive! I got chills up my spine when I saw that makeshift poster. The kiddie drawing of Batman is hillarious! The hands with ink remind me of Kevin Spacey's nutjob serial killer from SEVEN. That raggedy question mark is eerie as hell hinting at a sociopathic Riddler much unlike the one Jim Carrey portrayed. And I just love how The Batman is still grabbing headlines but from the other side of the fence! Whoever made this poster is a visionary! I wonder if this person is a screenwriter or perhaps just a very talented graphics artist. Very cool poster and a killer concept!

yo i read everythhing even down to the tiny print-u did this to every detail-u make me think u might actually know sum people over there in the WB....

WHOA! It just hit me like a thunderbolt! Vicki Vale's name on article. She(Vale)will get the public to believe in The Bat again through her reporting. Riddler is staring at articles on Batman and Dent. The Riddler will find Dent(maybe he is still ALIVE) and maybe team up with him? But now it sounds too much like BATMAN FOREVER huh? HMMMMM....The Mystery continues! Nevertheless...

I don't think Catwoman would work at all in Nolan's universe, it took a large portion of Batman Begins just to explain why Batman wears his costume and frankly cats aren't exactly the most terrifying of animals. I thought that the third film could pick up approximately three months after The Dark Knight and follow the theme of redemption (the title "Batman Redemption" is one that I could see happening). Bruce Wayne has not fought crime as Batman for three months and the police department are vigorously hunting him, scavenging on any clues they can find. The public has lost faith in Batman although the impostor Batmen still believe in him and continue his struggle with little success. Gotham City is confused and no longer has anyone to believe in after the death of Harvey Dent. The police department has hit a dead end in their Batman search but a series of crimes soon are being committed by an unseen man called The Riddler who gives the police clues about the next crime he is going to commit and encrypts his codes in a series of riddles and puzzles (similar to Kevin Spacey's character in Se7en) which have all the information needed to prevent the crime if they are decoded. Meanwhile, Bruce Wayne having to no longer deal with his role as Batman has begun to invest large amounts of time in the future of his company and has become more cynical and reclusive in the process. Bruce still feels guilt over not being able to save Rachael and Harvey and his relationship with Alfred and Lucius has become strained. Bruce pushes Wayne Industries into taking over a company run by Roman Sionis, Roman resists stating that his father started the company and that it will destroy his father's work. Bruce merges the company into Wayne Industries and must contend with the fact that he and his company are becoming something that his father would not approve of. Roman has dinner with with Sal Maroni who was a friend of his father's and uses his mob connections to wreak havoc on Bruce Wayne and his company. Black Mask can be unique because his fight is not with Batman but with Bruce Wayne. The Riddler's clues are too difficult for the police to solve and the crimes continue to terrorize Gotham and after much reflection and turmoil Batman returns to stop The Riddler's crimes but the police continue to chase him. The Riddler only supplies his clues to the police department and Jim Gordon who is becoming the new White Knight of Gotham secretly supplies Batman with the clues leading to an investigation into the police department workings. Black Mask begins to unite the mob who are in tatters after Dent's crusade against them and plans to attack Gotham's economic infrastrucuture by terrorizing big companies and bringing the mob back up to it's once untouchable status. Bruce Wayne gets back into his social life and barely survives an assassination attempt in public by the Black Mask. After recovering, Batman begins to fight back against Black Mask's new mob who has been sabotaging Wayne Industries and other companies. After foiling his plans Black Mask captures Coleman Reese who publicly announced that they knew who the Batman was. Reese has been denying to the police that he knows anything (Bruce Wayne did save his life after all) and states that he merely did it to get attention and is now in protective custody after the Joker fiasco. Black Mask makes Reese divulge that Bruce Wayne is Batman which further enrages his hatred against Bruce and decides to end everything once and for all. With The Riddler and Black Mask simultaneously terrorizing Gotham, Batman must redeem himself in the eyes of the public and work to be the great man his father wanted him to be. Batman could possibly work to redesign a sleeker Batmobile (and one that could possibly turn into a boat to evade the police - I believe the production designer stated this was a possible idea). The Joker is still alvie (if they have extra Heath Ledger footage or just recast him)and kept in the highest level security in Arkham Asylum where doctors fail at trying to rehabilitate him. The Joker isn't a major role in the third film but he quietly reaffirms his menacing presence. In the conclusion of the film Batman confronts the Joker in Arkham and the Joker painfully reminds him that as long as he lives, Batman must exist because the walls of Arkham are not going to keep him in forever - The Wayne Mansion will be halfway rebuilt and The Riddler could be tweaked by secretly playing both the police and the mob or something along those lines. The Riddler will not be seen until the concluding act of the film and I could see Crispin Glover playing him as a cowardly and physically weak man who has an ultimate plan I have yet to think of. Johnny Depp is not being seriously considered by the producers, that was a rumour started by the National Inquirer. Black Mask will launch far more personal attacks on Bruce Wayne and make him confront everything he has become and although his revenge story is a bit cliche, Nolan could add some of his own flare to make it realistic and unique. Jim Gordon could be charged with aiding a criminal (Batman) and the stakes will have to be higher than The Dark Knight.

Greed has never stopped the machine Ross. Just look how they milked the old Batmans to death!

#15 hit it right on. a riddler whose crazy like jigsaw but without the traps of the saw series. but also like jigsaw who has complex moral issues such as giving the people he puts in life-threatening situations a chance to survive by way of major personal loss. and GREAT poster

hmmmm. Robin williams is an interesting choice. Hes a bit too old, but that doesnt mean he wont do a good job! Look at his performance in One Hour Photo, he was frickin scary. But my number one choice would be depp. Also, that poster KICKS MAJOR ASS! That poster should be used, and the creator with large credit no doubt about it. The words on the riddlers fingers should be used too. For the riddler to be the right villain, he should be psychotic, twisted, and at times a bit funny. What im concerned about though, is his outfit. I have no idea how theyre going to perfect that. but i have complete faith in Nolan. :}

They(The Nolans and Heath Ledger)got The Joker right. His green hair was long and uncombed. His pancake makeup was smeared on. And he had eyes like a raccoon with that blood red smile covering his scars. Perfect! And his suit was still purple(like the comics)but toned down. He wasn't loud like Nicholson's Joker was! I think the perfect look for The Riddler was captured on the phony movie poster titled GOTHAM KNIGHTS. Go check it out and see what I mean.

Whether it's intentional or not, I've really enjoyed the breadth of genre Nolan's explored with the first two films... Let me explain: Begins was a drama. The focus was set on Wayne, his troubles and the growth of his character, making mistakes and fixing them, while at the same time saving Gotham. Learning the whole "Why do we fall down... to pick ourselves back up" bit. The Dark Knight was obviously an action flick. With Batman upping the ante on crime, it's only logical that the whole escalation thing occurred. The spectacle we saw was testament to that, making TDK arguably the best action-oriented comic book movie of all time. Now, one of the main reasons why the Riddler would be a great choice for the third installment is that the film could be written into becoming a very smart, suspenseful murder mystery story with insane plot twists. For one, this is right up Nolan's alley... and two, it would make such artistic sense to continue building this franchise into a collection of genre jumping films. There's no reason the Riddler wouldn't work. The Joker has begun the transformation of Gotham's crime community from organized mobsters to insane masterminds and villains... through his own appearance and, more importantly, turning Harvey Dent. Joker was the catalyst (Scarecrow doesn't count because he was just a goon... a middleman between Falcone and Ra's) and through the Joker is the doorway in which all others villains will follow suit. So, after starting the wave, who better than an ego-propelled manic to take the vacant mantle, leaving the city stumped and helpless? IMO, it'd be the one who truly believes he has brilliant enough a mind to do it. One theory that I share with some of the posters here is that Two-Face is alive. TDK merely depicted the demise of Dent. They left the door open, however, to the birth of Two-Face. There's no reason why they can't reveal, in a suspense/mystery thriller, that Two-Face had a hand in whatever was going on during the course of the yet unwritten film. There's no reason that they can't justify the possibility that Dent survived the fall, but locked him up like a caged animal in Arkham to protect his "white knight" martyrdom... especially after having put so much emphasis on protecting that image. And I say "caged animal" because it's a fact that he carries enough resentment after TDK... imagine a Two-Face after breaking out of a padded room he was locked in for an extended period of time... Could be the kind of muscle that a villian like the Riddler could team up with. So bear with me and imagine a murder mystery-based plot that focuses on allegiances: A series of murders begin to occur in and around Gotham, all left with mysterious, encrypted sheets filled with symbols. Seemingly, there are no relationships between the murders, other than that they are all public servants, from attorneys to beat cops. Eventually, the killing spree continues with Maroni and his mob, then the MCU cop Ramirez. All of these murders are also left with encrypted messages that leave police stumped. Gordon notices the pattern of murders, and with no one left but him and Batman knowing the true story behind it all, he gets scared because he starts to notice a pattern. Batman decides to keep close watch and finally saves Gordon at the last second, both barely escaping Gordon's death plot in a fiery battle. They secretly work together to solve the mystery, where it is revealed that Two-Face did survive the fall in TDK and ended up getting locked up in Arkham... and escaped around the time the murders began happening. The entire plot was a scheme between the Riddler and Two-Face, with both getting something out of their evil alliance: Riddler assists Two-Face's revenge plot against the "real monsters" of Gotham... in other words, everyone involved in ruining his life and all the people involved in the "White Knight burial"... those who covered up the truth in order to save face. The Riddler received inside info from Two-Face as to who would get in Riddler's way of becoming Gotham's new powerhouse criminal entity. They worked together to eliminate the right people they needed to in a similar way that Gordon works together with Batman to figure out who is behind all this, and how to solve the mystery/problem. In the end, Dent is exposed by the media and Batman's name is restored, thereby giving him the freedom to openly work with the police once again in ridding Gotham of its true enemies. However in the end, despite the defeat of the baddies, the Mayor's office (and possibly the police dept?) ends up losing the trust of the people of Gotham because of Dent's cover-up, and gets blamed for months of dangerous streets without Batman's protection and presence. The relationship between Batman, the people, and Gotham's public servants are again at odds. For part four, we'd be stuck in a position where these three establishments have trust issues. And this might sound like a far cry, but imagine a villain who could have the power to persuade people, and use even the most random and innocent bystander to do his bidding through mind control, thusly destroying the relationship between all? Imagine the media frenzy with Both Batman and the Police hurting seemingly good people, though trying to fight an unseen yet greater evil? How bout it folks, the Mad Hatter? I think it'd work and, if told like a horror story, it'd definitely fit the "genre jump" pattern. Anyway, just a random contribution by a fan to this already great list of ideas. Keep sharing, everyone!

Nolan's Batman franchise should be kept as a trilogy, there's no need to continue it past a third film. I don't think both Two-Face and The Riddler should be in the next one because it would just make it feel like a revamp of Batman Forever. Johnny Depp is also too big of an actor and his involvement was an unsourced myth started by the National Enquirer. The Riddler should not be seen until the concluding act of the film and he should also be physically unimposing and cowardly to differentiate him from The Joker. I'd also prefer to see a villain that hasn't been used in past films and the one who's not really receiving attention is Black Mask who could mesh perfectly into Nolan's universe. I also think Nolan's not going to heavily rely on the villain in the promotional campaign, Batman Begins' ads did not focus on Scarecrow or Ra's Al Ghul vs. The Dark Knight which heavily relied on The Joker. I believe the third film will put more focus again on Batman's character instead of the villains.

Well Bob I think Two-Face is dead too. Yeah,he looked pretty dead to me. I went to the Public Library with my children and guess what I saw folks? An issue of BATMAN. #4 of a 7 part story on THE RESSURECTION OF RAS AL GHUL. Yep. I think The Nolans will finish what they started in BATMAN BEGINS. That makes perfect sense doesn't it? A final resolution to a conlict unsolved.

So I doubt we will be seeing Riddler or Penguin anytime soon folks.

Once again, BLACK MASK!!!

Nah! If I were Christopher Nolan, the plot should go like this. If he were to put The Riddler on the sequel to The Dark Knight, I do think Johnny Depp could be quirky, awesome and crazy enough for the role. But, hey, I could be wrong. If he were to put The Riddler in, The Riddler a.k.a. Edward Nigma should be like an assistant of Lucius Fox or a new employee of Wayne Enterprises. He just bugs the hell out of the company by saying all these things of what changes or what new things should happen around Gotham. Then Lucius Fox or Bruce Wayne we have to reach their Whit's End by firing him by saying, dude your too crazy or something. To make the plot make sense, we got ourselves a start. Then Nigma goes out of his mind and becomes The Riddler. Getting minions and mobs together by just bugging the hell out of Bruce a.k.a. Batman. Then The Riddler just shoves down his changes or his crap down Gotham's throats and stuff and goes out of his freakin' mind and Batman tries to stop him. So, hey, that's my opinion. What do you guys think? But, Christopher Nolan could have something even more interesting up his sleeve. I don't know. We'll find out. I'm just saying, that'd be awesome.

As for a title, I think Batman Redemption is perfect (who says we can no longer have "Batman" in the title). The whole Riddler being an employee of Wayne Enterprises makes him too similar to Mr. Earl and Reese and it sounds too similar to Batman Forever. The Riddler should be a kind of unseen mastermind behind a series of crimes. The reason I think Black Mask is more plausible than some other contenders is because he was already part of the script for The Dark Knight but removed later. Besides, I think it's better to let the light shine on some villains who have been shoehorned by the tv series and films.

Dark Knight Returns is to throw people off! Dark Knight Returns is already taken and most likely Zack Snyder will direct it! I think Dark Knight will be contained in the title. We can only guess as to what the actual title will be. Dark Knight Rising? This would signify Bruce Wayne rising from the ashes like The Mighty Phoenix to kick some serious ass! Dark Knight:Requiem? Bruce Wayne is on the run from the police,people fear The Bat. The Villain(s)make their move on Gotham! Dark Knight Triumphant? Bruce Wayne restores respect to The Bat and order to Gotham City...for now anyway!

It is a cool poster. So is Gotham Knights poster. Check that one out too. Hmmm. I wonder if these guys are Chris Nolan's nephews or brothers-in-law! LOL!

I'm no comic book expert, but in the graphic novel 'The Dark Knight Returns' I'm pretty sure that the Riddler doesn't appear. Unless the creator just wanted to use the name, and in no relation to that particular comment. That said, the design is amazing. I've seen it at SHH. However, the theme relies heavily on the already stylization of The Dark Knight, which seems somewhat redundant. OK I look silly criticing a fan made graphic but still, lol.

How about you do a bit of reserch before you start posting like an idiot in all caps: tWO-fACE IS NOT DEAD! Eckheart said it himself. He's dead. Gone. Kaputt.

Angelina Jolie as catwoman? Im a huge angelina fan, but i would like to see her as any super human anything really. Halli Berry wouldnt do such a bad job again. The movie CatWoman itself bombed, but her acting in it wasnt bad at all. We could always grab danny devito for another penguin pitch.... and i Would LOVE to see Jim Carey come back as the Riddler. Uma thurman as Poison Ivy.... but yea. WHat evs

Nah The Nolans are keeping it fresh! They are a far cry from Burton and Schumacher. They gave us Scarecrow and Ras Al Ghul. Never been done until Batman Begins. Then they reinvented The Joker and Two-Face with The Dark Knight. And Batman is darker,meaner,and tougher than we have ever seen him before! The Nolans told Jack Nicholson to take a hike so what makes you think they would revert to casting former actors in their famous roles? They took a big chance with Heath and it paid off! Bring back Berry,Carrey,and Uma?? LOFL! Please. How about Anne Hathaway as Catwoman? She is sexy,she breathed new life into Agent 99 and Get Smart was a hit! How about Guy Perce from Memento as The Riddler? How about Oliver Platt to play The Penguin? Hell,he looks just like him! Go check it out! Get someone like Alicia Witt to play Poison ivy! Now that's casting! Fresh and original. Not the "same old faces" in "been there,done that!"

It can still be done. Most people polled say Brittany Murphy should play Harley Quinn. I say Alan Cumming or Adrien Brody can play The Joker. Johnny Depp could probably match Heath's Joker. They could put Harley and Mr. J. in the next movie or even give them their own movie! Base it on MAD LOVE. There,problem solved! And Vicky I hope you see more to the tragic death of Heath Ledger. The real tragedy is that Heath died just as he was about to peak. But my dear that's how legends are born...

Harley Quinn cannot be adapted with the Nolan's Batman universe. I loved her in the animated series, but not every lovable character can translate into live action. Give Harley and Joker their own movie? Um, okay. Tony...you kind of ruined your argument when you suggested Anne Hathaway for Catwoman, after you just said Nolan supposedly "done something that's never been done before". Well of course, it's a reboot, so they're going to introduce new characters in Batman Begins. Thee Nolan brothers aren't going to cast actors from previous Batman films, Tim Burton didn't cast anyone from Adam West's show, so I don't see why some fans are suggesting the likes of Jim Carrey to play the Riddler again LOL. I don't think those type of fans (and you know who) understand the nature of Christopher Nolan's vision of Batman. That includes Harley Quinn. She stays in the cartoon where she belongs.

Bane is the next character they must reinvent...Batman and Robin's depiction of the guy that put batman out of commishion in the comics is just plain sad! He is not the dumb ape and sidekick of poison ivy they show him to be. Now the question is who could play that massive man?

I know Harley will not get in, I just want her to. We need the Joker as well for Harley to be in, so maybe in 10 years, when Nolan is done and a new man takes up the privilege of making batman movies, we can see Harley.

Yah, but Nolan is different. He is one of the few people in the business thats an pure artist and not a money maker, and Nolan has almost all creative control. Nolan will do whatever the heck he wants, and I don't think that Harley is in his plans. And didn't Catwoman and Elektra bomb?

As for the issue of Harley Quinn Vicky,they polled people on the net(why the poll?)about who should play Harley Quinn. 25%(the highest number)went with:Brittany Murphy(8 Mile,Downtown Girls). So don't be surprised if we meet the Nurse Harleen Quinzell anytime soon...

Yah, I really don't want Catwoman. Much rather have Riddler even though he's been done.

1. You make it sound like there is defiantly not going to be a Batman 3. Its not official, but its sort of taken for granted that Nolan, as unwilling as he is, is coming back. And he probably will. 2. I don't want a Joker spin off. If you read my posts, you would know that I have accepted the fact that Harley Quinn will not be making an appearance under Nolan, and it would be stupid if she was a lone villain. She needs either Joker or Poison Ivy to work. 3. Who are you to say that Harley will never be featured in a live action Batman movie. The next person who takes on Batman 10 years from now will have huge shoes to fill after Nolan and will have to stray from mainstream Batman such as Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, Twoface, ext... I didn't include Joker because there are so many ways to portray him. 4. Why are you telling us to stop speculating on a website about speculation? I won't explain this point because there is no point on explaining it.

Man this Angela has her head up her fucking ass! GO READ MAD LOVE and then tell me how a spinoff wouldn't work!

I never said Catwoman was going to be in the sequel!!! I considered the possibility. It's what I do. I am a visionary. AND THERE WILL BE A SEQUEL WITH OR WITHOUT NOLAN! Mark my words. 513 Million Dollars is nothing to sneeze at! And yes Titanic The Dark Knight is gunning for Number One. Sorry, Jimmy Cameron! And HEATH LEDGER WAS BETTER THAN JACK NICHOLSON TOO! Sorry,Jack! Loved you in The Departed,though. I WOULD LOVE A JOKER SPINOFF!!! I can't get enough of The Joker. That guy knew how to control a room! And I would love to see Harley and Mr. J. kick up some dust! Hell,I'll even write the godammed movie! A fun-house version of Bonnie And Clyde! GIVE THE FAN BOYS WHAT THEY WANT! As for the sequel,um I think The Joker was intended to come back but a sad thing happened. Heath Ledger took too much medication and he died...

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Joker lives...

Wow! Who knew the internet was that serious? You seem a little obsessed. I wasn't criticizing anyone, just giving my opinion in general. I wasn't talking about Lee Meriwether, I'm talking about Angelina Jolie herself. I've never heard her specifically say she's interested in the role. That's nice if Meriwether has a suggestion for casting in a future film. But it's as if saying Catherine Zeta Jones wants to be Wonder Woman, which to my knowledge she has never spoken about, only that Lynda Carter suggested that should would be a good candidate. I wouldn't want to see a sequel if Nolan isn't apart of it. Who knows, he could want to take a break from Batman, which I wouldn't give him slack for. Although I doubt he would leave, I don't think fans would be paranoid of another repeat of the last 2 of 4 Batman films. You can't compare Jack Nicholson to Heath Ledger, the characterization and movies were too different to compare. I prefer Heath, but Jack had a lot of iconic lines and scenes ('ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?' being my favorite). I read Mad Love, thank you. I don't think a spin off would work, not a live action. A woman dressed up as a full body suit Harlequinn would look ridiculous. It'd remind me of Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy. That and, nobody could do the voice like Arleen Sorkin, it'd be just a bad imitation. The only director I can picture putting Harley Quinn in a live action Batman film is Joel Schumacher. He has a taste for things like that; he could be over doing the make up and what not. The neon colors of Batman and Robin, for example. And what does my website have to do with anything? LOL. I think you need to step away from the computer. But I take it you took a peak, so thanks for visiting!

man...dude. calm down. you sound like a psychotic masochist.

scratch that....a psychotic misogynist

Yes, Eric, you dolt I was standing on a pile of razor blades as I wrote that and, uh, I was barefoot!!! LOL! You people are something else...and I didn't mean that as a compliment!

Eric shove your psychology dude! I never killed anybody! NOT YET ANYWAY...TEE HEE...

Hey Eric my last screenplay was based on Jack The Ripper. You want to analyze something? Analyze my nutsack you Dr. Phil wannabe! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! HO HO!

Blood drips off his blade. ALWAYS LEAVE EM SMILING I ALWAYS SAY! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Ferocious, ain't I? TEE HEE...

Cuts off Eric's testicles and force feeds them to him...laughing the whole time he does this...

Hack? Yeah I'm a real cut up! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Tony, dude, what the hell is wrong with you. I was on your side until you ruined your argument with all your moronic statements. Angela has a much better argument by now than you

That was the beauty of MAD LOVE, Slash. A female counterpart to drive him crazy! And with Harley Qunn at his side,The Joker would be twice as dangerous. They're both crazier than two hens in a shit house!

Vicky you still here??? Thought I told you to GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! You need some help or what?

You know something Vicky? Why couldn't it be YOU instead of HEATH?

I'm full of good questions.

david tennant would be great! but does anyone knows who is it going to be?

There's some villains who should just not be adapted to film. Penguin - Not in the least bit intimidating and he's jsut too "normal" to compete with Batman. Mad Hatter - We want to see a Batman film, not an Alice in Wonderland lover. Killer Croc, Clayface, Man-Bat - Not happening. Catwoman - Most people I spoke to laughed at her inclusion. Hush - Too whiny. Harley Quinn - The Joker's a lone wolf, he doesn't need an accomplice. On the other hand, there are several villains who could work. Black Mask - A mob enforcer. Rupert Thorne - A politician with mob connections. The Riddler - Even though he's been done before, he's the most realistic of Batman's greater known villains. He could be a villain along the lines of John Doe in Se7en who left clues for a masterplan. Deacon Blackfire - The people of Gotham look to a new hero in the war on crime. Deacon is a false prophet who organizes a cult similar to the Batmen.

Just go draw a hot bath Vick and let the blood flow...

Snicker,snicker.

Why do you even come here? Do you have any other purpose besides ruining this conversation for everyone else?

Alrighty then, knock yourself out

I think he could too. I told my friends that if the Joker absolutely had to be recasted, then make it Depp, cuz his joker probably would have been close to what Heath did.

I duno. The executives are still going back and forth on deciding wither to recast Joker. It all depends on what Nolan wants. They did recast Rachel Dawse, so may be we might see Joker again.

Uh, for your info Angela(my old nemesis) Adrien Brody and Sean Penn,among others,tried out for The Joker. So, yeah check your resources there!!! Ledger was the FINAL choice you dolt! Sheesh!

From what I understand. I read somewhere that Brody was their second choice. Now,The Joker is still alive at the climax of The Dark Knight. Joker was the epitome of Dark Knight. He stirred the pot so to say. Many people who saw this movie agree that it was all about The Joker. He pushed Batman to his limits and created Two-Face. He even tells Batman "I think we were destined to battle each other forever..." So all I'm saying is this. We will be seeing more of The Joker. His story arc is not complete. Order cannot exist without chaos to reign over. The Joker told Dent "I am an agent of chaos." Brody will play The Joker. Batman and Joker will meet again. Maybe this time,it will be final.

There is a method to Joker's madness so to say. Read THE KILLING JOKE and you'll get a better understanding of the man's psyche. They almost make you feel sorry for the poor bastard. And since this IS a Riddler site,I reccomend the one-shot RIDDLER AND THE RIDDLE FACTORY.

Very true. Lets save Jony for another vilain. Putting Jony Depp in as joker would be way to noticable and bothersome.

Yes a lot of people will say that Heath will get an Oscar out of simpathy and that no one else had a chance because they didn't die. I say that no one else had a chance because Heath was just so damn good and no one could match him. Like I said, they are still going back and forth on Joker or no Joker. If they do have the Joker again, it sure as hell is not the executive's disision. THe executives have spoken and they want Depp as Ridler and PSH as Penguin. If Joker comes back, its all Nolan.

@ Tony: Yes I have seen those. I read that they were demo screen shots and are probably just some preliminary deleted scenes. The one with the Joker in the back seat was one of the first Ledger Joker screen shots to appeer on the interweb to calm people down and prove that he was a great choice.

To all those detractors that Angela referred to,I have one thing to say to them. Fuck them! I had no respect whatsoever for Heath Ledger until I caught his act in The Dark Knight. I took my 12 year-old daughter with me. She said Heath played a cool Joker. I was blown away to say the least. I knew from the promo on I Am Legend that Heath was going to work some magic. Heath's Joker is so far removed from Nicholson's ass-clown of a Joker. A force to be reckoned with. I read that people were disgusted with the "faggot cowboy" from Brokeback Mountain playing The Joker. Man, they were dead wrong. I read how some people felt that Heath's "Australian accent" would trip him off. When you see The Joker in Dark Knight,he sounds nothing at all like an Aussie! In fact,one cannot tell that "pretty-boy" Heath Ledger was under all that make-up. Heath will win Best Actor for A)Helping to give us The Best Batman Film To Date,hands down. Check the stats! B)The creepiest villain to grace the screen since Hanibal Lecter. And C)For losing himself in the moment. For totally immersing himself in his charcater. Heath did not just play The Joker. He WAS The Joker. And isn't that what acting is all about? GOD rest your soul Heath. And thank you for giving us your craft.

I only disagree with Tony in one little aspect: I have always liked Heath. I loved Knights Tale and Ten Things I Hate About You is the only chick flick I will ever admit to liking. On the other hand, me being a homophobe, I had to ignore the fact that he was in Brokeback mountain. However Tony, I really don't see what your argument against Angela is. She stated that she can't wait for TDK to be on DVD. You stated that you thought Ledger was awesome. What exactly are you two fighting about at this point? Who is king of the site?

And yes Tony, Titanic is extremely over rated. Gayest movie of all time.

Hey Vicky,I'm a lover not a fighter. I think Angela is just warm for my form!

Yup, thats close enough. Its still kinda hard to explain it fully

You know, truthfully, if its only going to be a trilogy, I say go for fresh villains, but if Nolan would get off his high horse and do like five or six movies, then I think there is more room for Mr Joe Ker.

And since the "relationship" between Batman and The Joker is such a paradox,that is why it has endured for 68 years. Right?

Sounds great, but there is a flaw. TV special affects are not as good as movie secial effects due to financial reasons, so I don't think it would work.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I would love to see a movie in witch Catwoman's single appearance is going on a grab mission for Joker and as with all his minions, by by Catwoman. But please, now I need to know. How did you kill her?

Well Vicky my villain was FREEZE played by Robin Williams. Near the end of the movie,Catwoman kisses Batman. Dying Freeze goes for his Ice Pistol. Catwoman pushes Batman out of the way and cracks her whip back. Freeze lets her have it. Encases her in an icy tomb. I killed her off for "dramatic effect" and to tie up her storyline. Although you got to admit the dichotomy of Bruce Wayne/Batman and Selina Kyle/Catwoman is an intriguing one. I did explore their odd relationship.

Interesting, but by the sounds of it, Catwoman was in the film to long. Kill her of as quickly, grusamly, funnily as humanly possible.

The Dark Knight pulled in nearly a billion dollars worldwide. Look at SMALLVILE(a minor hit). They have pulled it off for what? Eight years now? Looks pretty pricey too for network TV.

Besides,I liked how Daniel Waters and Wesley Strick captured Catwoman and Penguin for Batman Returns. I think the quality of the Batman movies declined when they fired Tim Burton as the director and brought in new writers. The Riddler came off as a fag in Batman Forever! Two-Face was just silly and Arnold's Freeze was overblown. Uma Thurman was wasted. Bane was retarded!

As for old TV Show FX. You can tell that Captain James T. Kirk is fighting someone in a rubber suit. And my 12 year-old daughter laughs her ass off at old episodes of Twilight Zone! And don't get me started on that cornball Batman TV Show!!! Recall those dixie paper plates with string! LOL!

pathetic fuck-stick...why don't you go right your fake make-believe script and keep up w/ your meds...and tell the doctor to up the milligrams on your lithium.

Jimmy Schlong? LOL! Let me guess. Porno star reject right? Fake script? Sigh. Whatever. Is your schlong fake? Do you come up short in your pants as well as your IQ? LOL! Lithium? I don't touch drugs BUT I am borderline. Want to find out just how crazy I am? Yeah. I didn't think so...

make you Jimmy Stump! LOL!

"On this job application,can I list Homicide as one of my hobbies?" HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Hey Alex you want me to leave,I will. See you on the streets Jimmy!!!

Thanks for being in my corner Vicky! Smiley face. And I wasn't arguing with Alex. I told him I would leave this thread if he wants me to. At least you believe in what I do. Or at least want to accomplish.

Hey Vicky go to Remembering Heath Ledger At Pop Watch Blog if you want to read my memorials to him. Okay?

Hey Vicky are you that gal from over at Gather?

@Tony: I'm a dude, so no, I'm not the chick ur thinking of. @ The Pantom: Its alright, but its not the best possible. Your sort of on a good track though.

No problem Tony, easy mistake Ya Phantom, you've really thought this through. Are you really an executive in WB and are telling us a prevew of the plot? Its good, but it needs some polishing. The more I think about it, the more I like the basic idea, but it just doesn't seem like there is room for much action. And wouldn't Batman's mask be taken off if he was in jail, and I'm sorry, but Gordon can't die.

haha Tony. Best of luck in that little excursion. Is there really going to be a Tim burton Alice? Thats odd. But Johny did say that he thought it would be "fun" and "interesting" to play Riddler.

It would be cool

Awe man. RIP Paul Newman. I hope that you, Brunei, Richard, and Heath have a great time in the sky.

Ah ye, I knew I had forgotten someone my obituary. Isaac Hayes flew right over my head. Sorry, o king of R&B. And I had Bernie in there, I just spelled his name wrong.

I have a friend in WB. If you have any ideas about Batman 3, you are free to send me a e-mail at marko.kortsi@mail.ee

Nolan and co. are on a well-deserved vacation and he's most likely going to work on another film project before he works on Batman 3. I'm just hoping that it'll be out by 2011 and I can begin counting down the days. The TV show idea is a really interesting one that I think is possible either through live-action or animation. I'm just hoping that it'll keep in the same vein as the Nolan-verse and give a realistic reimagining of Batman's most famous enemies. For the villains in Batman 3, The Riddler is the most realistic and easily adaptable of Batman's greater known foes but he'll have to go through major reworkings. His story (being angry at being fired) is really cliched and it could be changed to make him more of a genius with a serious obsessive compulsive disorder. I've also heard that he can be reimagined as a police aid and that's an incredibly interesting take, so far no villains have sided with the police.

NARRATOR: Bruce Wayne was a child when his family was taken from him. Now,as a man,Bruce Wayne fights crime as The Batman. So if you're on the wrong side of the law. You had better beware. Because The Dark Knight rules these streets. The streets of a city called "GOTHAM".

Valid point. BUT LOL I already got like 10 or 11 storylines going in the pilot!

Oh! Better story for Harly Quin, even though it strays away from the comic book further, but it would really make her out to be an awesome character. Have you seen the movie "Mr. Brooks"? Basicly there is this guy that kills for the hell of it and one night, he kills a couple having sex. Well there was a perv that use to spy on the couple because he had a huge rush from it, but when he saw Mr. Brooks kill them, he got the biggest rush of his life and forces Earl Brooks to take him along with the killings. Well, basiclly, Harly is watching the news and up pops up the tape of the Joker robbing the bank. For some unexplainable reason, she gets a huge rush of excitement. Then she is in her car, and all of a sudden, she passes by the Batman vs Joker exchange when Harvey Dent admitted to be Batman. She gets an even bigger unexplainable rush. Then, when Joker says that he is going to blow up a hospital, Harly disides to drive there. When she witnesses the hospital blowing up, she gets such a huge rush that she discoids to become Harly Quin as we now her. Inbodiement that the people of Gotham can be as messed up as The Joker and there for making the Joker the winner. This can cause a small wound to open every time Batman encounters Harly Quin.

How about Harleen Quinn as a profiler for The Gotham City Police Department? She's a psychiatrist who figures out what makes criminals tick. This mysterious Joker intrigues her to no end...

Hmm... interesting concept Mr. Tony. Now your thinking up ways to kill the "OH! She, so adorable!" stereotype that has ruined all of Quinn's chances of being featured in Nolan's film.

Ya, I like any idea that makes Quinn look deep and adaptable into the Nolan style Batman. Naturally, I like my idea better, cuz its my idea, but your the screen writer.

Angela stated that Harley Quinn is too far fetched. Um,there are villains in The Batman Universe that are pretty far fetched compared to Harleen Qunn,the nurse who becomes Joker's lover. The Killer Croc and Clayface are OUT there if you ask me!

I could see Jack Black playing The Mad Hatter.

"what did you do with harvey dent?" the cop asks me. "me?i was right here." i show my hands to prove my point. "who did u leave him with? your people. assumming ofcourse they r still your people and not - meronies. does it depress u commisioner? to know just how alone u really r. does it make u feel responsible for harvey dents current predicament?" "where is he." now this sounded more like a command than a question. and i don't like to be - commanded. but i answered anyway. "uh.what's the time?" "why does it matter?" "because depending on the time he can be in one place... or several."

HARLEEN(hesitant) Tell me about the women in your life... JOKER(perking right up) Mom was a peach. Had no sisters... HARLEEN(pressing on) Any romantic interests? JOKER(musing) Ahhh. Let's see. There was that nun. I raped her. I was wodering,Nurse. Does that make me devout? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! (bangs on the table startling Harleen) I gave her some Religion! TEE HEE! HOOOOOOO! HARLEEN(defiant) Are you trying to shock me Mister Joker? JOKER(now leaning in really close) My dear,if I wanted to shock you...I would draw you a hot bath and toss in your hair dryer. (sitting back) No,no,no. I'm just giving you a glimpse inside the old wormhole. Enjoying this? HARLEEN(ever so defiant) Not really. No. EXCERPT FROM MAD LOVE By Anthony Lee Arguien That's how it's done,Britt!

I think Harley Quinn lives to impress Mister J.

Go check out Sammilky's poster concept over at PhotoBucket. That's a little more telling!

Den of cunts in here! its a great poster, or has everyone forgot about that?

Ah Vicky, it's not you it's that this idiot who calls himself James Bond has a really small penis and he's ticked off about it! That's all!

I mean after all,only a complete loser would dare call himself James Bond...

I know dude.

Haha, well u do have quite a colorful personality.

Think I'll be The Joker for Halloween...

oh god what a sad bunch of individuals, are we going to discuss the posters qualities or...? it has shades of zodiac about it, especially in the far right corner. p.s leave bond alone, he cant help his name and i think he may be onto something? i bet you check this every day

i apologise for my previous outburst, you haven't done anything to be fair.

Cool poster but I want to see more of THE JOKER!

Awesome movie! I've seen it 10 times, and I'm going to see it at least one time a month this year.

hey i did not read all the posts so i dont know if this was mentioned but why not go with a little of the story line from dark knight returns graphic novel? its so awsome... it would transition well and you can spice it up with the riddler(though hes not originally envolved much if any).though there would be some plot gaps its a cool idea.

Very nice poster. Excellent 'atmosphere'. 5 Stars. Would more than love to see Riddler as the next villain.

I think clayface would make the best sequel. His character has so much emotion and depth that it could make for a very interesting movie. I think the riddler is a bit too jolly and similar to the joker, so having the riddler as the next villain will more or elss result in a movie with the same plot as the Dark Knight. Mr. Freeze or Clayface for the win.