The Dark Knight Currently Ranked #1 on IMDb's Top 250!!
by Alex Billington
July 19, 2008
Not only is The Dark Knight on its way to beating Spider-Man 3's opening weekend box office total, but the public has currently ranked it the #1 movie of all time. Well, unofficially, 23,611 people have ranked the film 9.5 on IMDb. This is very impressive! Actually, this is beyond impressive, this is truly phenomenal. A lot of people believe that IMDb's Top 250 is one of the most accurate lists ranking the greatest films in history. It's far superior to AFI's Top 100 and is based on the popular public opinion instead of snobby critics. If anything, The Dark Knight is one of the only movies in the last few years that really deserves to be that high up on the list. The movie is absolutely incredible and most people who have written a comment in our What Did You Think? post seem to agree. The Dark Knight truly is that amazing!
I think the most impressive aspect of this is that The Dark Knight is a sequel! It is generally assumed that in Hollywood, sequels never ever live up to the original. The only two in history that have succeeded the first (arguably) are The Godfather II and The Empire Strikes Back. But even on IMDb, Godfather II is still ranked below the original. And instead of arguing, I'm going to sit back and say that I truly believe that, for the moment, The Dark Knight deserves this glory. Although I'm sure over time as more votes pour in, it'll decrease in rank, I'm certain it will still end up in the top 10. The moment the movie ended the first time I saw it, I literally thought I had seen the best movie of my life. And honestly, I'm still debating that in my mind. But now the world is coming to an agreement - The Dark Knight is a masterpiece.
Reader Feedback - 54 Comments
a 9.5 with so few votes is very impressive. there are always the random jerks that give movies the lowest rating possible to be funny, and yet its still ranked #1...
Mr Pockets on Jul 19, 2008
Sorry, but I don't agree that its better than the Godfather as is shown in the picture.
Shwan on Jul 19, 2008
It's only a spike. It will level off and be placed lower in the list as more people vote on the film. I remember the same thing happened when The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring came out.
Sean Kelly on Jul 19, 2008
I think TDK deserves it Godfather was freakin awesome but it was a little slow and lacked action.
NW on Jul 19, 2008
Godfather II> Godfather in my opinion. @4 I wouldn't even classify this as a superhero movie. I'd place it in crime dramas, alongside The Departed and others. It doesn't necessarily belong in a single genre as it pretty much blurs quite a few lines. Are we lookin' at a Best Picture Oscar? I don't see much comin' this year that could beat it out to be honest. "Australia" perhaps, as it fits the Oscar stereotype. Still have the Coen brothers movie, but comedies rarely make the list. It'll be interesting to say the least.
Will S. (Co. Springs) on Jul 20, 2008
The Godfather inspired WAY MORE "campy" stuff since it came out. From the pop culture jokes about a chubby man with a raspy, cotton voice, to the often tasteless movie/TV spoofs and so many others....even Rugrats spoofed it. But that's no reason to discredit it's drama is it? No. Not everyone thinks that comics are for kids. The same for cartoons. Surely, WALL-E, Ratatouille and Finding Nemo weren't voted into the top 250 by a bunch of 5 year olds? No. A lot of adults consider the aforementioned movies to be classics and among the best...even though they are animated! Any serious fan of art in general will see pass the surface and will see that, no matter what the medium is, any art can have a deep message. TDK has every right to be on the top. But sadly, it won't be there forever. I know for a fact that lifeless losers will be doing all they can to vote TDK from the top by rating the movie as low as they can. See...nothing is sacred anymore 🙁
P Ross on Jul 20, 2008
TDK is #1 in imdb & it deserves it.. Nuff said.
Gdn | TD on Jul 20, 2008
The reason WHY everyone thinks The Dark Knight is so amazing is because it's a Super Hero movie and a Summer Blockbuster that has the same drama as an Academy Award winning drama flick that you'd catch in the fall during Oscar season. It's a great film, don't get me wrong, but the fact that it's a movie based on a comic book series that people once thought not too long ago were only for kids, and it's so realistic. When you think about it it's absolutely ridiculous that a Batman would run around saving lives like that, and it's even more ridiculous that a Joker would come haggle the city like that. And the fact that the movie makes you BELIEVE it's happening and that it's possible is what makes it great. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the movie or anything, but a great deal of why it was great is simply because it's a brilliant drama piece... that happens to be based on the same material that inspired a hilariously campy 1960's TV series.
Kail on Jul 19, 2008
I can't say The Dark Knight being the first in the top of IMDb list is nothing ... that is Good ... But I think IMDb is not an official voting machine... what I more care about is how many awards the movie will take ... and that will be officially good ... specially Oscars 🙂
Shero on Jul 20, 2008
Wow, am I in the majority that thought spiderman 3 truly sucked in the biggest way possible, and yet it seemed to make money, that's crazy
atgeeks on Jul 20, 2008
It's not like the rating system on IMDb is "Yes or No: is this better than The Godfather?". It's just simply that its average rating is higher.
tartooob on Jul 20, 2008
Imdb top 100 is an absolute joke. The only ones who believe in it are those rabid fanboys who keep posting 10s for the flick they like and give a 1 to every film that could "threat" their precious baby.
Shige on Jul 20, 2008
I consider anyone who spends time reading and posting on a movie site to be "rabid fanboys" :]
Nate on Jul 20, 2008
not as good as the godfather. sorry. it's very very good -- but not 'better' than the godfather. and yet, its all subjective...
derby on Jul 20, 2008
Dear NW, The Godfather was not an action film. If the main star in The Godfather was Vin Diesel, then I can see you wondering why it lacked action, but when I go to Blockbuster I always see it in the Drama section. Love, Kail
Kail on Jul 20, 2008
Id venture to guess that fanboys havnt even seen half of what is even on that list... Not to say TDK doesnt deserve some respect, because it most certainly does.
breach on Jul 20, 2008
Did you just say IMDb's Top 250 is widely respected and recognized as accurate? You must have never seen new release films do this before. It's nothing but zealots (10s and 1s) the first week and then more and more hate votes (1s) until the general public catches on and evens things out. The system is NOT better than RottenTomatoes and Metacritc. That was a really foolish thing to say... But whatever. Anyone with a damned blog can get 'e-published' these days.
CaesarAnavel on Jul 20, 2008
To say that TDK deserves the number one spot, I will not say. I enjoyed this movie as much as the last good good movie I saw, The Departed. TDK was a good story, good direction, good acting. It was good movie to watch. I would say that everyone deserves an oscar nod for suporting actor in this movie. Everyone did such a great job. I can not wait to go see this again and again. Now to be the Comic Nerd. BEST COMIC MOVIE EVER!!!!
AllmightyKeim on Jul 20, 2008
Statistically speaking, it should be of note that out of 23,611 votes, 18,503 were by males ages 18-29 with an average rating of 9.7. Moreover, the 39 "Top 1000" IMDb voters gave the film an average score of 7.1. Now, while I personally think it's better than the 7.1, it's inevitable that this will easily hit below 9.0 in a matter of time. When I saw the midnight show on opening night, I believe the average age of the crowd was probably 20... mostly because everyone who had work the next day didn't want to go to work with dark circles under their eyes.
Rahat on Jul 20, 2008
"I believe that IMDb's Top 250 is one of the most accurate lists ranking the greatest films in history. And since I believe that, most people believe so too." There, fixed it for ya Alex.
Colin (brother of Mike) Hunt on Jul 20, 2008
All I will say, all of the people commenting here seem like Godfather fan boys to me. Bash me, go ahead, but honestly the Godfather was boring and I wish I could take the time I wasted on it back. Don't tell me I "don't understand it" because that's just your fan boy reaction to me.
Oriein on Jul 20, 2008
I'm inclined to agree with CaesarAnaval and Colin. You're statement about the IMDB and AFI list is a bit overblown. Who are these people who think IMDb's Top 250 is more accurate than AFI's 100? I'd argue your average cinema buff - who isn't afraid of old movies - wouldn't place as much stock in the IMDB list as they would in the AFI. Then again maybe I'm out of touch. Then again, who is to say what list is accurate anyway? What defines accurate? Seems a bit self-serving. "I think it's more accurate because it reflects what I think." Which is fair though since lists are subjective ultimately. When I argue I like the AFI list better, I am actually arguing in the end that I think it's better because I agree with it. Anyway, this is why lists are so much fun to write and read and comment on. That's why I think we should be happy we have both lists. One that is compiled by "snobby critics" (as you so charmingly put it) that are not prone to fan-boy hyper-voting and probably have a more expansive knowledge of film than perhaps you've average moviegoer. The other is good because it is, as you said, based popular opinion which I think is an equally valid perspective to appreciate becuase they are the people going into films slightly more for the experience than for critical evaluation.
theREELaddict on Jul 20, 2008
I have seen the dark knight twice and im not suprised its number one. The thing about fanboys are making the movie rank so high. The movie truely is amazing i don't say that light heartedly. If you have seen it and your saying to yourself its not that good or as good as people say it is. Then its your problem setting yourself a bar that no matter how much the film was enjoyable. u'll never like because your bar is too high. Any one who reads all the comments that continually say the movie is amazing is right in thinking its all fanboys of batman. But really if u have seen you will understand where people are coming from. I don't wanna hear crap like people are only raving about the film because (sadly) heath ledger died. Its a load of %^$& that the press spun. people where raving about the approah to the joker 3 months prior to his passing. And for those who single mindedly think it emo people talking themselves into raving about this film. shame on you. go see the movie and pretend its not a batman film. u'll see why people are raving. its coz the movie is frighteningly realistic that plays like a crime thriller. The only reason i can see people not liking the film is because there overweighing there thoughts to publics thought or they have read/seen so much stuff on them movie there totally ignorant to it. Believe me its not a comic kids movie. u'll be thinking its not as good a people say until the movie starts and the roller coaster begins.
chris on Jul 20, 2008
Re Rahat. If you analyze the top 1000 voters, 17,9 % of them has given TDK a rating of 1. I assume that the 1 voters do this to get the Godfather back on top or something like that... There are also "only" 16 546 males 18-29 that have voted. 18 503 in the age group 18-29, but that includes women.
Jan-Øyvind on Jul 20, 2008
Yeah, the first week or two, film ratings are usually very high but then they level out. However, DARK KNIGHT absolutely deserves to be in the top 10, if not top 5.
Ryan on Jul 20, 2008
dear kail................sure its a comic book movie, but this is the only superhero movie i have seen that I can safely say that I actually completely forgot it WAS a comic book movie. Now that is pretty impressive to me. When people were like 'oscars for leger' a lot thought 'oh they are jsut saying that because he is dead' and honestly, I thought that a bit too. But when I saw the movie yesterday, he was the best actor in the film by far and played the role perfectly. Once again, i forgot it was heath ledger playing the role and just some lunatic.
Steve-O on Jul 20, 2008
just because imdb is based on the public's opinion, doesn't make it more accurate. if anything, it makes it less accurate. hopefully, the dark knight will show up in afi's top 100 for its 20th anniversary. no way the dark knight is gonna stay on top, partly bcuz it doesn;t deserve to be. the godfather was virtually flawless, but the batman has its share, such as when harvey dent survived a horrific car crash unharmed but couldn't live from a fall at the end. this is why the godfather is better, but i don't see the dark knight falling below an 8.8
LeeMan on Jul 20, 2008
Bruce Wayne will find a horse head in his bed soon....
sam on Jul 20, 2008
you know what? i think that every actor in The Dark Knight is absolutely flawless especially the joker. He definitely deserves an oscar for that. As for imdb top 200, i think that The Dark Knight definitely deserves number one it but its all based on the voters. The Dark Knight is better than any movies i have watch so far. Dark Knight all the way!!
zachary on Jul 20, 2008
Don't worry people, in a couple f months the movie will get to its true position, among the first 50 or so... This rating was provided by Batman enthusiasts.
overmatik on Jul 20, 2008
FUCK THE GODFATHER!!! there i said it!!! It's a great film, and an important film but it's also vastly overrated Honestly take a moment right now and and look at the list again, which of those movies would you rather watch right now? I'm thinking Pulp Fiction and Shawshank, you? Don't get me wrong, i loved the Godfathers when i watched them, but i won't be rewatching them for a very long time, and you know why? it's because they're not actually enjoyable to watch, and personally i think that should count for something. The problem is that at some point someone decided that the Godfather was the best film ever made and now everyone accepts it blindly without question... well no more! There's a new crimefighter in town and he's cleaning scum like the Corleone's off the streets. As an audience the only thing we can hope for is escalation!
Sinbad on Jul 20, 2008
I agree, Sinbad. The Godfather is a great movie, but there are lots of movies that are more enjoyable to watch than for instance The Godfather part I, II, the Shawshank redemption, Schindler's list and Casablanca.
Jan-Øyvind on Jul 20, 2008
The worst thing about reporting numbers is that now more moviegoers will become superficially obsessed with dollar amounts to influence or gauge their opinions about movies!! There is no need to have additional variables.
Pickle on Jul 20, 2008
well the votes doubled now, 40K+ and its still n1. im so hyped about this now i cant wait till friday when europe gets the release. im sure it'll fall but im thinking n12 is where it'll end up
Antonski on Jul 20, 2008
This movie deserves to be in atleast top 10 in my opinion. I was not really a Batman fan, more of a Superman fan. But, after seeing The Dark Knight I am reconsidering. Batman Begins was all right but this is amazing. It transcends it genre. It seems people don't like it because its a comic book movie. But, if you remove batman suit and all the theatrics that make batman this movie watches like The Departed with intense action and drama. The Dark Knight deserves its #1 spot even if its only for awhile.
Broken on Jul 20, 2008
It seems that TDK has gathered almost 47000 votes by now.... and it still holds the no 1 position in imdb top 250. What do you say about that, hatters? Now truth be told, I haven't seen the movie yet and I'm a huge fan of the Godfather, so I still can't believe that this movie is better than the Godfather, but somewhere deep inside I hope that I will be proven wrong 😀
AFC on Jul 20, 2008
As someone else said, this is just a spike. It will fall as more and more people vote this movie. Better than The Shawshank Redemtpion ? That's an awful joke !!! Yeah, it's good alright, and there's a lot of hype, but to say it's going to top off the all time greats, is not even realistic. Take a look at the figures for yourself. Do some weighted average arithmetic, and you'll soon know that 340,000 9.1 Average vote for The Shawshank will prove superior in the end.
Raj on Jul 20, 2008
Wow, I think your putting way too much into this. I don't know anyone who gives a shit about this list, but I sure do know plenty that watch the AFI list shows. TDK is great, but not the top movie of all time. I know it does'nt mean much , but you lost credit in my eyes for reporting this.
Gene on Jul 20, 2008
I dont think The Dark Knight is the best movie ever but the best i have seen for a long time maybe since The Departed, i think it deserves the top as of right now but will drop when more votes come in. Going to see it again tonight and cannot wait loved the movie best of the year hands down.
Curtis on Jul 20, 2008
IMDb's Top 100 list is not an accurate indicator at all. Most of the ratings are from 12-year-olds who give 10s to anything and everything. You should know that by now; it's been that way for years. (Personally, I'd rate The Dark Knight an 8 out of IMDb 10.)
avoidz on Jul 20, 2008
Now you see where the promotion-budget went to.
Tom on Jul 20, 2008
Normally I enjoy your work Alex so I hate to put you down in even the slightest way, but who is "a lot of people"? Thats a bold statement dude.
Gene on Jul 20, 2008
now they are just over doing it, the dark knight doesn't come close to godfather. godfather was far better.
Darrin on Jul 20, 2008
the top 250 on imdb is bs... interview with a vampire is not on there, or the last samuari
Donald Buxton on Jul 21, 2008
I'm just curious as to why they keep naming The Good, the Bad and The Ugly in Italian.
Alfredo on Jul 21, 2008
Probably because it's originally an Italian production and later released in the US, hence the Italian title on IMDb.
avoidz on Jul 21, 2008
I can't understand, why is it first on Imdb? I don't believe that this film is going to be better then The Godfather/
Ukrnet on Jul 22, 2008
over 91,000 votes now with a 9.4... the next highest movie, the godfather, has a 9.1. that's a pretty big gap. and to put it a little more in perspective, the number 5 movie, the good the bad and the ugly, has an 8.9 with 97,000 votes. i'm not so sure batman should be considered the best movie of all time, but i won't argue that it shouldn't at least be in the top 50.
jon on Jul 22, 2008
I don't agree with everyone saying Ledger deserves an oscar. Don't get me wrong, the performance was unbelievable. But, when has an actor completely covered in make up and costume won best actor. I don't think playing the Joker really proved Ledger deserves an oscar. I think Bale played Batman as flawless as Ledger played the Joker, and neither deserves the oscar. It just wasn't a role that truly showcased their acting performances. Although I will say that if Nolan does not get Best Director, I will be disappointed. I credit Nolan for most of DK success.
mark on Jul 24, 2008
Now many agree that IMDB ranking system should be changed. I proposed a reform some time ago, based on the simple idea that not every viewer should have the same weight. The complete idea (still very brief!) is on my site (click on my name).
milivella on Jul 29, 2008
TDK is far too overrated, it's a good movie, but it is in no way the "greatest" movie ever
Bill on Dec 21, 2008
The Top 250 is well recognized as one of the most inaccurate "Greatest" lists of all time, actually. Just a few minutes of reading the comments on the forums will prove this. It's nothing more than a popularity contest. The Dark Knight was damned impressive, but overrated. Too much hype.
Aaron on Mar 16, 2009
If you want to understand how TDK dethroned The Godfather, check this article http://strat.in/2009/07/how-the-dark-knight-helped-the-shawshank-redemption-to-pip-the-godfather-as-the-best-movie-in-imdb-250/
Natrajan on Jul 18, 2009
This was so silly. Yes, the Dark Knight was very good and deserves top 15 at the least, but The Godfather and The Shawshank Redemptions were timeless classics.
zombie on Jul 17, 2010
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