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i still want to see more, T4 had its problems but it was still much better than T3, so it can only get better

harrison on Aug 21, 2009

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i think most people feel the same on these movies now. if they make a new one who cares if they don't who cares. I thought salvation had some good action so for me it was entertaining but the movie was far from good. Just the whole time traveling thing doesn't work out with logic.

eric estrada on Aug 21, 2009

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i liked it, and was looking forward to 5, its a shame halcyon is going down, but im sure someone else will pick up the rights, for a "bomb" it sure made a crap ton of money, you cant judge everything by its first weekend.

Brian Barajas on Aug 21, 2009

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Alex, I completely disagree with your take on T Salvation- it was an awesome popcorn flick with good acting and amazing graphics & sound. Sure, the plot lacked a little something, but to say it was 'so bad' is wrong in my opinion. I didn't do so well (for that kind of movie) financially in the U.S., but the worldwide gross did net the studio a $170 million profit. The franchise could really get rebooted with a more war-based T5.

Antioch on Aug 21, 2009

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I liked T4, too, and if they stopped making all movies that were as 'bad' as T4 there'd only be 10-15 movies released each year.

RandyG on Aug 21, 2009

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I loved Salvation on McG really redeemed Terminator after T3 so yeah I'm ready for another one, just…there needs to be a better writer on set, from what I heared the Salvation script had a lot of changes done to it, and I hope they do not follow that one story line about Connor traveling back in time, we've waited since 1984 to see the future and I'm not interested in seeing the past again.

There is only one way for it to go up, and those complaining about the lack of a story line well i'll say this the action was superb, there was good acting on both parts Worthington, even though his voice broke on a few lines, same with Bale and Yelchin was probably at his best here the kid has really come up in the past few years. So I'm hoping the stroy will be fleshed out more in the upcoming Terminator 5.

Xerxex on Aug 21, 2009

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Oh and saying that Terminator 4 "was so bad" is stupid, and really Cameron could offer some insight on where the Terminator story should go even though he is busy with Avatar, Terminator was amazing, Terminator 2 was great, Terminator 3 was okay, Terminator 4 was good! Come on lets give McG one more chance, hell they give Uwe Boll more chances then he deserves, and look where that has gone, so go ahead and bring a new Terminator.

Xerxex on Aug 21, 2009

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Antioch, he said he liked it but it didn't perform well and so I totally agree with him. I think you do as well.

ClausVangaurd on Aug 21, 2009

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wow, couldn't agree more with #1 and #4.

I mean, T4 was just as good or better than Wolverine and Transformers 2 this year and T3 from a while back.

Branden on Aug 21, 2009

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#9 - probably even a notch or two above.

RandyG on Aug 21, 2009

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I enjoyed Salvation. If they are going to re-cast John Connor though and whatever Terminator of the week the scribe decides to pen in, I think I will pass. I don't agree Arnold needs to be in it CGI or other, however the movie needs some consistency and that is where I believe fans will be turned off, if they recast and not continue the story from the last.

Darkside on Aug 21, 2009

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@ 11:

You put your finger on it, as much as I like T1-T4 and the Sara Conner Chronicles, the story has been stretched in so many directions it has lost something special. If there is a T5 it needs some consistency/continuity.

RandyG on Aug 21, 2009

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District 9 has proven you can make smart, popular science fiction for about $30 million.
Terminator Salvation proved that you can throw $200 million at a pile of crap and it will remain a pile of crap.
Grab a few screenwriters who truly love and understand the franchise, a director itching to make something truly different, and give them $30 million to reboot the Terminator franchise.

It will work, trust me.

William Mize on Aug 21, 2009

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Could really care less. T4 is one of the worst movies this year IMO.

Curtis G on Aug 21, 2009

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i would like to see more Terminator movies if done right the problem was the screen writters John Brancato and Michael Ferris. them guys dont know nothing about Terminator they wrote Catwoman and Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines.

also Warner Bros been a pussy for not having a R-Rated movie. instead we get a PG-13 movie with scenes been cut that everyone notice when watching the movie.

tazz on Aug 21, 2009

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t4 was a great roller coaster movie and amazing cgi and acting 2 that held you back on your seats!
i would like to see a terminator vs robocop movie next cause there rebooting robocop and terminator salvation was almost a reboot to the whole entire terminator movies so it could happen anytime soon..

Spider94 on Aug 21, 2009

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#13 William Mize

you are so right District 9 only had a budget of $30 million and its better then Terminator Salvation, GI Joe, Transformers.

the truth is alot of lower budget movies with a good director and screen writters are better then these big budget movies. even Kung Fu Hustle is a low budget movie the budget for that movie was only $20 million and thats movie was great

tazz on Aug 21, 2009

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I care. They left the story wide open and I want to see more. Sure, Terminator Salvation was no T2, but it was fun. I liked where they were going with it.

Dan Geer on Aug 21, 2009

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Personally I loved Terminator Salvation and I hated T3 I don't even count T3 as canon. I was glad they finally decided to make a Terminator film that wasn't entirely dependent on Arnold's involvement. Arnold plays a great terminator but you cant and you shouldn't try to remake T2 over and over again which is why I think T3 failed in my opinion other than the fact that the whole movie felt like a bad joke.
I think the reason people have problems with Terminator Salvation is that it has more of a serious tone than they are used to when it comes to a Terminator film. But they should realize that the only times that T2 had its funny moments actually made sense because they were dependent on the fact that the T800 didnt understand certain things about human interaction.

Alex T. on Aug 21, 2009

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ridiculous to say that t4 was that bad, how fucked up are we that we cant even appreciate an action movie anymore. this film school mentality needs to gtfo of the action genre because its snobbing it up with stupid bullshit. T4 was by no means a masterpiece, but it was a fun flick to watch and i was never bored watching it.

tw on Aug 21, 2009

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Stop pretending as if you're truly speaking for the fans of the Terminator franchise. I'm assuming you're stoked about the new Twilight movie?


You think because some corporate losers screwed the Terminator franchise that all of a sudden all the fans no longer want to see a Terminator move ever again?


Even though Terminator salvation wasn't great, it was the poor script and poor choice for director that really did it. A bad script is almost always going to equal a bad movie.


What a dumb article.

Alex the Fool on Aug 21, 2009

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NOW the fans have spoken, Alex. T4 was good, and we want more.

Tom on Aug 21, 2009

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I'm interested if they bring in new writers and stay in the future. No sending terminators to the past in England. Dumbass McG

Cat on Aug 21, 2009

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whats all these attack at Alex for the guy even said "he enjoy Terminator Salvation and would've liked to see more"

his right that the fans has spoken cause the movie was not a major success that we hope to be

luke on Aug 21, 2009

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only thing that still bugs me form salvation was there was more Sam Worthington than Christian Bale and that common said "look its beautiful" pissed me off the whole movie for some reason idk i guess its how he said it

Darren on Aug 21, 2009

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I enjoyed Terminator Salvation i had been waiting for a all out fight against the machines since T2, and while I was still left waiting for the most part I thought that it was a lot better than T3 and I am really looking forward to T5

David on Aug 21, 2009

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I thought T4 was an amazing movie. I don't personally know anyone who didn't think it was at least good. I hope to see a T5.

Vold on Aug 21, 2009

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T4 sucked. The plot was aweful, effects was ok but crude imo, acting I don't really care but I really didn't like when Bale used his Batman voice (you know, the lame raspy voice he does when he wants to sound serious or something…).

I'm not saying I wouldn't enjoy a fifth Terminator but that's mainly because I want a kind of closure on it. Like, they actually defeat Sky Net and they actually send back the terminators through time.

Felix on Aug 21, 2009

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#25

heres something really piss me off why the hell John Connor would use Sony VAIO notebook in Terminator Salvation thats just dumb and bad advertising for that product in that movie. that movie tells me that Sony products will be still selling in Judgement Day.

darkone on Aug 21, 2009

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I can't help but feel that the more Terminator movies they make, the more they are damaging the reputation of the first two classics. Just leave it alone, or if you must keep the name alive do it in tangential ways that don't effect Cameron's work (video games, TV, comics, etc.).

Mathieu on Aug 21, 2009

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i liked "salvation". i don't know that i'm dying for T5, but i'd certainly give it a look.

dan on Aug 21, 2009

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T4 was good. T5 plot sounds interesting hopefully they don't pull the plug on it.

ZzFDKzZ on Aug 21, 2009

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T4 was either really bad, or my expectations were extremely high. In the end I'd say it was a mix of the two leaning more toward it was bad.

The story didn't flow the best, it had a few too many cliches and the level of cheese at times was out of this world.

Rick on Aug 21, 2009

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I enjoyed Terminator Salvation and thought it was a good summer popcorn flick. I'd give it a solid 3 out of 4 stars, very entertaining. However, I really wouldn't care if they decide not to make another Terminator movie again.

Chris on Aug 21, 2009

35

Hold on there. First you say it was "So Bad" but by the end of the article you enjoyed it? It's one or the other..

To be honest, i thought the film was alright. I think the trailers were MUCH better than the actual film which is a bad thing in a way, but I could see where the franchise was going and would much rather see more of those films than more bloody twilight films.

Stuart Mellor on Aug 21, 2009

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LET IT DIE!!!! that well dried up long ago…should have been laid to rest after #2…end of story…

moldybread on Aug 21, 2009

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PLEASE MAKE ANOTHER 1 COME ON SET IN THE PRESENT

jono on Aug 21, 2009

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You know what ,James Cameron needs to take back is baby.
"Terminator", and "T2" were awesome , because of James Cameron.
T3 and T4 lost its luster, because of weak story lines, bad acting,bad production and directing.
All the effects in the world can't save a movie from just sucking..look at the remake of "War of the Worlds"

Nicholas on Aug 21, 2009

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I thought Alex supported T4 like crazy now he's saying how bad it was. Wow what a contradiction. I know it sucked but that's just funny. Well, let it die. Get creative hollywood and make something that lacks visual and story like Avatar. Oh wait…

Tra la la la la di da on Aug 21, 2009

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The Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles tv show was much better than Terminator Salvation. Let's keep it going on ths small screen.

Marco on Aug 21, 2009

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When I watched T4 I was expecting a disaster, but I came out entertained and felt that the criticisms it received were harsh. At the end of T2 I felt that there was some closure. At the end of T3 I thought "Enough Already" how much blood can you get out of a stone.

However at the end of T4 I was open to the thought of a T5. Now that it's been considered, I hope they run with it. The storyline is open to a continuation and if they do I'll be going to see it.

Ezza on Aug 21, 2009

42

I enjoyed T4, even though it seems others didn't so much. It certainly doesn't compare to how awesome the first two were, but it was enjoyable. I feel like people are too harsh on it though. I haven't really thought of another one, but if they do….or they don't, doesn't matter to me.

Sabes on Aug 21, 2009

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This will be a day long remembered… that is if it has seen the end of the McG interference, in the Terminator universe. T:Sal. was one of the shittiest movies I've ever seen. If this proves to be true, the news can't get any better.

Dave Lister, JMC on Aug 21, 2009

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This is fantastic news. Terminator Salvation was not good at all. It felt like I was watching someone else play a video game. This franchise should have stopped with James Cameron. It goes to prove that no one sles can do this franchise justice like he did.

The only good that came out of Salvation was that it made Terminator 3 look golden.

Thankyou Mcg!!

last Son on Aug 21, 2009

45

I actually liked Terminator Salvation despite it's flaws.

I think the only thing a fifth Terminator needs is some better writers and some better direction.

SlashBeast on Aug 21, 2009

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As I read the comments on here, most like it, but some don't. A few are totally wiped out against T4. While the story had some holes, it is not something that can't be fixed in T5. T4 was meant to be the first part of a 3 part movie. When viewed as a movie by itself, well yeah it receives a low rating. Maybe 4 out of 10 at best. When viewed as movie 4 of the 4 movies about The Terminator story, and yeah even with the Sarah Connors Cs, it raises it's rating to maybe a 5 1\2. But when you view it as the first of a three part movie, it has potential to become an 8 or 8 1\2 to greater. Yeah a lot of folks were hyped up and expected something to just blow them away, but this film alone didn't do that. The makers can well remember now that Terminator fans are special and won't just take anything they want to dish out. Real Terminator fans want more, but they want it done right! Not just something slapped together to make a buck. We want them to make money, but we want our money's worth! Don't leave holes in the plot, nor in the story line. Did I not understand Judgement day correctly? Nation was against nation because they thought we were against them and blowing Nukes their way? So they blowed Nukes back and thus humanity was on the verge of being extent? But we begin with the world leaders or some of them gathered in a sub as the leaders of the resistance. The signal was a decoy, but did they try to use it to shut down the hunter that came up fast to blow them into history? John Connors got the signal to work, why not shut down the Terminator, even skynet? Holes in the plot? We don't want to fill in the holes, let the movie be complete without holes! Explain yourself even if it takes all three movies, and the Terminator fans will be loyal! Refuse and they will dump you just as quick. But with or without you, they will still be Terminator fans. (Personally I look forward hoping T5 and T6 are added.

samwise7 on Aug 22, 2009

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I think that TERMINATOR SALVATION was a good and enjoyable action movie it is almost as good as the previous three movies and i think that it deserves to have a sequel and i am really looking forward to it and also they did their best to put Arnold Schwarzenegger in it.

So for me it deserves to have a sequel because i really love Terminator Salvation despite its small flaws it doesn't matter it is really a good blockbuster movie.

Looking forward for its sequel…

THANK YOU……………….

Jm Gillera on Aug 22, 2009

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i loved Salvation. Personally i liked it more than the other "blockbuster" movies this summer. As for the money its made thus far, thats just the tip of the ice burg. Many movies have done well but not great in the theaters but then made a killing in DvD sales. i think it best to wait and see how much more cash flows in once the blu-rays and dvds hit before capping this horse in the head. Long live Terminator!

Xero on Aug 22, 2009

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Anyone notice the similarities between Terminator Salvation and Tropic Thunder?

This is quite interesting:

1. A Black rapper.
2. A Director who can't control his cast. (Bale Rant)
3. An intense 'method actor' who has a history of controversy. (Bale)
4. An Australian actor in a supporting role.
5. A 'War' film.
6. One of the most expensive movies almost never made.
7. Defeated by a rival Ben Stiller movie.
8. Cockburn/McG
9. Les Grossman didn't need a key grip. He got Bill Murray to headbutt McG.

p.s. Terminator Salvation was terrible.

Method Actor on Aug 22, 2009

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Agree with #14

Me and my family couldn't get through watching all of it…

Movie Fan on Aug 22, 2009

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#49 that was the stupidest shit i have read in a long time… thanks for that.

Salvation was so much better then T3 that i honestly would like another Terminator.

but i agree with most who say the story ended at 2

DoomCanoe on Aug 22, 2009

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T4 was good, a lot of better than T3 who cares what the critics says?

George on Aug 22, 2009

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Terminator: Salvation: It has enough pace and excitement to keep action fans switched on, This is Sam Worthington's movie, and he steals it, decent action film, far superior to the awful Terminator 3. Despite some laughably silly plot elements, McG has created an overall entertaining movie experience. Being a rabid fan that grew up on the franchise created by James Cameron, the idea of McG getting behind the camera for this sequel was slightly nauseating, and yet, by some miracle, the fourth film in the franchise is (barely) passable.

George on Aug 22, 2009

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that's all BS, who ever is starting this idea that it won't move forward…..didnt the movie make $370……shit how many movie studios would like that total….was it a epic movie, but it was good…..and i'm curious to see where it goes with 5….first TSCC now this, they would nothing left lol

here's a stupid or interesting question depending on each individual's point of view…..can JC take back the franchise? I don't know what happen or the rules with it but i was just wondering…plus would he want it?

Blue & Orange NY on Aug 22, 2009

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Terminator salvation wasn't that bad. I actually enjoy it. It wasn't perfect but
it was much better than T3 and Arnold shwarzneger performance in it. Financially, it didn't achieve what the producers expected especially in the US. So, planning for a sequel might be a risky decision to make. However, as I said, the movie was entertaining and I hope that this franchise will continue hopefully using better writers and better directors.

MK on Aug 22, 2009

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Method Actor umm The rant is old news nobody cares anymore. Move on.

And Bale always does his part.

Xerxex on Aug 22, 2009

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So far there's no one i know who disliked T4 , i don't understand where the "was so bad" comes from or the "no one wants to see a terminator movie" as everyone i've talked about it with loved the film at least in my country. While all i've heard about the so called Avatar is just "Meh" I mean from "real" people who are not into movie websites like this. I'm of course more than ready for a T5 and even a 6th one!

Freddy on Aug 22, 2009

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Freddy welcome to the bandwagon, man…everyone I've talked about the film loved everything about, as did I.

The problem is Terminator 2 has been set on a pedestal as the best on the best of the best, so of course Salvation was going to be met with hostilities, but most of it is bandwagon hate.

But McG brought us a solid Terminator flick, yes there were plot holes, what movie dosen't have any?

Xerxex on Aug 22, 2009

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T4 was a good movie squashed with a lot of Transformers nonsense, Tranformers is rubbish, end of. I reckon part 5 will be decent, I don't care either way if it continues, but I definitely enjoyed part 4.

Crapola on Aug 22, 2009

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its funny how everyone is now like "yea i loved t4" but when the movie came out you all were like "stupid movie i hate it"

john on Aug 23, 2009

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I think they can do T5 and even T6 there alway be an audience for this genre.
Lot of guys talk about "unlogical movie" and "stupid movie", who cares it's just fiction, it's ment to be that way.

Rufus on Aug 23, 2009

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I usually don't complain about the way Alex writes his articles, but I have to object to the line

"It doesn't help that "no one" is really that interested in seeing more Terminator movies after Terminator Salvation was so bad"

I really don't see how that opinion can be formed. It's done almost 400 million Worldwide, there are clearly a lot of people even just posting on this site that were satisfied with Salvation, and it's IMDb rating is a solid 7, which is higher than Wolverine, Transformers, GI Joe and Angels and Demons. Despite the flaws in those movies nobody really questions whether there are a lot of people out there that want sequels to it. I personally loved Salvation even despite some flaws. However my interest in a sequel has nothing to do with how good the most recent one was, it's solely based on where the story can go from here. The best stuff from the War is still to come so I say bring on the sequels.

Colca on Aug 23, 2009

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Terminator Salvation was garbage, Christian Bales Conner was not in any way believable as a leader, they decided to turn him into a Neo/ the One type character which was horrid. The floating explanation given to Marcus at the end made no logical sense, WHY THE HELL WOULD SKYNET MONOLOGUE??? The action was worse than the 5 minute scene in the opening of 2 (with the exception of the truck vs. motorcyles scene, the best part of the film) Every decision skynet made was nonsensical and idiotic.

Oh and it had one of the worst endings I have ever seen, with a groan inducing "the fight isn't over" voiceover at the end.

At least Terminator 3 had a ballsy ending.

shadow on Aug 23, 2009

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I think in the end I would have loved more Terminator if Cameron was making them after T2, but that is not the case. Id rather the series die than allow "director of the week" to step in and keep making sub par entries to the franchise.

Not to say I did not get some enjoyment out of T3 or T4, but T2 they were not. Like most I cant say I really care that much if I ever see T5 or not.

Breach on Aug 23, 2009

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Shadow the ballsy ending wasn't that ballsy, it had to happen and it was expected in the end of it all.

Xerxex on Aug 23, 2009

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Hopefully not. T4 was bad and the series of Terminator not really interestant. Bring it to an end. Please.

Handtaschen on Aug 23, 2009

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I think the series should have ended after t2. T3 thew away the entire story about saving the future from skynet. It's complete garbage and negates the ENTIRE first two movies by saying "well, whoops, you can't actually change the future!"

Korm on Aug 24, 2009

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Wrong. We DO want more Terminator, we just want two things:

– DON'T CHANGE AN BAD ASS ENDING [ie Connor's consciousness inserted into Marcus' terminator body then made to look like John Connor, therefore making the leader of the resistance into a machine].

– Make Christian Bale quit using that constipated voice.

I liked T3 and T4, but the inconsistancies piss me off [T3 said the future IS set]. TSCC, which I watched all off, was too much drama, and not enough badassery. Sarah Connor is not a concerned mommy, she's a bad ass war fighter. WAAAY too much crying in that show. Only good thing was Cameron.

Frank on Aug 24, 2009

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Ok all of you that are a part of MCG's crew stfu!! Terminator salvation was a watered down PG mad max wannabe for kids! It totally sold out the franchise by making it a PG and not R with tons of violence like the first Terminator movies! People expected a future war like saving private Ryan type action not some kids movie!

zeedaddy on Sep 1, 2009

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I really liked T4. Especially after the terrible T3 they gave us. How was T4 a "bad" or "terrible" movie? Have these people not seen GI Joe? Ever watch Transformers or Fighting? Those movies were pure garbage.

Whoever thinks Terminator is dead isn't too smart. 400 million dollars without DVD sales isn't terrible. Why not wait until the DVD sales are added? How can the company that owns the rights to the Terminator series be broke? What did they do with the profits?

T4 was the first part of the future war. Everyone should have expected more of a serious movie. The whole world was nuked!!!! Machines are trying to kill the remaining humans!!! Do you think these people are going to have some Dave Chappelle sense of humor? They are scratching to stay alive for gods sake!

We need:
-More Bale being the leader of the human resistance(John Connor being John Connor)
-Lazer weapons(Can't wait)
-More connections to the older films(T4 did a good job, I think)
-Noooooo going back in time!!!!!!!!! WTF??? I have waited to see the post Judgement Day war for ever. I do not want to go back to another "Chase" film!!!!! WTF???
-Explainations of the war

Aaron on Sep 4, 2009

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@Aaron

I agree with you on some points but who said anything about humor. No one wanted humor in this movie.

Definitely don't want another going back in time movie. We want the future war. What would it take to convince Cameron to come back and show us the future war the right way? His 2 minutes of the future war at the beginning of T2 were better than anything from the 3rd or 4th movie.

cat on Sep 6, 2009

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The First Terminator film will always be my favorite. T2 & T3 i thought were great sequels and of-course Terminator Salvation makes me want to see more how the future war turns out. Id say people over exaggerated about how bad the hated the film. Think about it people, this is only the beginning!, the early years of the war between SKYNET & Mankind. After the ending climax we saw the prototype T-800's get destroyed & its creation will be delayed. Plus we still have to see the laser weapons, more bigger machines seen in T1 & T2 flashbacks be developed etc. Think of it as the Star Wars prequel trilogy, its all about how it gets to the point where SKYNet will first attempt to kill Connor by sending the first terminator back in time.

the punisher on Oct 2, 2009