Roland Kickinger Filling in for Schwarzenegger in Terminator Salvation
by Kevin Powers
July 17, 2008
The first teaser trailer for Terminator Salvation just hit yesterday afternoon and today we gain even more insight into the highly anticipated (at least to me!) project slated for release in May of 2009. Ever since the film's announcement, a pressing question has been whether Arnold Schwarzenegger would reprise his role in some capacity (even as a cameo). Given the former Terminator's political standing, I've constantly brushed off the possibility. It seems I can continue to do so, since the Clinton News-Record out of Ontario (thanks AICN!) brings us word that Schwarzenegger-inspired bodybuilder Roland Kickinger (seen above) will assume the role that the "Governator" would have otherwise filled.
Kickinger seems a smart choice considering the man's background. Similar to Schwarzenegger, Kickinger is from Austria, a career bodybuilder who recently turned to motion pictures. Of the original cyborg assassin, Kickinger says, "He was a great mentor. I had several mentors, but Arnold… he's definitely an amazing inspiration." The two actually trained together at one point, and Kickinger even played Arnold in a A&E biopic. If McG can't have the real thing, he's definitely come as close as possible.
Of Kickinger's role in Terminator Salvation, you can head over to the original article since it's somewhat spoiler-ish. But without actually reading the small bit of info, I bet folks can envision Kickinger's role in the overall film. You know he has some part as a hulky T-800, but he's not the key antagonist considering the guy's minimal experience. Not to be down on him, but he's mostly a prop that connects the new trilogy to the original series. But as with other casting (e.g. Helena Bonham Carter, Common), McG is keeping up the tempo. I think it's another solid choice adding more to the production. What about you?
Reader Feedback - 19 Comments
That pic looks like Mark Walhberg on steroids, but cool
Richard on Jul 17, 2008
He'll probably be a good guy and then get caught by the machines and they'll use his body as a tempate for the Terminator models. Bet thats what happens.
Knight Rider on Jul 17, 2008
the weird thing is, if you discombobulate the name Roland..you get Arnold...cool
Garrett.king on Jul 17, 2008
Somewhat looks like Arnold.....kinda
Ryan on Jul 17, 2008
What's funny is that he played Arnold a few years ago for the TV Movie See Arnold Run, for FX. He's a perfect choice because he sounds just like him too.
Kent on Jul 17, 2008
Maybe Kickinger could be one of the few skins that were used in the production of the T-800 and 101's There could have been a few humans with the body of Arnolds. So there still is a chance maybe to have a cameo at the end of part 5 or 6. here is the info on how they got Arnie's body for the Terminator... http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Dieter_von_Rossbach Dieter von Rossbach Dieter von Rossbach was a former agent that lived in Paraguay when Sarah and John Connor moved there. By coincidence, he was the likeness that would be used for the Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 Series 800 terminators that hunted and helped them previously. Quotes Holmes: "How bad do you expect this thing to get?" Dieter: "Bad. Not as bad as it would have been six years ago maybe. But bad. Billions dead. End of civilization as we know it. Possible extinction of the human race." Holmes: "I really hope she's crazy, Dieter, if that's an improvement over the original version." Dieter: "I wish she was." Appearances * T2: Infiltrator * T2: Rising Storm * T2: Future War
REAL6 on Jul 17, 2008
Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 From Terminator Wiki The Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 is referring to "the mould around the metal endoskeleton (the skin), and in this case, 101 refers to mould number 101" . James Cameron states that "...the model 101s all look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, with a 102 looking like someone else...".. It is also sometimes called CSM-101 or simply Model-101. History The Model 101 skin covering grown for the cybernetic organisms was based upon U.S. Air Force Chief Master Sergeant William Candy from 2004. Volunteering to give his likeness to future military robotics, Sergeant Candy's head was laser scanned by Cyber Research Systems (previously known as Cyberdyne), the resultant 3-Dimensional representation of his face being stored for future use. When it came to creating the human tissue model for T-800 Series, Skynet used this stored information, along with the data from various other human head scans, to model the Infiltrator faces on. The Model 101 has been used at least on the T-800 and T-850. Naming confusion In The Terminator, Kyle refer the Terminator as a Cyberdyne Systems Model 101. In Terminator 2: Judgment Day, the same is displayed inside the Terminator while he reboots. In Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines the Terminator refer itself as a T-101. While the T2 Extreme Edition DVD refer it as series 800 or a T-800, the Terminator 3: Rise of the Machine's DVD extras refer to it as 850 series Model 101, T-850 and a T-101. Series 800 From Terminator Wiki (Redirected from Series T-800 For other types and sub-models based on Series 800, see Series 8xx The Series 800 is a type of terminator mass produced by Skynet. Individual terminators within the series are often referred to as T-800's. The T-800 was Skynet's first cybernetic organism, with living tissue over a hyperalloy endoskeleton. This made it Skynet's first successful Infiltrator unit, capable of infiltrating the human Resistance. In the original timeline Skynet itself designed and began production of the Series 800 in 2026, due to the ease with which the Resistance could identify the Skynet designed Series 600 with its rubber skin. In this original timeline, the last design created by Cyberdyne Systems itself, was the Series 70. The Series 800 was later supplanted by the Series 1000 . In one alternate future, Cyber Research Systems used information obtained from past time loops to begin the 800 design before a 2004 Judgment Day, accelerating Skynet's own designs, and culminating eventually in the T-X Terminators. In yet another alternate future, Judgment Day was delayed to 2011, but post-apocalypse events were even more accelerated resulting in designs more advanced than the Series 800 in use by 2027. The 800 series is the first in a line of Series 8xx Infiltrator terminators, all of which used living tissue over metallic endoskeletons. Known Terminators Serial number Each terminator does also have a unique alphanumeric serial number. It contains four or more letters, which the first and last position is usually an alphabetic letter and the middle positions are numbers. The last letter is separated from the other letters with a dot. These serial numbers are revealed in some comic series.. The Series 800 combat chassis when not intended for infiltrator work and fielded without an organic infiltration coating is more properly identified as a humanoid hunter-killer (HK) and are designated with a shorter 4 character alpha numeric code. This coding was revealed in some comic series. * If all 4 characters are available to be used as either numbers and letters, and the designations of any destroyed HKs are recycled into the system for reuse, that gives Skynet an available pool of 1,679,616 actively designated units at any one time for each HK series. More than enough for humanity's post Judgment Day population. Technical data The Series 800 consist of various important parts: * CPU - The T-800 contains a Neural Net Processor CPU, or "learning computer" which is contained within the endoskeleton's skull and is protected by inertial shock dampers. The CPU, developed by Cyberdyne Systems, is one of the most powerful microprocessors ever built. As part of its vast internal databases, the T-800 contains detailed files on human anatomy and physiology so as to make it a more efficient killer. * Endoskeleton - The metal endoskeleton of the T-800 is a microprocessor controlled fully armored hyper-alloy combat chassis and is constructed with frictionless bearings in its joints, and a servo-actuated control system. Its limbs are controlled by axial drive motors and clavicular trailing links, allowing the T-800s to maneuver faster than the T-600s, as bursts of speed of up to 22 mph no longer threatened the joint assemblies. The armored frame is capable of withstanding most small arms fire and is able to survive being set on fire with only minimal damage and no degradation of capabilities. There are weak spots however; Kyle Reese was able to blow the first Terminator in half with a pipe bomb by jamming it in between its joints, however the upper half was still functional albeit with severed left arm. Sharp stabbing weapons such as metal pipes could and usually penetrate the endoskeleton armor plate if enough force was behind it. Energy weapons like those mounted on the T-X could penetrate the armor and momentarily disable the T-800. Enough force could permanently dislocate limbs and disrupt the internal frame. * Cyberdyne System Model - Is referred as the mould around the endoskeleton. Living tissue grown specially for the T-800's consists of flesh, skin, hair and blood, and is capable of limited regeneration over time. As this tissue is living it is warm to the touch and hence T-800's will not show up on thermal scanners as being any different from a real human. The biological components are only grafted onto T-800's which are to be used to infiltrate Resistance bases; T-800's which are deployed straight onto the battlefield usually do not possess biological components. Abilities As part of our scientific progression, mankind has unraveled the human genome and we were able to identify the genes which control cell life-span and degradation. Using this information, stored within its vast databases, Skynet has been able to eliminate these unwanted genes from cells prior to industrially growing biological components for the T-800's. This means that the skin and muscles of the T-800's, unlike the human equivalents, do not wear down, degrade or necrotize over relatively short periods of time. It also means that the T-800's biological components will not rot over long periods of time, and do not require a flow of nutrients or anti-bodies. However, if a T-800 is left on the battlefield for too great a period, its biological components will begin to rot, and its cover will be blown. Though it does not need nutrient or blood flow, the T-800 has a circulatory system which is controlled by a tiny pneumatic pump which maintains a constant pressure. This allows the T-800 to bleed convincingly when wounded. However, the living tissue of the T-800's is still prone to necrotizing after a period. Therefore, when not in active service, flesh covered T-800's are stored in special racks in a cryogenic vault to preserve the flesh from deteriorating. These "Rogue" T-800's have achieved this level of autonomously by having their CPU set to "read-and-write" shortly after factory production. The CPU can be manually switched (this ensures that the switch is not activated by a virus or programming glitch) from "read-only" to "read-and-write," enabling it to learn from its contact with humans, thus allowing it to conceal itself more effectively. The T-800 is capable of running internal systems checks; calculating the distance of objects relative to itself; making detailed kinetic studies of trajectories; sampling and analyzing the atmosphere, weather patterns and wind velocity; analyzing human emotional states (in order to assess possible hostility); analyzing body language and direction of muscle contraction; calculating the force of gravity; analyzing texture and temperature of materials; and sensing radar scans. It is fitted with an internal chronometer. In order to keep track of its battle units, Cyberdyne Systems had given each one a Series number. The Series number refers to the type of internal structure or chassis (endoskeleton). However, the 800 Series also has different configurations of living tissue, each one giving it the appearance of a different person. The physical appearance of the living tissue (which was initially based on photographic records from Skynet's databases and laser scans of human soldiers) is therefore also given a Model number. The inert T-800's are housed within a large vault-like cold-storage room. Massive doors of steel, equipped with electronic locking bolts bar the entrance to this facility. The T-800's hang in steel racks from tracks mounted in the ceiling. Hundreds of flesh covered T-800's are stored like this. They are arranged in rows of ten, where each of the bodies within each row are absolutely identical (each of the same Model). Each body hangs in its own cryogenic "hybermatrix." This cryogenic storage and the vacuum sealed room ensures that the T-800's flesh will not decay or necrotize from exposure to warm, oxygenated air that may contain pathogens. The living tissue makes it very difficult for humans to identify T-800's. A significant number of these Infiltration units have therefore been able to breach our defenses and slaughter Resistance fighters. However, trained "sniffer" dogs posted at checkpoints are effective at detecting this new threat. T-800's being deployed straight onto the battlefield as soldiers do not need a disguise and so do not receive a biological covering. These units therefore do not need to be stored in the Cryogenic Chambers, and are stored in a huge rack covered chamber when not needed. A set of massive robotic manipulator arms stationed in the center of the chamber selects battle units when they are to be used in service. Skynet controls its battle units using direct link command. This operating mode is known as "Hive," where the battle units are hooked directly into Skynet and share a collective conscious. However, there are hundreds of autonomous Terminators not under Skynet's direct control. This is the second form of operating mode and is known as "Rogue." In this mode, battle units are independent of Skynet but are programmed to return and download information. The 800 Series is also equipped with vocals which enable it to replicate any human speech pattern of which it has heard an adequate specimen. It does this by recording and storing syllables of the subjects' voices, which it then replays and uses to digitally synthesize their speech patterns. The T-800's auditory sensors are located upon either side of its head, where human ears would be. One ear records the full un-equalized range of external sounds, while the other can automatically filter signals to within a narrow range for a specific auditory signal. The T-800's optical sensors can sample an extended range of visible frequencies, including infrared (which can allow it to see heated bodies behind walls). This information is then displayed on a 40,000 bit digitized display. Concussion-proof lenses protect the T-800's eyes, which are capable of moving independently. When using both eyes to track two different targets moving in different directions, depth perception is created artificially by creating a computer-generated off-angle ghost image. The T-800 is capable of motion tracking, search modes, facial identification and recognition and has extensive vision enhancement capabilities including long range "zoom" (the T-800 can snap-magnify an image by around x15), motion analysis and "night vision." The T-800’s visual systems (at least) appear to be programmed in COBOL and 6502 assembly (specifically Apple +2 assembly). The T-800’s do not feel pain and they do not have nerves, but they can sense injuries. We believe that the T-800 can do this through the use of impact sensors or as part of the overall sensor "sphere" that the unit generates, approximately akin to counter battery radar. There may be various impact sensors that record localized vibrations in the armor shell and, by extrapolation, "sense" where the damage in the T-800's living tissue is. This data then allows the T-800 to conduct low-complexity self repairs. If disabled, the T-800 is able to re-route its systems to a secondary, alternate power source, thus bypassing any severed connections, damaged circuits or internal impairment. The 800 Series also has redundant backup hydraulic systems. Therefore it is imperative that Resistance members determine that any T-800’s are totally incapacitated. Enhancements Skynet if need be could add new equipment and programs not standard in the T-800s. Ocular Implant: Retinal Lasers are difficult to produce, these implants are mainly found in Terminators with high profile targets. The destructive power of the Lasers is comparable to the Plasma rifles used by Skynet but if it is fired by an Infiltrating Terminator it will permanently burn the tissue of the visual sensors, this aspect does not effect the T-831 or other Terminators that are not covered in organic tissue. * The Terminator Collectible Card Game Combat Combat situations notwithstanding, the T-800 has a functional period of 120 years on one power cell. This small compact nuclear-energy Iridium cell is located approximately where a human's heart would be and is shielded in a case-hardened subassembly inside the triple armored hyperalloy torso.  The T-800 is, however, also capable of a conservation, or economy, mode. It does this by collecting and storing excess energy in compact energy sinks. In this mode, power is cut to 40% of nominal function, optical systems are switched to infrared only, and motivation units lose 40% hydraulic pressure as pumps slow. In this state the T-800's power cell can last almost indefinitely.  The T-800 is generally issued with a Westinghouse M-27 Phased Plasma Battle Rifle in the 40 watt range or General Dynamics RBS-80 Phased Plasma Pulse Gun, however it is programmed to be able to use all military documented weaponry. The 800 Series is, for example, extremely efficient in the use of the .45 longslide automatic, the model 1887 Winchester level-action shotgun, the Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun, the Heckler & Koch MP-5s, the M-79 grenade launcher, the General Electric minigun, and the M-134/GAU-2b.  Quotes Kyle Reese: The 600 series had rubber skin. We spotted them easy, but these are new. They look human - sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. I had to wait till he moved on you before I could zero him. The Terminator
REAL6 on Jul 17, 2008
I read about this yester day and saw nothing of him in the trailer, but he's a good chioce, And Bales voice for this role sounds nothing like Wayne, Dieter Dangler from Rescue Dawn, Reznik from the Machinest, or other film impressive, to me the guys Welsh. And he does American accents well enough to pass for one.
Xerxex on Jul 17, 2008
that picture looks almost gayer than arnold.
me on Jul 17, 2008
REAL6....um.....TMI the link would have been just fine
TCox on Jul 17, 2008
Longest post in fs.net history, I'm sure
Keith on Jul 17, 2008
And later, he want to be governator. I thaugt josh brolin will be the terminator.
paulina on Jul 18, 2008
Richard, thats the first thing I thought, steriod pumping Marky Mark. And Real6... that was Real lame! Sorry but, SYSTEM OVERLOAD CANNOT COMPUTE SELF DESTRUCT HAS COMMENCED!
Dave V. on Jul 18, 2008
TRIPLE H OR BATISTA!!!!
Neal on Jul 18, 2008
THIS GUY IS FREAKIN AWESOME! I'VE MET HIM BEFORE ONCE AT THE MR. OLYMPIA EXPO AND HE IS SUCH A DOWN TO EARTH GUY!!! I THINK ITS GREAT THAT HE IS FILLING IN FOR ARNIE! AND WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT "HIS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE"???!!!!!!!!!! YOU TAKE US TO HIS IMDB LINK AND HE'S BEEN DOING GREAT SINCE MOVING HERE! LET'S SEE YOUR RESUME BUDDY BEFORE YOU BASH OTHERS! ROLANDS GONNA KICK ASS IN THIS ONE, YOU WATCH AND SEE! GOOD CHOICE McG!!
JAKE on Jul 18, 2008
I'd have said that you can tell the Terminator franchiese is being run into the ground when they get a look-alike to play The Terminator, but it was already throroughly run into the ground with the comics, not to mention T3, not to mention the TV series. Every new incarnation do nothing but cheapen the original story, which was James Cameron's two movies, and every new incarnation is consistently a worse product than the last, and apparently they will not stop, ever, until every fan is dead. Seriously, I feel like they're trying to kill me. Why do they keep making horrible Terminator movies? Why do you keep watching them? I'm gonna have to work hard to ignore this mess. 🙁
Amake on Jul 18, 2008
Jake reeaallyyy likes Roland you all, so be nice.
Dave V. on Jul 19, 2008
If they can get him to look like Arnie, the rumours might be true that Arnie will be doing a voice over....
Steve on Aug 27, 2008
i have super fight for roland
selva on Nov 4, 2009
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