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Yes, But if you ask a New Zealand rugby fan why the South African team won the world cup, they will tell you of a woman called Suzie who was a waitress at the hotel the New Zealand team was staying at, and is widely believed to have poisoned the Kiwi's prior to the final.

cinemabandit on Jun 5, 2009

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all his movies are bullshitly overrated

sir w on Jun 5, 2009

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Agreed. Gran tourino… WTF!?

NeoN247 on Jun 5, 2009

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Gran Torino was phenomenal and how you could say that such a legend as Clint Eastwood is overrated is beyond me. That just tells me that you're probably a teenager who doesn't know much about this history of film making in general.

Eastwood is an icon of contemporary cinema…

peloquin on Jun 5, 2009

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And I find it interesting that Timothy McVeigh's last words were "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."

It's a very powerful poem…

peloquin on Jun 5, 2009

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Sorry but gran tourino was one of the worst acted films i have ever seen, not to mention the script. Half the time i was laughing for all the growling he was doing…

Dont get upset because i criticised ure hero, its healthy to have debate.

Im afraid i dont agree with you so obviously that makes me a teenager who knows nothing about the history of film making. Nuff said…

NeoN247 on Jun 5, 2009

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Neon: you were supposed to laugh at his growling. it was intended to be funny.

But ya, the kids' acting was beyond bad. especially the girl when she's getting hit on by the group of black guys. eastwood should have known better.

Mike on Jun 5, 2009

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I don't care that you don't like the man, but you can't say that he hasn't shaped film as we know it. You need to respect him for the impact he's made on the industry and the diverse amount of classics he's given us that took genres in directions no one had thought of previously. I'm always up for a healthy debate so why don't you cite some of the films which you think were terrible. He's a writer, director, producer, actor, and composer and anyone who can take on that many roles on a project has a whole lot of talent not to mention a rock solid work ethic.

And in regards to the acting in Gran Torino, of course it was going to be bad, what did you expect? How hard do you think it is to find actors who speak both Hmung and English in LA? Eastwood cast the film with rookie actors and took them under his wing everyday to train them into the roles he needed them for. Most of them were commercial actors, film students, and extras. To take on such novices is a huge risk, but a respectable one for a veteran like Eastwood to endure in order to bring his story to life. As for his facial expressions, a good actor can speak dialogue strongly, but a great actor can convey his point without uttering a single word.

peloquin on Jun 5, 2009

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i'd expect the people who mention Eastwoods films as overrated to come from a site that is usually a Bay lovers paradise.

Al on Jun 5, 2009

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#8 - I'm just impressed that he can makes two movies on years time, which is a LOT faster than other great directors like PTA and Aronofsky. Eastwood is a frickin' work horse, that's for sure!

Alex Billington on Jun 5, 2009

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never said hes bad, just overrated, in fact I enjoyed Gran Torino, its good but nowhere near great, I believe most people pretend to appreciate his recent movies only because hes clint eastwood

sir w on Jun 6, 2009

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By that same logic the same critics would be praising Coppola because he's Francis Ford Coppola, but that's not the case if you've read any recent reviews of Tetro.

A good story is a good story regardless…

peloquin on Jun 6, 2009

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"Suzie who was a waitress at the hotel the New Zealand team was staying at, and is widely believed to have poisoned the Kiwi's prior to the final" and i wonder who poisoned the Kiwis in the previous world cup, or the Chiefs in the last Super 14 Match. South-African Rugby RULES.. no question

Springbuck on Jun 10, 2009

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"South-African Rugby RULES.. no question", and yet the All Blacks are world number one despite only winning the inaugural world cup in 1987, have won 88% of their matches since their inception and have made the finals in every world cup. Also, in the days when there was no world cup, and the unofficial world cup was fought between South Africa, Australia and New Zealand, the All Blacks were still dominant. New Zealand Rugby RULES… officially

AllBluck on Jun 19, 2009

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Everyone knows a South African waitress poisoned the All Blacks. The AB's have the best record in the world not SA.

NZ111 on Aug 30, 2009

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Poisoned by a waitress called Suzie or not, many of the New Zealand Team were suffering from food poisoning! Original footage will show the NZ player throwing up during the game, but they played on and just lost! It will be interesting to see if this will be mentioned during the movie?

To play a game like rugby with a gastric bug is very hard, but to play it at international level is near impossible to do and compete! If that New Zealand team was fully fit they would have murdered the Spring Boks!

Hak on Oct 30, 2009

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The All Blacks lost the 1995 World Cup final because they were poisoned. They lost the other finals because they were not good enough. A fact is a fact.

paul on Nov 2, 2009

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guys, this is just a film! why are you taking this so seriously? we all know the boks had won more games than the all blacks pre isolation and the all blacks have won more games post isolation. but this is just a film!! eastwood is a legend, damon and freemon too. mandela is biggest legend of them all, and pienaar… well, you can't say enough about the man… i'm just glad the boks won that game, because it united a nation and through this movie will put rugby firmly on the map. Its such a small sport in global terms compred to the reach of football… that said i wish the kiwis would stop yapping on about the poison… all of us in the UK are so tired of it. it makes you look like sore losers, even if it were true (which no one bar the brainwashed kiwis believe).

Dale on Nov 10, 2009