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What's the wait time for a Thor teaser? Will it show in front of IM2?

jake the snake on Nov 19, 2009

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excellent choice! I predict this movie is going to be done well

Gabe the Accuser on Nov 19, 2009

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Can't forget that this guy played "Stringer Bell" from the best tv show nobody watched, "The wWre"

Gabe the Accuser on Nov 19, 2009

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Yeah I merked Stringer in season 4 last episode..

Avon Barksdale on Nov 19, 2009

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the wire was awesome, except for the ridiculous serial killer plot during the last season. #2 behind Deadwood.

Karl on Nov 19, 2009

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He was awesome in The Wire!

xMort on Nov 20, 2009

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I can't wait for this!!!

Robbie on Nov 20, 2009

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So Thor is based on Norse Mythology? Idris Elba looks pretty Nordic to me…Why not then cast Thor as 50 Cent? Mind you Nick Fury is now black ( sorry,,, African American) . I wonder if a Black Panther adaptation will be cast with Nick Cage to balance things out?

ConnachtFan on Nov 20, 2009

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8* See Prince of Persia

napoleonblownapart on Nov 20, 2009

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#8 maybe the producers of all movies should run them by you first to make sure they properely reflect the races of characters from comic books and other fictional pieces in order to appeal to the smallest niche and least profitable audience. Oh thats right, your opinion obviously doesnt matter.

KJC on Nov 20, 2009

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its not racist behaviour if you dont want bad casting in a movie that should be so good, i also hated the spawn movie because a black character from the book(Terry) was white in the movie just because the rest of the cast was 80% black
its not the color its how someone fits into a role and someone who doesnt look a fucking bit like a norse god cant play a fucking norse god, end of this stupid bitchin!!!

gojoes on Nov 20, 2009

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^^^

Until more non-whites speak out against white-washing in films I'm all for it.

K on Nov 20, 2009

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^^^

EDIT: Until more whites speak out against white-washing in films I'm all for it.

K on Nov 20, 2009

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i'm not racist but if the charactor is white shouldn't the person casted be as well.i thought that would make sense.oh well nothing is perfect i can't fucking wait for this film

tobi,leader of the akatsuki on Nov 20, 2009

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If he brings 10% of what Stringer Bell was as a character then you will quickly forget all this racist bullshit.

Tom on Nov 20, 2009

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Its not racist to want a proper casting. A white comic book character should be portrayed by a white actor. That just makes sense. If the character was black in the comic then he should be portrayed by a black actor. It is common sense.

Vold on Nov 20, 2009

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And yes Idris Elba is an excellent actor i am not disputing this. He has played some great roles and i'm sure he will again i just wish he wasn't in this particular film.

Vold on Nov 20, 2009

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You guys are right when you say it is not racist to prefer an actor to play a comicbook character of the same race… it is called being ignorant. You telling me that you'd rather have a crummy wooden actor as opposed to another talented actor that can lend a realistic performance to a fictitious comic book character (which is what all real fans want ALWAYS)…. because of the color of their skin?

I take that back. That is racist.

Ro vs Racist People on Nov 20, 2009

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HELLS YEAH, STRINGER BELL

Voice of Reason on Nov 20, 2009

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How did this topic get to racism? O wait yeah #8 said something and all of you had to get your say. Lemmings we be

Cody on Nov 20, 2009

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Seriously?

Not to be racist, but in Norse mythology, pretty much everybody is white. And if they weren't, then they were a frost giant. And if they weren't that, they were a mixture of the two.

If they are going to cast a black fellow, have him be someone that can logically be black.

Angry Chief on Nov 20, 2009

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like it! seems that Thor is gonna be the pinnacle of comic book films.

xerxex on Nov 20, 2009

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i am neither ignorant nor am i racist dumbfucking i just think there are plenty of actors who could portray heimdall perfect and it is not ignorant or racist what we said, its logical, if i would be a racist i would not be scared to say so. but i want proper casting and in a comicbook movie its all about appearance because comics are a visual medium, understood?
stop insulting strangers you never know what color my skin might be…

yojoe on Nov 20, 2009

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look it's not racist wanting the film to be as close to the source material it's based on,if a charactor is white he should be white,if idris elba was playing the black panther,luke cage or war machine i wouldn't have a problem,am i racist wanting an AKIRA FILM WITH AN ALL JAPANESE CAST.

tobi,leader of the akatsuki on Nov 20, 2009

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This just means that Idris Elba will be the dude in the background that looks bad ass when Thor walks by as he enters Asgard. Why the extra hype???

blester01 on Nov 20, 2009

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See everyone! Hire an English director and this is what you get. Multicultural garbage. I wrote about this on a previous Thor thread. More anti-germanic racist English Labour Party ideology. Why not just make the whole cast non-germanic so Branagh can show what a tolerant, multicultural, diversity believing individual he is. What's next- casting Jack Straw? When a film about an asian story uses non-asians, people complain. When a film about a germanic story uses non-germanic people, it's a triumph of "diversity". Every Germanic person with an ounce of self worth should boycott this racist piece of garbage movie.

Phil on Nov 20, 2009

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I have no doubt about Idris Elba's acting chops, but he doesn't look like the part. If someone said Danny DeVito was gonna play the part and I objected does that make me a "Hightist"?

Answer this (and I've asked this before when the race card is played):

Would you let a white guy play Shaft?

jasonmd2020 on Nov 20, 2009

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Jasonmd2020 "Hightist?" I like it!

and to answer you're Shaft question…well the Samuel L. Jackson one was tremedously awful, and I'd say yes let a white dude play him! LOL.

xerxex on Nov 20, 2009

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I hope Beyonce plays Wonder Women!!!

Eric B on Nov 20, 2009

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Stinger Bell baby. This movie is gonna be sweet.

Matty on Nov 20, 2009

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Stringer*

Matty on Nov 20, 2009

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I'm okay with will smith being Cap

Bucker on Nov 20, 2009

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Hogun the Grim is from Asgard and he's Asian. Just pointing out that in the Marvel Universe adaptation of Asgard, everyone isn't white. I understand that he's still white in the comics but who really gives a fuck? The character is supposed to be badass and I'm sure he'll play it that way. And seeing as though he's not that big of a character and some of you are in uproar, I'd say yeah, it is a little racist. I can see you being mad if Captain America was played by a black guy because 1.) that's a main character and it would be completely screwing with that and 2.) because it wouldn't be logical for him to be representative of the U.S.A. and black in WWII era America. But Asgard is a made up place, if they say theres a black guy, theres a black guy. Change your tampons whiny bitches.

Leoben on Nov 20, 2009

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I can't wait to see Chris Rock play the Flash.

Angry Chief on Nov 20, 2009

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this movie is going to be awesome. i can't wait

sam on Nov 20, 2009

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what makes me laugh is alot of white people here are outraged about a black man playing a white character. but when it comes to Asian characters or other races when white actors play Asian they all say they dont look Asian in the Anime LOL i.e. Goku, Aang from the Last Airbender, etc.

@Phil

I guess you are a BNP supporter

lucas on Nov 20, 2009

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@26 Phil

so are you going to boycott Prince of Persia and The Last Airbender then cause it been played by white American actors

tazz on Nov 20, 2009

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Seriously - where was this ourrage when hollywood routinely casted whites in roles that called for native americans and hispanics?

Look, Marvels Asgardians aren't based on Norse culture - stick with me a minute. Sure Stan and Jack stole the charcters and settings from Norse lore but when they re-created them for the Marvel universe, the Asgardians became an ancient/alien race that visited Midgard (Earth) and were mimiced and worshipped by Northern Europeans. The Gods themselves aren't even technically human, so to be all bent about Branagh being blind to color and going with the right actors is silly. In the Stargate universe, Thor is a grey-skinned alien - doesn't mean he couldn't have visited Northen Europe way back and end up deemed a god because of his tech.

Last point, since when do you have to be the same race as your God/deity to be a believer? I've never heard anyone argue that Jesus was asian but I've met a lot of Asian Christians. For all we know, the beings that actually inspired the Norse pantheon were all Black.

Uriah on Nov 20, 2009

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#26

as much you dont like the casting you dont have to be a f-ing dick. "Multicultural garbage" whats that all about i guess you live in your backward racist world Phil. how comes no one complain that in 300 all the actors are been played by British actors instead of Greek actors. what about Clash of the Titans Sam Worthington is playing Perseus. or even Alexa Davalos shes playing Andromeda if you know the history of Andromeda shes the daughter of Cepheus and Cassiopeia, king and queen of the kingdom Ethiopia. Greek mythology, Ethiopia (or Aethiopia), literally meaning 'the land of burnt faces'. Its inhabitants were described as being black and or swarthy with curly or woolen hair. so Andromeda should of been played by a black woman istead of of a white actress but no one have not said anything about that.

blaze on Nov 20, 2009

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I thought Michael Clarke Duncan was an awesome Kingpin, hell he was the best part of the movie…so may be this cat can be just as good.

Colt on Nov 20, 2009

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Can't believe I'm gonna say this, but I kinda prefer my Asgardians pasty white folk.

Idris Elba is a good actor Stringer Bell and all that, but yeah this is Norse mythology we playing with here. I couldn't abide a white Black Panther so I ain't feeling a Black Heimdall

PimpSlapStick on Nov 20, 2009

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Hummm….as a black guy I must say this…this is Marvel-Norse mythology we're gonna be subject too…sooooo…artistic discretion is a director's right when making a film about any subject. I believe he choose him because simply he was the right choice for the role. Remember kids: a role is never black/white/Asian/female or otherwise. If the right actor is hired for the part, then the right actor was hired for the part male or female.

Plus as I said…this is Marvel-Norse. They've taken liberty on all things gods and divine to build their universe and mythos. If an actual Thor movie was made and based on actual myth…Thor has no beard, no real armour, is a redhead and wields a hammer that comes back to him and shoots lightning. His strength is immense but not limitless. The history channel did a docu on him in their series ” Clash of the Gods ” you should all see it.

Hence forth, remember…roles are blank in movies until the right actor comes along and blows you away…so far the casting in this movie is of mammoth Shakespearian calibre and all actors…are the right actors for their roles.

I hope this stems the discussion to a halt and let us wait in anticipation for a teaser in 2010 my Viking battle brothers.

P.S. I hope their's gonna be Valkyrie action like we've never seen!!!

*Everything is Metal*
-Nathan Explosion, DETHKLOK

Lazarus from Sparta!!!! on Nov 20, 2009

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Hm…odd choice for a great actor. I guess the fact that vikings were indeed racist themselves will not be a slice of the movie, much like japaneese conciders all non-japaneese gaijin. But hey, its a comic book, its Marvel and ifact its Disney now.

I…really am not looking forward for this….those horrible tv-movies with Thor in them…that (funny) baby-sittermovie 'Adventures in Babysitting'( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnTpR4M1ZI ) with Thor(Vincent D'Onofrio) in it……the Metal band Thor( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHxOi2ntKaU&feature=related )…all springs to mind….hard to wipe that out and trying to like the new Thor

I'm a huge fan of Kenneth Branagh's work, but this does seem an odd choice for him. Guess he has bills to pay aswell.

David Banner on Nov 20, 2009

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@Lazarus from Sparta!!!! yeah viking action overdose!!!
no white guy for shaft
no white guy fpr black panther
and im pissed too that the airbender is white, and im white myself!!!
www.iwantgoodcasting.com

yojoe on Nov 21, 2009

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hold on people some people are upset about this casting but havent we seen white actors been playing asian and other races too and no one complain.

plus have you guys seen BBC tv series "Merlin" that is based on the Arthurian legends it features a black actress Angel Coulby as Guinevere and she's a good actress.

Angel Coulby as Guinevere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccaxMDQQGlc

movieboy on Nov 21, 2009

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@32

He can be,the first Captain America was black.

Terry B on Nov 21, 2009

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@46

The first Captain America wasn't black. The fact they retcon over 60 years of Captain America history was lame despite Truth: Red, White & Black being a good read. It made an interesting Elsewhere/What If? type story but making it officially part of the Captain America lore was one of Joe Q's many mistakes. Of course this opinion will brand me a racist by most people who think they are high-minded if they just accept something because it's PC.

As to the casting of Idris Elba as Heimdall I think it's a poor choice and stunt casting. The Asgardians/Aesir Gods in Marvel are of Nordic characteristics except for Hogun who Stan Lee long ago established wasn't of Aesir origin.

Quasimofo on Nov 22, 2009

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cant wait to see Thor , all this leading up to The Avengers that will kick ass , Thor ( Chris Hemsworth ) , Iron Man ( Robert Downey Jr ), Hulk ( Edward Norton ), Captian America ( ? ), Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson ), Nick Fury ( Samuel L. Jackson ) , and more maybe added , sounds like one hell of a movie to me …

i love the way marvel is linking all the separate films to one big movie
nick fury and shield in all films , caps shield in iron man , stark in hulk , Super-Soldier serum ( put on ice ) in hulk , cap in ice on deleted scene in hulk etc..

cant wait to see Thor and Iron Man 2 Links to Avengers

Captain America movie needs to get a move on !

Paul t on Nov 22, 2009

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@47

so you saying having Idris Elba is a stunt casting instead of judging his acting ability. so i guess The Last Airbender, Prince of Perisa are stunt casting too. also none of the actors in Thor are not even Nordic anyway. Thor in Norse mythology has red hair and he got a beard plus he rides a chariot. Marvel Thor movie has blonde hair, no beard, he flys, he got no chariot, and it stars a Australian actor Chris Hemsworth.

if you are saying its a stunt casting you should also complain about Agent Zero in X-Men Origins: Wolverine been played by Korean-American actor Daniel Henney. Agent Zero in the comics is not Asian his German did it bother anyone "no it dont".

or what about Greek mythology, Andromeda is actually black shes from Ethiopia (or Aethiopia) meaning 'the land of burnt faces', the inhabitants were described as being black and or swarthy with curly or woolen hair. the reason why shes always painted white on painting and statues is because back then a black person was not consider beautiful.

so i guess you might aswell also complain about Clash of the Titans poor choice and stunt casting too cause Alexa Davalos who is a white actress is playing black Ethiopian princess Andromeda.

tonyD on Nov 22, 2009

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@49

If you read what I said again you would see I was basing my opinion on the appearance of the Marvel comics characters that have been established for close to 50 years and not just on how they appear in Norse mythology.

Quasimofo on Nov 22, 2009

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Quasi isn't racist, just a little closed minded. Truth added to Captain America lore - it didn't detract. Adding this layer made the super soldier program more realistic, as it is historic fact that experimental drug testing on African Americans was common in the 30s and 40s. Plus it gave us a cool new character and potential future successor to Captain America in Patriot, Elijah Bradley.

I'm Black but would have made a stink if Thor, Odin or Loki were cast with ethnic actors because they are main characters. At the end of the day, people aren't going to see this movie for Heimdall or Hogun - they are second string characters that fans who don't read Thor even recognize. As a 20+ year Thor reader, I can say with certainty that I've waited over 2/3 my life to see THOR on the big screen - all the supporting characters are tasty icing.

Uriah on Nov 22, 2009

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Excellent choice for a Nordic God.

Vazel on Nov 22, 2009

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@50

yes ok the character was established about 50 years but still whats the big deal we have not even seen a trailer or the movie yet. did it upset when Agent Zero was played by a Asian-American actor instead of Russian.

what made me mad was your comment saying Idris Elba is a "stunt casting". so i guess all the white actors that been playing asian characters on film are "stunt casting" too. i hope when you see the white actors in Avatar Last Airbender playing asian character i personally hope you man up and say thats "stunt casting" too.


@51

i dont think Quasimofo is racist

tonyD on Nov 22, 2009

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Quasimofo

In what way was making Red,White,and Black a mistake.Plus there have been plenty of times where they go back and redo things in comics.Like Black Cat being raped for example.

Terry B on Nov 22, 2009

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Why not have a black man play Heimdall? The United States currently has a black man acting as President.

Heimdall on Nov 23, 2009

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I'm sorry, but I am going to have to side with the people who are questioning this, whether their motives are racist or not. I do agree that those of African decent and other minorities have been shafted when it comes to roles over the years, but I still believe you must cast to fit the role. If a characters race is not really integral to the character, then sure, cast whoever is the best actor, no matter the race. Thus, I do not have a problem with Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury. I would however have a problem with a white Shaft. Being black is integral to the role of playing Shaft. And I do have a problem with whites playing minorities in many movies IF the characters race is an integral part of the character's identity. Having David Carradine play a Tibetan monk in Kung Fu is the most notorious example. That sucked bad.

However, here we are talking about Norse Gods here. They are white, because the people who invented them imagined they were similar to them. There were no (few?) blacks in ancient Scandinavia. Likewise, I would be equally perturbed at some white guy playing one of the seven Chinese gods in a movie. I don't buy the whole Marvel universe cop-out either. I am a huge Thor fan, and the whole the gods are aliens thing is largely disregarded in the books. They are white in the comics for the same reason they should all be white here. They are Norse gods. Being white is a part of their identity, and for them not to be requires a greater hurdle in the universal goal of suspending disbelief…immersion in the story. This is not a racist stance, and if you believe that anyway, that is your opinion. This is me wanting this movie to be the best that it can be, because I love Thor.

Burning_Tyger on Nov 24, 2009

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It's just an odd casting choice for a character that is based on Norse mythology and will get a WTF? reaction from most movie goers.

I think my problem with Truth: Red, White & Black is that people are now using it to justify casting a black actor like Will Smith the play Captain America. And think it's insulting that when people disagree with that casting they are being labeled closed minded bigots or racists.

@54
I hated how they made Black Cat a victim of rape to explain her actions.

Quasimofo on Nov 25, 2009

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It's amazing how theres a big noise when a non white actor is cast in a traditionally white role. But nobody says anything if a caucasian actor is cast in a role not meant for a white person. Seriously…Jake Gyllenhall is the "Prince of Persia?" I would have hoped we had moved passed this bullshit but plain and simple…it is ignorance, not always racism. Let the best ACTOR period play a role! In today's society with changes being made everyday please try and get your minds out of the cinematic dark ages and wait until a movie comes out and judge it then!

Dex on Nov 26, 2009

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From a popular encyclopedia site:

"Heimdall (Old Norse Heimdallr, the prefix Heim- means home, the affix -dallr is of uncertain origin)(lol, dallr means valley, so 'Homevalley' is not too wrong-David Banner) is one of the Æsir (gods) in Norse mythology, called the "whitest of the gods".

He's known as the "White God", maybe due to the fact he's sorta in limbo, standing at the end of a rainbow bridge and the sun doesnt shine on his face, he's infact unhealthy in a way. Or something like that. He's the only norse god that is deathly pale and this is mentioned each time he is mentioned in the saga.

Irony, irony, bad casting, bad casting?

Feel like I shouldnt add fire(?) to the fuel but why not follow the saga and the characters as portrayed? Then again, its a comic, its Marvel, infact its Disney.

David Banner on Nov 26, 2009

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Okay, let me put this in simple terms.

White people playing non-white characters in movies is wrong and insulting to all involved.
Non-white people playing white characters in movies is wrong and insulting to all involved.

These idiots here squeaking about "Last Airbender" and "Dragonball Z" are forgetting something very important:

Heimdall IS A NORSE GOD, he was sacred to our ancestors, THIS IS NOT "JUST" A COMIC BOOK CHARACTER. There is no such thing as a "Marvel" adaptation of the Norse gods, Heimdall is Heimdall, end of.

Hey, what if we cast a WHITE Buddha? Or a WHITE Shiva? Huh? What then?

This movie is politicaly correctness run amok, it's disgusting.

I'm ashamed at all the brainwashed and timid little fools here actually endorsing this choice. Have you no pride in your ancestors and their sacred myths? Why are you all so weak? Stand up, say NO, this is NOT acceptable, and I WILL boycott this anti-White racist film.

TheNetSurfer on Nov 27, 2009

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By the way, I noticed there are quite a few people who disagree with this choice based on the comments. The problem is they always put the old "I'm not racist, but" thing in their comments…

Guys, you don't need to say that, wanting to have your culture NOT trampled on isn't racist. You've just been bullied into thinking anything race related is automatically racist because you're White, well, that's a bunch of bull.

Stand up, tell everyone you know that you think this choice is un-acceptable and insulting. Your ancestors will smile upon you for growing backbones. =)

TheNetSurfer on Nov 27, 2009

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ben kingsley as Ghandi gets best actor?

But a black man cant even play some small ass character with all of 2 lines prolly right?

Eat a dick and die slow you double standard having KKK mother fuckers.

9mm on Dec 1, 2009

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Cody is funny as fuck. and Stringer Bell is d SHIT. anybody catch Daddy's Little Girls?

Cyfer on Dec 2, 2009

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Oh racism, what problems you have created.

The problem here is that there IS a logical objection to a black actor playing a white god, but there is also an illogical, racist objection to the same, and it's nigh impossible to tell if an objector is racist or logical.

The other problem is that diversity has become so celebrated that it's become ingrained the same way racism is/was, and thus it becomes illogically supported across the board, and despite being a generally good ideal, it shouldn't necessarily be applied absolutely everywhere without thought.

Sure, it may be insulting to my religion and the religion of my ancestors, but if we Ásatrúar are that thin-skinned about our faith we're committed to a life of anger. I highly doubt a black actor portraying the "whitest" (which may be metaphorical and not as literal as people are taking it) of the gods is going to be the most inaccurate or insulting thing in this "superhero" movie about one of our cherished deities.

What makes me angrier/sadder is people saying things like, "But Asgard is a made up place."
My response to that is "FUCK YOU SO IS HEAVEN."
Which I apologize for, it's just that the pitiful amount of respect and recognition Ásatrú receives gets to me sometimes.

As for boycotting the movie, I'm certainly not going to in the hopes that it will be a relatively accurate and cool portrayal of a topic I'm interested in. I'm sure these hopes will be smashed and I'll leave angry, but hey, I'm still gonna see it.

Norseman on Dec 2, 2009

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Norseman, VERY WELL SAID. You make some very valid points.
I ,being of black and filipino heritage, have found myself deeply interested in mythology of other origins ever since collecting Marvel books as a child.

My question good sir (and this is not asked with the intent to draw you into an argument, but instead to satisfy my own personal curiosity) if a soul were to show honor, courage and mettle..then could it be said that soul would be welcome in Valhalla…no matter the color skin?

This is how I view Valhalla myself.
Nevermind the color of a mans face but rather the color of his soul.

Just sharing my thoughts.

Cyfer on Dec 2, 2009

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While not having Read every post here. I am a Scandinavian immigrant, and also a Germanic Heathen. Let me point out that people still follow the old viking religions. Just because we don't want to see a Black Guy as Heimdall doesn't make us racist. This is most of the White western world's heritage, and it's pathetic to see Marvel bastardize and disrespect it anymore than they have for the past 40 years. A black man playing a Norse God is ridiculous, even from a non-religious Standpoint the Norsemen had never even encountered Africans. I disagree with the entire Alleged Casting of this movie. They could have cast this man as someone different if they didn't want people bitching about the lack of Black Actors in it, why a Norse God?

To all these people crying Racism, screw you. How would you like to have your Heritage altered? I've never been a huge fan of the Thor comics, until the most recent ones because Marvel has a complete disregard for the Heathen community. You don't see them Making a Comic about Jesus Parading around fighting space aliens do you? It's an insult, and a backhanded one. Hopefully they don't go through with this crap. This Movie has such a poor cast listing, I don't know what i'm more Irritated about Thor as a Soap Opera Pretty Boy, or Anthony Hopkins as Odin.

To the poster Above me, your View of Valhalla doesn't change Norse Myths of Heimdall being white.

Skrýmir on Dec 28, 2009

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Can't believe they cast a moon cricket as Heimdall

Another typical hollyweird fuckup!

trev on Jan 1, 2010

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Burning_Tyger - you're a fucking IDIOT of the highest calibre!

trev on Jan 1, 2010