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Jen, what do you mean "for once?" That is all there seems to be any more is male frontal nudity on stage, in movies, and seemingly every show on HBO. Where is the female frontal nudity ????? Maybe if movies and cable were showing the labia as often as the male gentials maybe you would feel different about breasts counting. I am not opposed to equal amounts of both but please let it be equal. And Jen, if you don't mind me asking, since women have for the longest time wanted equally, and rightly so, are females still concerned about their being an equal amount of female nudity as well. Or, since there is much more male frontal nudity than female frontal nudity, have females abandoned their conviction of equality ? I would hope not. However, I don't seem to hear much about females wanting a change. Thanks for your time Jen.

I would like Tim to make that list too, because until recently I don't recall much male nudity. I'd say this is one way of making things equal; one part of women are exposed and now one part of men are too. Why should it matter which part? I think the only reason some may think breasts do not count is because movies showing them have been around for a long time. For many, they are just seen as normal movie scenes. I'm sure that at the beginning this was a huge deal too, just like the male frontals are now. Some women feel insecure, uncomfortable, etc... with those scenes, and maybe now men will understand why. Thanks Pablo -Jen

Sorry, Pablo and Jen, almost forgot about your list. First, let me say that I agree that over the years there has ben more female nudity than male nudity. However, for the longest time movies were showing women's breats and guy's bare behinds. However, I am talkng about frontal nudity in these days. As for a list, all you need to do is type in male frontal nudity in movies and plays and you will see the great abundance of shows. As for cable, I will name a few. First there is "Oz" in which almost every show there were male gentials seen and even one show where a man was urinating. (Not for me and no need for equality by women in that regards. In fact, the entire thing isn't needed as far as I am concerned.) Then there is "Rome." They had several shows with male gentials and one which showed a woman's pubic hair. Sorry, but public hair and gentials are not equal in my opinion. Let's not forget about "Queer as Folk" and "Tell me You Love Me." And I guess my latest disappointment was in the documentary about John Adams. How pathetic !!!!! There are more but that's all presently recall. Also, what about only male nudity in cartoons ???? OK, lol, let's not even go there for now. Now Pablo and Jen let me give a challenge. What movies or shows exhibit women's gentials in mainstream movies or on an HBO series ?

Female nudity has been over played in movies since the 1960s, go see walk hard, american pie, or the bank job, the shining has full frontal female nudity as well. Almost all female nudity in movies is gratuitous nudity, it is just meant to attract men (and sometimes women) to make money, and all this nudity does, is continue to supress women's social status below men's, we will continued to be regarded as simply sexual objects and therefore treated differently then men until this over-objectification of women ends or there is an equall balance of it between men and women. Women only make 77 cents, on average for every dollar a man makes, so unless you are willing to make up the difference I would quit your complaining about having to see another human being with the same genitalia as you. P.S. Your comment is also offensive to homosexuals, it assumes that you have to be a homosexual to see movies like this and it also assumes that that is all they are interested in.

P.S. Haley: As far as complaining, look who is calling the kettle black. You are complaining about the work force. And, would you enjoy seeing women's genitals on screen without an equal amount of male genitals ????? As far as the homosexuals, I have made no comment about them at all.

This is one of the dumbest arguments Ive ever seen. If you wanna see labia for the sake of labia then go watch porn. No one finds a shot of a vagina shocking or funny. Men just find it sexually exiting. This is stupid. Put it in perspective. Its a comedy. Vaginas arent very funny because men dont laugh when they see one. they leer. I'm a man.

Alex, I know there is plenty of female nudity in porno. My point is there is not any female genitals exposed in mainstream movies. plays, or on new HBO series. My question is why ??????? Why are we flooded with all this male frontal nudity without and equal amount of female nudity ?

Because nowadays it is ok to bash and exploit white men. We have no voice. Well I guess this whole nudity issue regarding the different treatment of men's and women's genitals is completely representative of how men and women are treated differently by today's society regarding lots of issues. And women completely ignore the differences when it suits them, but are quick to highlight equality issues which DO affect them. Note that I happened to agree with some of the posters when they pointed out that programmes with vaginas had been shown. That was a fact and I don't argue with facts. Over the past 5 or so years we have endured a male / female genitalia ratio of about 150:1 in movies and on tv. And THAT smacks of blatant in your face sexism that makes a statement to everyone that we should be more respectful of women's private parts but that it acceptable to strip men of their dignity and leave them with nothing. I guess we are living through an era where 'anything goes' as far as the male is concerned, but the feminists ignore these things in a blissfully ignorant way, completely unaware that they are setting the standards for how the female will be depicted and viewed in our next generation. I think that TV is definitely at least partly to blame for drumming negative ideas into the minds of the young and portraying the sexes in different ways. I think we should straighten up the sexist issues and bring the sexes into line. Men and women are equal. They feel the same pain, both physically and emotionally. They both work hard bringing up their children and serving the community. They need each other, and yet there has been a bitter hatred brewing amongst feminists who have not yet finished with their man-bashing agenda. Instead of being happy with what they have, they rant on about the fact that they want the same salary as a man (who doesn't have a chance in hell of staying at home to look after the kids in the vast majority of cases) and yet still want to have babies while getting to stay at home (possibly working part time) for months and years on end looking after them while they grow up. Yet the feminists who came up with this false statistics fail to point out that the 77 cents women earn on the dollar take into account much more missed time for sick days, maternity leave and other factors. The fail to mention the study showed women work LESS and thus men earn more money per year than a woman. The media constantly drum it into everyone's heads that women are having a bad time and that there are loads of sexist issues which need addressing on behalf of women while male bashing is seen as funny and cool yet say one thing about a woman and it makes headlines. How else can you explain awarding 11 million dollars to the woman who accused Isiah Thomas of a sexual harassment. Would a man receive 11 million for unwanted sexual advances. Not a chance, in fact he would be laughed at if he sued a woman for that. Honestly, for every one valid point a feminist raises, I can think of 50 counter-arguments. It's just that people are so overwhelmed by TV and media indoctrination they fail to see the true picture of what is unfolding. I would like to see some program makers start focusing on what I believe is a gaping hole in the market. We've seen virtually every aspect of feminist support broadcast on TV, radio and general media. I have rarely heard the voice of male groups who can see things from a different perspective. The program would have an abundance of material from which it could choose, from nudity through health support, suicide and education and on to shocking facts completely overlooked by the public at present. They could also focus on the general depiction of men in the media eg. adverts and soaps and highlight some clear facts regarding domestic violence and how one-sided the messages are conveyed to the public. We have seen program based on animal cruelty, racism, female equality, concerns for children, the aged, the disabled.... etc. etc. But as yet there has been virtually no recognition amongst program makers regarding the concerns surrounding your average white male. It's about time we had a few and women stopped the hatred and vendettas toward males.

Alex, I am with you. Maybe the time has come for men to stand up and refuse to be put to this double standard. It seems very interesting to me that all of these women who have cried over the years for equality are at this point no where to be found in a man's case for equality. If you know of any group or organization that men can start to contact and express their opinion I would like to know. Thanks.

I agree with the fact that female frontal nudity is far and few in mainstream movies, especially in this day and age. Very rarely do you hear as often the slang words of female anatomy compared to male anatomy even on regular T.V. shows. Here something to think about....years ago the female frontal nudity only consisted of the breasts. Later it became a few quick peeks at the full frontal female body. Mind you with hair on the female genitals which act as a PATCH as far as I am concered. Now that we have entered into the 21st century we STILL see this same patch (hair) on the female genitals in mainstream movies. Again a patch...what are you looking at. Men do not have this advantage so you see the real deal flesh. My point is and I speak from experience that many if not over 85% + of women shave their vulva and leave a small patch (mohawk) at the top of the pubic bone. They do this not only for the fad of the times but for a cleaner smoother and non-smelling reason. YET in any mainstream movie I have yet to see a full frontal let alone close up (compared to what they show on male frontal nudity today on mainstream) of a shaved meaty vagina. God let alone what would happen if a well endowed women had a large clitoris protruding between her vulva for all viewers to see if even a mere millisecond! The women of this country would go ballistic! But its ok for all the male frontal cloe-up huh!!?? I am sorry I am not a breat man they do nothing for me and even in movies to me it's minor nothing compared to when the lower genitals are exposed. You can very rarely today even see a female buttocks for a millisecond in mainstream movies anymore. The men of this country should complain and cry and boycott this overly amount of male nudity in the movies to the Board that passes and ok's what can be seen in a movie before it is released. I am sure many women in the past have complained and maybe this is why the lack of female frontal nudity close up does not happen as often. Unless the producers of these movies today are swinging the other way gay maybe. My point. Love to see a 3 or 4 second scene in a movie where a well endowed woman unzips her pants and pulls out her 3 inch clitoris to show the viewers and puts it back in like the male scene in Boogie Night. I'll bet holy hell would take place with the female community on that! But its ok the other way with a male doing it isn't? Where the appalling voices from females on this. You want your cake and eat to, or can I say you want your "pie" and eat it too. Then there's the masterbation scenes. Jeeze let me tell you something every women I have met does it and in the movies it always the guys they depict. Like women are goody goodies. Bunch a bull. If they do show it for a female it's in a romantic scene bathtub with 6 foot bubbles in the tub. Bunch of bull. I know as a male I'm tired of being degraded in the mainstream movies. Don

I agree with you Don. I would also like to make my voice heard on this issue with those that control things. It has been very interesting that not one female, in this forum, has come forth in support of the male cause.

Thanks Sharon, but no, I am not aware of the movie.

One last thing, any other guys up for a boycott of this movie (not that any guy would want to see this movie anyway)? Put the word out as to why.

It's only going to get much, much worse because now these films have set a precedence and we will unfortunately be seeing much more male full frontal nudity. We need to write the studios and the MPAA and let them know how we feel and why this is blatant inequality despite the illogical arguments of women. Speaking about slang terms for male genitals being allowed on broadcast, did you know that the executives at ABC wouldn't even allow Grey's Anatomy to use the word vagina because they feared a backlash from women's groups. Men are having everything taken from them and we have no voice. We are losing jobs because of affirmative action, we are losing our dignity, and women have absolutely no respect for men unless men make more money than them and then they have a financial use for us. Our young boys are the ones who are going to really suffer as it is just going to get worse. I was on a site called the Huffington post and there was a vulgar article from a women who wrote about this movie and that it is about time men showed everything because women have always showed their breasts, only she used extremely vulgar terms for male genitals throughout her article. People who agreed with her were able to comment with the same vulgarity. However, my comment was denied by the site because I disagreed with her and used 1 slang term ( The P word) for the female genitals. They said I used foul language, but it was perfectly ok for everyone else, including the author of the article, as long as you used vulgar language for the male genitals. That is so typical of the way women act these days. Men with no spine will learn the hard way.

I think there are alot more of us out there that feel like you do. I was with my wife's 18 year old daughter when I went to watch Hostel II. I did not study up on the movie ahead of time as I should have. They not only show a nude male model with full frontal and proceed to show only a portion of the female model's breast, the actress graphically cuts off a man's penis (completely shown on screen in every detail) because he used the C word. They glorified it as he screamed in agony with blood spurting everywhere as she tossed his penis into the dogs mouth. Believe it or not, the reviews were fair to good for this movie, actually better then movies like Norbit. I was appalled, as should be every woman and man out there. I would never condone or support a movie that mutilates a woman like this and glorifies it on screen. My daughter's 10 year old friend boasted of watching this movie. There would be public outrage if this type of mutilation was done to women's genitals (clit) in such grusome detail on the mainscreen and then given a 3/5 stars by critics such as Elizabeth Weitzman of New York Daily News (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hostel_2/?critic=creamcrop). They followed this movie up with the movie Teeth with lots of male frontal nudity prior to the lady's vagina (which they refused to show even though this was the center of the movie)removing their genitals. Lisa Swartzbaum of Entertainment Weekly also gave it a B+ (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20172133,00.html). Talk about a double standard. What actually constitutes NC17 anymore. It is R rated if the penis is shown and mutilated in every detail but NC 17 if a real vagina is shown. I was reading a review about Harold and Kumar opening this weekend. Apparently there is frontal male nudity in this movie also, not just female. Neil Patrick Harris who plays in the movie made the following quote: "… You’re not allowed to show true vagina. But you can show a fake vagina on top of a true vagina- http://www.sacurrent.com/film/story.asp?id=68582 . Apparently this is how they avoided the NC17 rating. I highly doubt they put a fake penis on Segel in Forgetting Sarah Marshall nor did they edit the actual slap of his penis against his hips. There have been two mainstrem movies that apparently showed a close up of a true vagina (Basic Instict (possibly) and Babel). Maybe you can find more but I also challenge all of the female critics out there to make a list of films that actually show labia and not hair (and no Knocked up doesn't count as it was a prosthetic vagina also). Women just as well as men can rent porn if they want to see a penis, or, get the playboy channel as it has alot of penis on it also. However, our children are able to get into these movie theaters and watch these movies, especially if they work there or have someone buy them the tickets and it is hard as a parent to control this. This male hatred and double standard is only going to breed anger in boys that are growing up now and will not benefit our society. I still remember how angry I was when I first saw Porkys 2 in the early 80s and it was chuck full of full frontal male nudity and no female frontal (except breast if you actually call that nudity which most women do). Even the original Porky's was balanced with male frontal and some female frontal (pubic hair) nudity. And yes, I did not finish watching John Adams because of the frontal nude shot of the guy that they proceeded to tar and feather in all of his naked agony. It was rated TV14 of all things. I let my 9 year old daughter watch it with me because once again because I thought it would be educational. I did not expect this type of graphic nudity and utter disrespect of men from a TV-14 rating, but afterall it was HBO. She was horrified and so I have dumped HBO and will stick with Showtime just as I refuse to watch Nip and Tuck and FX at that. My Money is just as powerful as anyone elses and if enough people would unite and boycott these movies, it would stop. I am sure every woman reading this is appalled that men would react like this. But if this country is to make it, we have got to unite. I read a blog by a female that said she would not go to a movie with her boyfriend that showed female nudity because it made her uncomfortable. Yet she was completely ok with going to see Sarah Marshall with him. Talk about double standard. If you feel uncomfortable about female nudity, what makes you think we don't also feel uncomfortable with the penis flapping all over the screen knowing that is meant to punish men, not just shock women. As a heterosexual male, I love the female form and am not a big fan of seeing nude men but don't mind it if there are nude women also. Women are pleasing to look at and not just from a sexual standpoint. Women are beautiful. I also like watching movies with my wife when they are balanced as it is arousing, not angering. Unfortunately it looks as though Sarah Marshall will make money ($17 Million pulled in this weekend with a cost of $30 million to make). However, boycott the upcoming Muppet movie as it is made by the same director (Judd Apatow) who has no business making this kind of family movie after Sarah Marshall. Also, boycott Segel and Eli Roth (produced Hostel2) . Ironically, I actually check out every movie prior to seeing it at Kids In Mind Movie Ratings as it has some of the best reviews of movies concerning nudity (http://www.kids-in-mind.com/), violence and profanity. If it has male full frontal nudity, I boycott it. I don't mind those that have equal distribution of male and female nudity and so I will probobly go see Harold and Kumar just to support this even knowing that the vagina shot is fake Finally, I do not care if anyone responds to my opinion as it is that, AN OPINION and I am allowed to have it.

Alex Bliington: Since you write columns on movies isn't it about time that someone writes a column on the double standard to men which is now present in movies, plays, cartoons, and HBO ? I believe you will find many men who will agree with such and some women who truly believe in equality. Yes, men are looking for equality in nudity. They want to see as much female frontal nudity as male frontal nudity. Maybe someone responsible for programming will start to listen and begin to care. However, we need a starting place. Thanks

Myth #1: In violent heterosexual relationships, the aggressor is almost always the man, and the victim is almost always the woman. Serious research on domestic violence overwhelmingly asserts that domestic assault is committed by both men and women and that, by using weapons and the element of surprise, women are abusing their male partners as often as vice versa. Only about 1/4 of violent heterosexual relationships fit the feminist "man/aggressor, woman/victim" model--about the same percentage as fit the "woman/aggressor, man/victim" model. Roughly half of all violent heterosexual relationships are mutually abusive, and domestic violence rates between men and women are comparable from small violence to serious violence, including murder. The mutual nature of domestic violence has been attested to in voluminous research. For example, veteran domestic violence researchers Richard Gelles, Murray Straus, and Susan Steinmetz, who were once hailed by the women's movement for their pioneering work on violence against women, were initially surprised to find equal levels of male and female violence. Since then their studies have confirmed it repeatedly. Cal State Long Beach professor Martin Fiebert compiled and summarized 117 different studies with over 72,000 respondents which found that women initiated domestic violence as often as or more often than men. Studies conducted by the Family Research Laboratory at the University of New Hampshire in 1975, 1985, and 1992 found that abuse rates were equal between husbands and wives and that abuse of wives by husbands is decreasing, while abuse of husbands by wives is increasing. Studies by researchers R.I. McNeeley and Coramae Richey Mann show that women are much more likely than men to use weapons and the element of surprise. These weapons often include guns, knives, boiling water, bricks, fireplace pokers and baseball bats. Myth # 2: When women are violent, it is usually in self-defense. As a general rule, neither men's nor women's violence is usually committed in self-defense. According to Straus, for example, roughly 10 percent of women and 15 percent of men perpetuate partner abuse in self-defense. Dr. David Fontes, author of Violent Touch: Breaking Through the Stereotype, and the director of Stop Abuse for Everyone (SAFE), has also found that only a small percentage of female abusers are acting in self-defense. Myth #3: Domestic violence is committed almost entirely by men, and lesbian relationships are gentler and provide women a refuge from male patriarchal dominance and violence. Actually, the evidence is virtually undisputed that domestic violence is at least as common in lesbian relationships as it is in heterosexual ones. For example, a 1997 survey of 1,099 lesbians found that 52% of the respondents had been abused by a female lover or partner and that 30% admitted having abused a female lover or partner. Of those who had been victims of abuse, more than half (51.5%) reported that they also had been abusive toward their partners. According to St. Joseph's University sociology professor Claire Renzetti, lesbian batterers "display a terrifying ingenuity in their selection of abuse tactics, frequently tailoring the abuse to the specific vulnerabilities of their partners" (Violent Betrayal: Partner Abuse in Lesbian Relationships). To their credit, even the UCLA Clothesline Project, whose website and public materials contain scores of discredited lies about men and domestic violence, cites Renzetti's research findings that "Violence in gay/lesbian relationships occur at about the same frequency as violence in heterosexual relationships." Over the past 30 years feminists have often played an admirable role in pushing for societal acceptance for gays and lesbians. However, feminists have shamefully turned their backs on battered lesbians, and have stifled the attempts of activists to address lesbian domestic violence. Myth #4: Mothers are children's "first line of defense" against child abuse. In reality it is mothers, not fathers, who commit the overwhelming majority of child abuse, neglect, and parental murder. According to the US Department of Justice, 70% of confirmed cases of child abuse and 65% of parental murders of children are committed by mothers, not fathers. According to the US Department of Health and Human Services, adjusting for the greater number of single mothers, a custodial mother is five times as likely to murder her own children as a custodial father is. A study of confirmed child abuse cases published in the Journal of Child Abuse and Neglect found that mothers abuse their children two and a half times as often as fathers. The Third National Incidence Study of Child Abuse and Neglect (1996) found that children are 88% more likely to be seriously injured from abuse or neglect by their mothers than by their fathers. Twenty-five years ago feminists played a heroic role in advocating for abused women and publicizing the despicable crime of wife-beating. Today, unfortunately, their refusal to acknowledge violence by women stands in the way of eliminating domestic violence for everyone--not only women, but men and children as well. This is what men have to deal with from feminists today and why women hat men so much. The feminists have ruined male-female relationships.

I thought this article was interesting, if not off point a little: The feminist movement was an ideal platform on which to launch such attacks against men. These attacks began in earnest in the 1970`s and the women's movement, many men unwittingly provided the means, money and platform those with darker motives needed. A profound hatred of men was sown into women under cover of an idea of male patriarchy ruining their lives. Men suddenly and unexpectedly found themselves reeling from attacks on all sides. Attacks like those reproduced below became common place and engendered in the men who read them a sense of profoundly deep shock and shame. "I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it." -- Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan "All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French, Author, "The Women's Room" "I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, MS. Magazine Editor "Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin "And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual [male ED], it may be mainly a quantitative difference." -- Susan Griffin "Rape: The All-American Crime" "The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" [For anti feminist lead anti revolutionary. ED] -- Ti-Grace Atkinson "Amazon Odyssey" (p. 86) By endless statements such as these many men were taught to hate themselves and many women were taught to hate men. Homosexuality became something to be promoted and heterosexuality became something to be afraid of. Single motherhood was elevated to the status of desirability. Fathers were systematically removed from contact with their children. Divorce was made so easy it could be entered into for the most minor of family disagreements. Religious values were undermined. Pornography was pumped into millions of homes through the mediums of television and film. False statistics on rape, sexual abuse, domestic violence and countless other anti male issues were force fed to a blind media hungry for sensationalistic stories. [See the great Super bowl Sunday Scam. ED. Here is the link: http://www.batteredmen.com/suprmyth.htm The result of this brainwashing has been to destroy the family. Also, it has so demoralized the male that few men feel able to fight back and many more feel it would be "anti woman" to fight back. Men have been the target of this "defamation" for forty years and very effective it has been too! It is time for men to shake off the false guilt laid upon them and to remember that without our efforts, our genius, our organizational skills, our sweat and our blood there would be no civilization at all. As men we have much to be proud of. As men, very few of us have woken in the morning with the intention of oppressing anyone, let alone women. As men, we have laid down our lives in countless wars to protect what the communist inspired radical feminist movement claim we have oppressed. As men we have raised our sons to take care of women and not brutalize them. As men we have sacrificed our lives by remaining on sinking vessels at sea so that women and children could flee to safety in the lifeboats. As men, we are a noble, proud, and fierce defender of the family and all we love and hold dear. Yet, as men, we are seeing our families destroyed by left wing politicians and radical feminist propaganda that is twisting our values, self beliefs and those of our female wives and partners into a parody of the truth. Our children are suffering as a result. It is time to remember those positive attributes of our manhood, shake off the guilt of 40 years of brainwashing, stand up, fight back and be men! Now you know why the men's movement across the world are so angry. Don't just accept everything the government controlled press say to you. Think for yourself!

Christy, when there is an injustice you need to make time so people become aware.

Women have absolutely NO logic!

I agree with Tim, Alex, and the other men who have commented here. I'm also disgusted by the sexist double-standard when it comes to showing female nudity and appalled at the audacity of feminists who try equate breasts with penises. Showing a breast is NOT equivelant to showing a penis. If one is going to make comparisons of nudity for "equality" purposes, then we must compare apples to apples. Breasts, like buttocks, are non-genital nudity. There is a big difference between showing non-genital nudity and genital nudity. Non-genital nudity is clearly understood by society to be less extreme and less explicit than genital nudity. In fact, breasts are not even deemed to be nudity in many European countries and parts of Canada; women are allowed to go topless on the beach or in public parks. Non-genital nudity is far less revealing and offensive than genital nudity. In the past, that's about all you could see of either gender in mainstream film. You could see a man's bare ass or a woman's bare breasts; it was equal. For every instance where some dumb feminist cries about a woman's breasts being shown, I can point out an instance of a man's bare buttocks being revealed. Unfortunately, the feminists have big mouths and constantly complain and many of them are journalists. They deemed female nudity to be "exploitaive" and politically incorrect. Of course, they never complained about the male nudity. Instead, these hypocrites applauded frontal male nudity and claim that this is some sort of victory for "equality". Nothing could be further from the truth. The only equivelant of male frontal nudity, where the entire genitalia is revealed (pubic hair, penis, and testicles) would be female nudity where the woman has her legs apart so her entire genitalia can be seen. (pubic hair , clitoris, and vulva) But of course we never get to see that in any mainstream film or cable telivision series. Why not? Why the double-standard? How come the entire male anatomy can be shown on mainstream television or movies, but female genitalia is always kept hidden and relegated only to porn? That's where the REAL inequality is. So things are already completely unfair and slanted against men and yet still these dumb feminists complain and make incorrect and irrational comparisons. It would be the same as showing a close-up of a woman's vagina in a PG-13 rated movie and us men saying, " It's about time. They have been showing men's bare bottoms in PG-13 rated movies for years. They need to make things even by showing a woman's vagina. They should show more women's vaginas in PG-13 movies to make up for the men's bare bottoms that we have had to watch!" Would you women find this fair? Would you see this as "equality"? Would you find it accurate to equate a man's ass to a woman's vagina? Do you ladies feel that showing boobs is the same as showing a woman's vagina or anus? Then how can you equate breasts to a man's penis? Such is the "logic" of women. I'm all for fairness. I'm okay with filmakers showing a man's bare ass just as often as a woman's non-genital nudity. By the same token then, filmakers should be just as willing to show a woman's vagina (not just pubic hair) or anus as they are willing to show men's testicles and penises. After all, fair is fair, right ladies? I am going to write a letter to the MPAA and question them as to their apparent double-standard when it comes to allowing full genitalia to be shown. I wonder why the genitalia of one gender can be fully revealed in mainstream film and be given an R rating, but not of the other. We men have been pushed around long enough by the feminist scum. It is time to stand up and start defending our rights and demanding REAL EQUALITY, not the unilateral feminist version of "equality".

I can think of plenty of movies where female pubic hair was on display in 70s n 80s R movies and partially on display in PG movies of the same period. While during this same era, male nudity of the penile variety was scarce (which was fine by me). However, this is a technical discussion (not of personal preference), and I do see why today's R rated films don't show female vagina's anymore; which is all due to the 'wax me till I look like a kid' fad. For a rated R film to show a women 'spead eagle', or even her shaved vulva is impossible. Consider something, even soft X films on playboy don't show a women 'spread eagle'. Yes, the days of lines like "We Got Bush" (Revenge of the Nerds 1984) are over, and sad to say (for me as a child of the 70s-80s era) as I relish a woman in all her full bloom (womanly) beauty. Today we see bleached, booby ballooned (surgically), and cleanly hairless barbies; wow, they all look sooooo similar......where's the....diversity....or is uniformity now the norm? Sorry for the rant. BTW, why are any of these guys freakin so over a dick in a movie? Hasnt any of you men been in a P.E. class where us guys (unfortunately) don't get the private shower privileges that girls had in Junior and High School. Just like in gym showers, just don't look and it makes it more endurable.

I agree with all the other men on here! It pisses me off that women are so stupid as to compare a topless woman (which only shows NON-GENITAL nudity) to a frontally nude man (which shows total GENITAL nudity). How come women are so incredibly stupid and illogical? There is a huge double-standard not only with the type of nudity being shown, but how it is rated. The REAL double standard when it comes to how the MPAA rates film nudity. Feminists incorrectly compare female frontal nudity to male frontal nudity and called for more male frontal nudity. The comparison is incorrect. It's like comparing apples to oranges. When a woman is frontally nude, her genitals cannot be seen. Only her pubic hair, at most, is seen. Her actual genitalia (the clitoris, labia, etc.) CANNOT be seen. But when a man is frontally nude, you see his pubic hair AND his entire genitalia. (penis, testicles, etc.) Thus, frontal male nudity is visually more graphic than frontal female nudity, since it reveals the entire sexual anatomy, and should therefore get a harsher rating. It is like showing a topless man or showing a topless woman. Do these both get the SAME rating? No, they do not. A topless woman is considered more graphic than a topless man, so it gets a harsher rating, even though they are BOTH topless. In the same way, a frontally nude man (which shows FULL genitalia) should get a harsher rating than a frontally nude woman (where the full full genitalia cannot be seen). The dumb feminists, who have called for more frontal male nudity in the name of "equality", don't seem to be able to comprehend this. Maybe we men should be calling for more topless women in G-rated movies in the name of "equality"? Maybe we should call for topless women to be shown on regualr daytime tv just like topless males can be shown? That is feminist "logic" for you. The REAL double-standard with the MPAA is the fact that they allow penises to be shown in R-rated movies but not vaginas. I've seen several movies showing full male genitalia (pubic hair, penis, and testicles) but not a SINGLE mainstream R-rated movie showing full female genitalia, (pubic hair, clitoris, and labia) Think about it. There are dozens of movies that have shown the entire male genitalia, but NONE that have revealed the entire female genitalia. A penis can be passed with an R-rating but a vagina automatically gets an NC-17. That's the real double-standard. Why can the genitalia of one gender be shown but not the other? In Eastern Promises, Viggo does a nude fight scene. His penis and scrotum are visible in several positions while he fights. Now what if this exact scene was repeated but with a female actress? And as the actress rolls around, her legs are apart and the audience gets to see her vagina or anus in different positions. Do you think this would be given the same R-rating? No way! It would immediately be given an NC-17, which is virtual censorship. Or in the movie Walk Hard, there is a graphic close-up of a man's penis. What if that situation was reversed and instead there was a graphic close-up of a woman's vagina? Would that have been given an R-rating? No, it would have been given an NC-17. So the MPAA allows the graphic depiction of the entire male sex organ, but not the entire female sex organ. That is a sexist double-standard! Somebody needs to sue the MPAA for this. This documentary failed to point out this nudity double-standard. If penises can be shown, then vaginas should be shown too. Men, write to the MPAA and demand change! Also, go to fight-the-mpaa-.com. This is a grassroots organization that is pushing to change the MPAA and Hollywood and eliminate the genital-nudity double-standard.

First of all, breasts are the same as genitals. This male nudity trend in mainstream R-rated movies and little or no female genitalia (or an equivalent wouldn't really be from the front, but, while she's laying down...you know what I mean here) is only going to lead less R-rated movie attendance. The fix to this problem is simply to not go to these movies and be forced fed this crap from Hollywood.

i honestly dont remember the last time i seen a movie or show that had a mans genitals exposed but the last movie i went and saw at the movie theatre was rated pg13 and showed many womens breasts. i know men dont think its ok for them to be exposed like that but consider for a second how women feel everytime their are womens breasts exposed on cable tv, the news, and in many movies. think about it this way... it is just as uncomfortable for me to sit through a movie that exposes womens breasts as it is for you to see a mans genitals exposed. womens breasts grow just like a mans penis. i feel degraded and objectified too. many parents take there kids to see pg13 movies because normally the only bad things in it are the language but its getting ridiculous. anything with nudity should be rated r or even better nc17. exposing kids and young adults to both sexes being exposed AT ALL is why so many young teen agers are pregnant and so many kids have multiple partners before they even get to high school. its sad really. im not a prude but all of the sex should only be an adult thing. nudity is nudity. you cant compare men and women because we are not the same. genitals for genitals breasts for breasts. think about your young daughters that are with you when they show a womens breasts and explain to her why thats ok because men show theres all the time so women should be exposed too. i had a younger brother and i remember all of the movies that showed naked women and it was mortifying for me but never did we see something with a naked man. my point is that if it is illegal for women to walk around without shirts on then it shouldnt be shown. the same goes for mens and womens genitals. just quit showing it. thats what porn was made for

In this movie, the showing of male genitalia is supposed to be--somehow (don't ask me) "humorous". It's generally played for a crowd without a good sense of humor. But then again it's not just the showing of the penis that's funny, it's that it's this particular actor in this particular situation showing it. It's also for a kind of shock value, etc. It's a notable reversal anyway. I'm only 26 and i remember a time when it was the showing of penises that got the more restricted rating, not vulvas. I wonder why such a switch would occur in such a short period of time? The pendellum could easily swing back tho..... But did anyone ever consider that the vulva isn't pretty anyway? I mean why would you want to see it, it's pretty ugly. The penis too... genatalia, male or female, aint the most attractive thing in the world.

It is time men stand up for there rights women have every advantage in life they complain about not making as much but thats about it when it comes to taking a police officer exam they have to lower the standards for women when the job is performed the same way for a male or female why should the standards be lowered.In the military women can have longer hair,why?God made men and women different for a reason.When it comes to underage nudity it is always male when is the last time you saw and underage girl nude on camera it happens all the time with boys.