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oh and what's with the little rock headed dwarf that follows scotty....why?

Very Disappointing. The plot made no sense, it seemed like they just put in the story because you can't make a movie out of one big action sequence. It was basically a series of over caffeinated CG explosions strung together. It was like watching a little kid play with toy spaceships only with better effects. Thanks for making a Star Trek in the mold of a bad action movie Abrams, you can go jump in a lake.

Any haters out there don't know JACK about what they saw....In one word " TREKTASTIC ". It's a blend of old Trek story telling and J.J. Abrams surgical directing married with a sexy and smart script. The movie is perfect and is canon as of today! And for any Trekkie & Trekker out there that doesn't agree with this alternate timeline of Trek...One theory concerning this says " The original timeline isn't erased but does coexist with the new alternate timeline. Making all realities possible. Therefor, this Star Trek exist as the one B4 it " The movie has brought Star Trek to the forefront of true Space Opera on a level of Epic scale. Any true fan of sci-fi will see this movie merits and enjoy the new breath of fresh air given to the franchise.... Star Trek will be alive another 20+ years....and will just keep getting better...nuff said!

I have been waiting for this movie for many years. JJ Abrams has given us a Star Trek that I had imagined could someday be possible when I watched TOS when first broadcast in 1966, at age 11. The action, special effects, and all stage sets are totally believable and the acting is better than most if not all that preceded it. Having a young crew energizes the series and gives us a chance to grow with them for hopefully many more movies. Now that we have the talent and technology in place to produce such epic fun rides, the bigger challenge for the next voyages will be to create stories that are new, bringing us all to places that we've never been before.

Best. Space movie. Ever.

#10Best. Space movie. Ever....hmmmm. there's your problem right there people...Star Trek isn't just a space movie,but thats what people like you were going to see and exactly what you got. OMG!

Awesome movie. Very fun. Great reboot. People always going to fuss about something. "Oh no the dust on Vulcan was the wrong color this movie blows."

There's a case to be made about this being nothing more than big summer action popcorn Sci Fi space opera, unlike standard Star Trek, that was much deeper on a concept level. It's great entertainment. But so is Transformers. It's gonna be great to see a new wave of Star Trek, but i wonder how much of an impact will this movie have, if much of an impact at all, when we look back to it in 3 or 4 years time.

Trekkies..what a bunch of ...but that's not the point here Ain't seen this movie yet...why? well, not as if you would give a damn, but.. 1) i'm not a star trek fan. I really belive it's ridiculous, i LOVE Sci fi, but startrek is cheesy. Like stargate. And heroes. And..yea, you get the point. 2) i'm going to see it, on dvd when it cames out. 3) i belive there are other movies coming this year that are far better. no point going thru what i've experienced starting with matrix 3 and ending with watchmen (exiting the cinema with a bitter, bitter taste in my mouth, and it wasn;t the popcorn)...

LOVED IT. and the thing about it was, i wasnt going in with any set expectations besides explosions and maybe some over the top sillyness. But you know what I realised after a while? I was kinda on the edge of my seat, gradually at first but definitely thru the middle and final acts. Seriously. I mean I would love to see what they do with another one, with more tricks and development bits. Of course there is the one part i know people will criticise which is: spock appears right in time to wave the fire and save jim from the LOST PLANET monster? really? Now i dont care cuz that part was fine for me, the introduction was nice and early and every minute of dialogue between them - great. Plus it goes to show later how though kirk grew up differently, the seeds of his mischievous personality were still there - flourishing later with the "only 4% chance of success" "it'll work, dont worry!". yea loved it. I liked how they got a person for spock's dad, felt right. uhura is unreal hot. scene with spock and kirk about to transport and the quips, the chemistry building between them - great. Actually its not so much character development here besides simple foundation points, like bullet points, from which we can build upon. and to that end the only thing BUILT in an arc here is the relationship between spock and kirk, as a character itself. The look and feel was good too, didnt mind the lens flares and overall brightness, actually they make you get used to it early on and it gets paid off in the scenes so doesnt seem as random. Also the twists on the music I really liked, slightly different versions of the themes and melodies, so new but with some heritage. cool. Ok that's all I think it was well paced (need to see a second time to find out if the first half becomes tedious or not), found myself with adrenaline after it was done, somewhat exhilarated, and to me, thats what i pay to sit in a big theater for.

With full disclosure that I've never really been a Trekkie, I thought it was an amazing film. I loved it from start to finish - great effects, awesome performances and an interesting story. There wasn't a weak spot in the cast, although I did do a double take when I saw Tyler Perry and Winona Ryder. Karl Urban, Zachary Quinto and Simon Pegg were all standouts.

The true hallmark of the movie is clear...the writers & producers were dead set to get the blessings and the work ethic of Leonard Nemoy. He was so proud of the story he gave it the " Gene Roddenberry " approval the film needed. He takes Star Trek seriously. So if the original Spock can learn to pass the torch to the new " Original " Enterprise crew, then every Trek fan should have the same faith. And as I said B4...The 2009 is now Trek canon, but doesn't negate the previous canon. We are simply given a new lease on a 40 + year old sci-fi franchise that will inspire many to go...where no one has gone before! Live long and prosper!

didn't read your review, didn't read any comments, just came by via the RSS feed to say that I absolutely hate the fact that you run these things right before I get to see the movies. Most of us have day jobs man, why the hell are you spoiling it for the rest of us? "now that you've seen it?" are you out of your damn mind? only early viewers and critics have had the time to see it yet. Yes, I'm aware that it was released early in some places, but the vast majority of people will be seeing it tonight or tomorrow.

I LOVED IT!! The action. The Acting. The Music. I mean this is what cinema is all about!! I laugh also when I see people complain about no story or plot in movies that actually have one, the only reason why they say that is because they dont understand it. This had story and reestablished a new timeline for them to explore instead of remaking episodes from the old series. Im excited to see where this goes and I can't recommend enough to GO SEE THIS IN THEATERS!! You will not be disappointed.

Brilliant. This is exactly the kind of scifi we should get back to: character driven, intelligently written, action packed. I was skeptical at first about this movie (I HATE reboots), but the way in which they overcame that with the time-travel (a Star Trek staple) absolutely blew me away. It keeps the current continuity in play so that universe can continue untouched, while setting up a whole new series of events for modern audiences. Characters: I was amazed at how perfectly the actors captured the "spirit" of the characters, some more perfectly than others. I have totally reconsidered my opinion of Keith Urban after this - it was like watching a clone of Deforest Kelly up there. And yes, while Kirk seemed slightly offbase at first with his "Wild Ones in Space" attitude, by the end of the movie you realize that Kirk would have had to be that kind of arrogant d-bag to become the smooth, over-confident manly man he was in the original series and throughout the movie you definitely see this cocky rebellious farm boy become the Kirk we know and love. Story: Awesome. Never lulls, keeps at a strong pace throughout. There are a few things I didn't love (like Scotty's buddy), but it all pieces together to become something far greater than the sum of it's parts. JJ Abrams knows how to make a movie. It was smart, funny, and thrilling. Effects: Holy Motherf**king Sh**!!! This movie was everything that the Star Wars prequels SHOULD have been. The space ship battles were breathtaking, and I don't mean that in some weak half-handed complimentary kind of way. I mean that they literally made me hold my breath at times. I expected the same kind of Star Trek fight as all the previous shows and movies and was blown away by how huge and visceral they were. THAT'S what a space battle should be. I would watch the movie a hundred times just for those scenes. All in all, I expected a lot from this movie because it was super hyped and I'm always super critical of remakes and reboots. I went in to this movie expected to rip it apart and nitpick it to death and I just couldn't. This is an amazing film. I plan on seeing it at least a few more times in theaters, buying it on DVD, telling friends to see it. It's funny... if you had told me ten years ago that I would come to despise everything to do with Star Wars and that I'd be this excited about a Star Trek movie, I would have laughed in your face. But that's where we are - Abrams has pulled off an amazing feat and made an exciting, fan-appreciative, intelligent science fiction movie that non-fans can still watch, understand, and love. 10/10

Some of the best casting ever. I am very eager to see more movies with this group of actors. I'm not a Trekkie and I really enjoyed this. Lots of fun, great visuals, emotional in some parts, exciting, and a nice line of appropriate comedy throughout. I'm recommending to friends.

Pretty dang good. Was by no means uber-great. A bit too much "cheesy/silly" for my taste in scifi (esp. Trek - the seriousness is why it's so geeky!!) Perhaps the sequel(s) will be a bit more un-silly/cheesy. Just mho. My copyrighted trademarked new name for this movie is.... Lost in Star Trek. Reminded me lots of Lost in Space (the movie), some Lost thrown in there, and a lot of Trek. Ah, and the whole... jettisoning the warp core(s) to escape the black hole... too much and too far off canon. All nitpicking though really - first movie I've seen in quite a while that I'd consider seeing again in the theater. Wonderful job JJ & cast. REALLY looking forward to the sequel now that the introductions are out of the way. More ship to ship combat hopefully.

The movie was great and can't wait to see it again. There will always be nitpickers no matter how well the movie is made. They just live a sad life and want to bring everyone down with them.

You all need your hearts spoon fed to ya..the movie was not a fan film. Spocks character although well played was not who Spock was. We love Spock because he was Vulcan and they took that away from him with the seen in the lift with Uhura.

It was really, really good and laid all the ground work for Star Trek to continue. J.J. Made a very successful reboot a film I thought was great for the whole family. I honestly seen one thing that I wouldve worked on and that was the fight choreography on the drill you can see Kirk and guy just holding each other. LOL. But fantastic movie a must see.

It was amazing. I am not a big trek fan and never saw it in its heyday, but watching lenard nimoy act as spock...he was born for that role. As for the whole plot, in the beginning i didnt know if they could pull it off, it seemed a little far fetched. But in the end i was completely convinced that they could do that and pull it off which they did. I'm gonna go see it again and again and again.

If you haven't seen it, go and enjoy it! If you saw it and didn't like it, watch some classic Trek and then see it again. There was one moment when Zachary Quinto looked exactly like young Nimoy when he was kneeling down and beaming onto Vulcan. I could not tell it wasn't him. Uhura was NOT a slut. How anyone could think that is beyond me. Spoiler******Do not read further if you haven't seen it*********She never did anything more than kiss. Sheesh. This movie gave her more intelligence and expertise than her counterpart. She is the one who backed up Kirk due to her diligence and because of her speaking up, they listened to his theory that it was a trap. I'm a woman and I thought she was awesome. What legs, too! I think people may need to re-watch some of the old t.v. shows to get all of what they pulled off in this movie. At many of the classic lines, the audience did not seem to get it. It was amazing and better than all of what came before it. The director really did quite a job. The use of music was interesting especially in the opening sequence at a very tragic moment. I went to a 7 p.m. showing on May 7th. Most people didn't know it came out on Thursday. There were no posters and nothing on the outside to indicate it was playing. I look forward to watching the DVD for the deleted scenes and director and cast commentary. Well done and good job to the many people who worked on this movie. I stayed through the end credits to see if there was anything extra. Besides dedicating it to the Roddenberrys (which I would have liked at the beginning), there were no extra scenes or any other treat at the very end. All in all, it did what movies are supposed to do and then some. I look forward to the next ones.

# 44 – I totally agree! She was far more intelligently represented in this film. Back in the old days (before) the movies, she was often just a woman on the bridge, they brought her in and made her more of the crew. I like her movie persona better then her TV persona.

The movie looks good but why in God's name did Abrams choose an Englishman to play Scotty? I love Simon Pegg as an actor but his accent is absolutely terrible. It ranks alongside Dick Van Dyke's cockney accent in Mary Poppins. With so many good Scottish actors out there I can't see why they employed an Englishman.

#48 News Flash – James Doohan wasn't Scottish either. But, his accent WAS miles better.

@ el rolio - absolutely - the new warp transition is indeed epic. Talk about sense of urgency - sheesh!!

It was enjoyable...I do feel slightly underwhelmed, but I enjoyed it enough to think about watching it again to see if my reaction is the same. I was really excited about seeing this too...

#53 thats classic...its all love baby!!my friend was in this movie so I don't completely hate it. He was one of the Romulans during the drill fight.His name is Damion Poitier (yes he's related). He's a great stunt guy. Anyway...one question...Star Trek is sci fi,but it has always been deeply rooted in fact so tell me this*****SPOILER ALERT******If a black hole is so powerful that not even light can escape it how THE HELL did they just jettison some of the engine core and free themselves when black hole have been devouring galaxies for eons? And why are Vulcans depicted in this movie as being racist? when we all know they hold positions in Starfleet a multinational alliance?****DRINKS ROMULAN ALE****BURP!!! tell me that. J.N.L

Star Trek sucks. The Millenium Falcon can kill that piece of crap ship. Why did they even bother to make this movie. Hahaha. No im joking. Im excited to see this movie when i get back. Does anyone have a non bias point of view on this movie though?

@ #56 - Black hole... until you enter the event horizon of a black hole/singularity (defined as the edge of a black hole where gravity is powerful enough that light cannot escape... essentially, where the black hole appears "black"), then you can indeed "escape" a black hole, as long as you are traveling faster than the escape velocity at that particular point away from the black hole... I guess they jettisoned the engine cores to give them that extra "push" to escape! Me - I enjoyed the film greatly! Definitely not the Star Trek of "old"... the fresh make-over job was welcomed and refreshing, dropping some of the old baggage, injecting a new and different interpretation of the Star Trek mythos, and updating the way the Star Trek movies have been traditionally made (particularly in set design and special effects)... JJ did a good... Although as a Trek fan, I must admit it came as a surprise as to how Sulu pulled off that spin-jump-kick thing on the drill considering that Vulcan's gravity is much higher than Earth's! (yeah, that's just the fanatic fanboy inside me being nitpicky!)

Awesome, and I love that little green dude he made me laugh.

#48 They used a Canadian to play Scotty for like.............a Zillion episodes, didn't that bother you.

For all of you out there who are continually bashing Spock for having emotions, cram it. This is an ORIGIN story. Spock deals with his emotions multiple times throughout the original series and the original six films (all great). Don't forget, he's half human, so he will always carry those emotions and at one point wil inevitibly make the choice to suppress them completly. Don't forget that Spock's father Sarek, had an emoptional lapse to get in bed with a human women in the first place. Some of you folks sound like your picking at it for the sake of picking at it, beacuse you are in the closet about how awesome this is. I haven't seen it yet, going tonight. Will post something afterwards.

Just like "Iron Man" did last year which set the bar for the Summer season. J.J. Abrams is BRILLIANT! Star Trek was just amazing. The writing, the acting, the directing, the editing......just feck'n AMAZING. We left the theatre with huge smiles on our faces. ( always the meter for a fine film). And the lens flares were a perfect addition....PERFECT! Going back again to IMAX on Monday! And as a mature adult born with the orginal, this could not have been better. BAD ROBOT stikes again!

PS....The SLUSHO reference brought a cheer from alot of us who knew what was up!

I've seen all of the Trek shows and films. The stuff the crazy fanbois are whining about show they are just stupid fanbois. There is nothing wrong or bad about young Spock here, in fact it was a perfect show of not only Spock's emotion control issues but also that of all Vulcans. Remember that the most natural Vulcans are the emotional warring Romulans. Vulcans are extremely emotional and that is WHY they spend their lifetimes suppressing or struggling to suppress their natural volatility. Regarding escaping the blackhole. The rode/surfed the blastwave of an anti-matter explosion there...right or wrong, believable or not, that's what occurred (since a couple people appear confused).

#71 DON'T WORRY I WILL! THAT'S A PROMISE!

Urgh, that should've read "silliness" instead of "sillyness". Edit button, please. Anyways. Does anyone know what the Battlestar Galactica reference was? I tried looking for it, but didn't notice anything like that. Oh yeah, the sound fx for jumping into warp was fantastic. Can't wait to hear it in my home theater! I also loved the new transporter visual fx.

This flick KICKED ASS! All in all, perfectly cast, great effects, well written, and awesomely directed. A VERY worthy mention of Leonard Nimoy in a small, but pivotal role was outstanding. I loved it! I'm checkin' this out again!

Just saw it. Loved it. As good of an origin story as can be. There are a couple of plot holes, but overall, this is a fantastic start of a new vision for the Star Trek universe. I really enjoyed how Abrams and company brought the core crew together. The fx were top-notch, also. I liked the original series as a kid and kept up with it through it's various incarnations over the years, with the exception of Star Trek: Voyager. That one never appealed to me. Without a doubt this movie feels so fresh and left me with such a feeling of relief that a lot of the old baggage was jettisoned. It's like a breath of fresh air. For those of you whining about Spock not being the Spock you knew, this is an ORIGIN story and an alternate ORIGIN story, at that. The relationship between Uhuru and Spock threw me for a loop at first, but, hey, you never know. It could have been worse if they'd followed the cheesier path and had her and Krik hook up. I'm definitely going to see it again and urging my friends to see it, also!

very entertaining .. I will probably watch it again

the time travel allows for a lot of changes within the characters, like Kirk, that i really enjoyed. this new Kirk is more of a bad-ass of sorts (not that Shatner's version wasn't oozing with personality) but it allows JJ to reinvent his characters... i personally loved it. cant wait for #2!

It will forever and always be fracking AWESOME!!! I can't wait to see where they take the series now.

Gees J.N.L sounds like an angry man! I'm a Trek fan and if you watch the 1980 version of Star Trek The Motion Picture it will show Spock on a far away Vulcan planet where he is spending his time trying to find Pure Logic. This is because Spock is half human and he was trying to shut off this part of him. If you also recall when he did return to the Enterprise in the same movie Kirk and the crew were trying to welcome him to the ship but he showed no emotion like he was almost insulted for people being happy to see him. One of the female characters said, "It's how we feel Spock". So for Spock to feel or show some emotion in the PREQUEL makes perfect sense according to the above. All I can say is relax J.N.L, it's a movie not world politics, sit back and enjoy it for what it is.

Loved it, can't wait to see it again! Star Wars Episode 1 (Jar Jar) = Utter Shit. Star Trek Episode 1 ( JJ edition ) = EPIC as FUCK.

it was amazing but i hated that every second like half of kirks and spocks face was covered with like beams of light

Brilliant - went along for the ride and enjoyed every minute! Devoted Trekkie.

I saw it yesterday and lurved it! I was so surprised to see it come out a day early at my theater. I actually squeeled. Anywho. It was a lot more funny than I expected. And the lens flares, after being distracted the first few scenes I saw it, didn't bother me a bit. It just looked pretty.

Well, I can see a lot of people liked it, which is great because SOMEONE should be entertained. I certainly wasn't one of them. Below is my honest opinion. Respond as your maturity level allows. ----- Fast-paced action and stellar effects will undoubtedly win over a new generation of fans, but Paramount's attempt to reboot a depleted franchise fails to prune away the very elements that led to its ruin. The greatest strength of the new STAR TREK lies in its casting, particularly Zachary Quinto as Spock, credibly and literally standing alongside the character's originator, Leonard Nimoy. If Spock is the super-ego of the Enterprise, James T. Kirk is its id. Chris Pine brings all the bravado of the legendary captain yet the script neglects to probe his psyche with any care. Karl Urban nails the part of Dr. McCoy, the ship's ego. Urban channels the spirit of the original McCoy, DeForest Kelley, while bringing new and fresh elements of his own. Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman beautifully present Spock's struggle with his own humanity in ways not previously seen in the character. An overused plot device is employed brilliantly, re-imagining the franchise without ignoring everything that came before. Unfortunately, that's about all the innovation this story can provide. While the original series mined the innovative talents of Hugo award-winning writers, Orci and Kurtzman fall back on the tired conceits of Trek's lesser series, creating black holes in the narrative bigger than those on screen. Plot contrivances and implausible scenarios abound. And even when played with passion and gusto by Eric Bana, Captain Nero is just another cookie-cutter villain seen countless times before. With his television background, director J. J. Abrams seems unable to transition to the big screen. Despite a huge budget, his film plays like a glorified television show. His Enterprise bridge is reminiscent of the Apple store at the mall and engineering, shot in a brewery, looks like one. While allowing for minute character development, Abrams warps past every moment that might hold a modicum of psychological weight. As a result, the Federation feels small, the galaxy feels small -- indeed, history itself feels small. STAR TREK is a hyperbolic experience capable of attracting Paramount's target demographic and mildly entertaining even to those who desired so much more.

There's a lot of love and hate here for this movie which is to be understood. If everyone liked the same movie I guess we would all be the same and that would be boring. I really hated Wolverine but I'm not going to make fun of those that liked it. And the same goes here. I really loved this film. I went in with an open mind and for two hours I got to watch cinema at it's best. This movie entertained and that's why we go to the movies. The last Star Trek film "Nemesis" was a very weak movie and this has brought Trek back to it's former glory. Thankyou JJ Abrams. You did a fantastic job.

HEY PARAMOUNT....YEAH YOU....TELL YOUR CRONIES ON PAYROLL TO GO HOME AND STOP BLOGGING...SOME OF THE REAL FANS WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THIER VIEWS ON THIS FLICK. THATS RIGHT I SAID IT...I KNOW THAT FS HAS BEEN PAID OFF DONT WORRY PARAMOUNT YOU"LL MAKE YOUR NUMBERS THIS WEEKEND NO MATTER WHAT I SAY.I STILL SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OPINION!!!! J.n.l.

#98 YOU ROCK...LETS WRITE THE A MOVIE!!!

#98 WHATNOT...THANK YOU

J.N.L, you have a lot to say here. If you can't say what you need to say in one paragraph, then you shouldn't bother. People will not listen to you. You where the first to give your view on this film and you obviously were annoyed at certain aspects of it. I won't judge you on your findings as I wouldn't with anyone else, because I believe that everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, but seriously man make one comment and leave it at that. If someone says something against you don't take it to heart. It is after all just a movie and your letting others get to you.

Mr. Abrams, I applaud you. It was a fine film and one both myself and my 10 year old son enjoyed.

I mean now its like star trek IV the voyage home never happened and star trek 3 where they bring spock back to vulcan in the klingon bird if prey. and then star star trek 4 on the planet vulcan with the klingon bird of prey and of course spocks mom is there for his re-training so these great movies never happened??? JJ abrams LOST!!!!!

The acting and the CGI were excellent! And kudos to J.J. and the crew for the sound. From the sound of the Federation starships going to warp speed to the Enterprise fireing her wepons, the sound was simply awesome. Also the new sound effects for the phasers was a very nice update. During a certain phaser shoot-out the shots hitting the walls gave a very hard hitting and satisfying feel to the classic Star Trek weapon. Next up?.........IMAX!!!!

Hit it this afternoon with my 8 year old son. Loved it. The plot is oddly simple and complex at the same time. Karl Urban as Bones was a show-stealer, as was Simon Pegg as Scotty. Quinto and Pine were both excellent as well. Bruce Greenwood as Christopher Pike...now THIS universe has the esteemed Captain fulfilling a much more deserved destiny. And Leonard Nimoy...what can I say? Simply amazing. A wonderful homage to all that *was* Trek, and a beautiful new beginning...and a great vehicle to aid in teaching my son about leadership...Oh, to be Captain of a Starship, even just for 12 minutes...

Ok...I'll leave out the trekkieness as I'm still torn because of it. Yeah, it was good, but as a minor trekkie, it sucked. So...yeah. Still better than Wolverine anyway you look at it though. The flares were too much. My word they were over the top and sometimes didn't even make sense. Using cameras a lot, there were flares JJ just felt like using IMO. He got flare happy. Everything else has to do with the plot and how he fucked it up to the nth degree. But now he can do whatever he wants with Star Trek as it's on a whole new line.

It has grossed $7M on Thursday night. And it grossed $26 million on Friday!!! SOURCE: http://theboxofficejunkie.com/2009/05/friday-estimates-star-trek-captures-25.html Try to get as many people to see it this weekend as possible for a stellar opening weekend! If you want to see it again, don't wait...see it again this weekend. We need to send the signal to all involved that we want more Star Trek.

Good movie worth watching but two major flaws for me was the dayum Stone looking sidekick of Scotty. What a joke, reminded me of jar jar binks in a bad way. Chekov was the weak link in the whole ansemble. Just overly done! Other than that I thought the movie was awesome!

I just got back from the film. It was a good film, BUT for Trek fans who love the series and Gene, i came away disappointed to think Vulcan is gone!! It can’t be. All canon and Gene’s vision has been neglected. All trek fans must demand that the timeline is restored!!! What about Spock in the season 5 ep. reunification - what about the birth of Tuvok?? We must have vulcan back. THE TEMPORAL ACCORDS WILL HOPEFULLY RESTORE VULCAN - WE CAN'T WASTE 45 YEARS OF GENE RODDENBERRY'S VISION. THIS WOULD STILL ALLOW NEW FANS TO ENJOY STAR TREK WHILE NOT GETTING RID OF THE MILLIONS OF FANS WHO KEPT THE SHOW ALIVE. PLEASE FIX THIS IN THE NEXT FILM.

STAR TREK BLEW ME AWAY!!!! It was everything I hoped and dreamed it would be. It was action packed, sexy, and funny in all the right parts. <3

Very very Good! The film has got everything I wish for. I always thought previous Star Trek films had very low standards. This is just different The only flaw I see in the scrip/story is that I 've always seen Vulcans as Hi tech hierarchycal civilitation that helped humanity for their own interest. How come a vessel simply goes into vulcan orbit, throws a thing that drills into their planet without nobody putting up a fight?? That's the impresson you get from the film The same could apply for human earth. (yeah, yeah, even if nero got the frecuencies for the communications defense system blah blah) . At least a plane??? no? Anyway ,great film. I'd love to see more of this Kirk and Spock

Star Trek: it's not just for geeks anymore. I've seen my share of Star Trek but am by no means a Trekkie and I LOVED it! Great action, great effects, and the cast was outstanding. Chris Pine owns his pre-Shat Kirk. Yes, Tyler Perry was a bit distracting, as was the abundance of lens flare but the rest of the movie so overshadowed what few problems there were. I think J.J. Abrams has finally made a Trekkie of me.

I AM a Trekkie, not a Die Hard tho, in fact I dont have much love for the original series, although I do have a fondness for it. I grew up on TNG and DS9 and Voyager, after that I stopped watching. I thought this movie was generally good. Lets just say this, we went with 8 people, me and my dad, the trek lovers and my sisters, mom wife her friend and her boyfriend all people who have watched (mostly because the tv was monopolized ) the series, but dont *really* care too much about it and they all loved it, they couldn't stop talking about how cool it was, etc. Me and my dad just smiled and nodded, the Trekkie, smile and nod lol. I appreciate the affects, the casting, the vision but it just didnt have that ST feel to it. OK Im gonna be blunt here, while watching this is what I was saying to myself: The music is Star Wars... The space battles are Firefly/Serenity The story is weak. Wheres Earths Defenses? I mean a Mining Vessel cant be blown outta the Sky? Wheres Starfleet? No one called to say hey guys there's a chance Earth might get blown up. A drop of red matter makes a black hole yet they blew up like 500 gallons of it right over earth and nothing *bad* happened heh. Earths biggest Alley has been decimated... Earth/Starfleet is completely screwed. The one liners were I *think* ok I say think because of course the entire audience went crazy laughing when they happened so they really stood out as cheesy and I couldn't appreciate them like I should have been able to I think. The writers couldn't figure out how to save Vulcan like true star trek writers who know how to save the day? the 500 gallons of red matter couldn't have opened up a sick ass time warp that they could have somehow gone through and destroyed the mining vessel about to blow up Vulcan and save it then get sucked into another black hole and another until Scotty figures out how to blow them far enough back or SOMETHING c'mon! This might be nitpicking but it just didn't *feel* like Star Trek, but... for most people and many Trekkie's it was a good movie.

HEY 117 OBVIOUSLY you were not a trek fan before this one my message made perfect since in star trek 3 is where they take the klingon ship back to VULCAN with spock in tow so they can switch his brain and bones brain back where they belong!!!then at the start of star trek IV they are still on VULCAN at the start of the movie and spock is still re-training he's mind and he mother is there to remind him he is still half human and needs to embrace that!!!!that is why my message makes PERFECT since watch those 2 GREAT films and maybe you too will understand #117 WAKE UP as i said before JJ you were LOST!!he admitted he wasnt a star trek fan before and it shows yes the cast was FANTASTIC BONES was brilliant but killing spocks mom and destroying vulcan before they have even embarked on there 5 year mission "TOS" is just STUPID and makes no sense what so ever!!!! Thankyou!!!!

Yeah justin the movie was great but it wasnt startrek at all and to youre comment "they took everything that was and crumpled it up & threw it away, no longer restrained" yeah thats what they did they took everything that we knew up to this point and threw in the trash this is not his twilight zone like TV show "lost" this was supposed to be the begginging of startrek not jj's twilight zone version of it!!! i mean they visited vulcan in the original series and the movies just NON-SENSE great looking movie great cast DUMB story!!!!!such a shame to!!!Almost JJ Almost!!!

Ok...the soundtrack is sounding better....

I caught the 11 pm showing and the movie was thrilling right from the get go! I'd highly recommend sci-fi and non-trekkie fans to watch this movie. This movie met my expectations. [=

this movie was amazing....not just the action and adventure part of it, but the actors had you feel for them, like when spock lost his planet or when Kirks father drove into the ship in the beginning. The great script that was funny at times to lighten things up yet very serious all of sudden when things started getting serious. Overall, one of the better films i have seen this year.

I could not have said it any better than GERMAN JAKE you are so right this movie makes it so not only star treks 1 through 10 never happened but also erases the original series whichs vists vulcan and spocks mom it also erases the next generation which had several episodes concerning vulcan and spocks father who dies in the next generation timeline and his mother is there as well..and erases Deep Space Nine as well NEVER HAPPENED and Voyager !!!only the worst of the TV series is possible Enterprise!!!wow i wasted the better part of my life watching all that stuff that now never happened lol..... THATS why JJ is PERFECT for a show like LOST and maybe the LAST person for Startrek!!! Thanks....

#141, are you F**king kidding me. This movie was awesome. Maybe you should go and watch Star Trek Nemesis again and then come back and tell that this movie still sucks.

I just saw the movie tonight. I've never really watched the original series but Star Trek Voyager was a favourite show of mine. I really loved the movie . There's parts of it, little nitpicks, that I may have, but the movie was a blast! Btw, what is this big fuss over Matthew Perry? Was he the actor who played Spock's father? I thought he was fine. The comedic moments were hilarious and so was the action. As a science student I was a little inredulous at how they portrayed the black hole's relativistic effects (or lack thereof), but it was amazing action. Kirk was amazing, and it was so great to see John Cho & Simon Pegg playing some 'serious' roles (or at least more serious than their usual fare). Greatacting all around.

Some people were just so desperate for a new star trek that i guess you were willing to accept ANYTHING..this script is a CHILDLIKE Fantasy if they had to DUMB trek down this much then they should have just left it alone i mean for christs sake Spock and Uhura making out on the turbolift jeez they really were after a DUMBER audience and by the tone of the majority of this thread they found the braindead idiots they were looking for !!! Its all FLASH and no SUBSTANCE!!!! the way simple minds like it !!!

guess what sells tickets... obviously not your beloved sci-fi mumbo jumbo. It's an origins story, lets see what they do with a sequel.

JUST AWFUL. As a longtime Trek fan, and after seeing the positive critical reception, I went into this movie with high expectations. I came out thinking, what is everyone else seeing in this movie? As an action movie it's passable; but as Star Trek it's terrible! 1. The plot is weak. As another commenter said, it's a bunch of action scenes stitched together. Great effects, and the fights are well choreographed, but this is standard popcorn-action fare at best. I enjoyed Wolverine more (also a pretty mediocre movie) purely as a collection of fight sequences. 2. This isn't Star Trek at all, it's Starship Troopers. TOS is about the day-to-day business of running a starship in the midst of danger and the unknown. Too many of the Trek movies (this one included) are about saving the galaxy from the villain of the month. OK, maybe you need a big grandiose plot to fill up a two-hour movie, but come on. What's so great about the old Star Trek is that it's basically a procedural drama in space. They do the same thing from week to week. They follow their protocols, even when they're sailing beyond the edge of the galaxy, or some giant energy being is squashing their ship. They push human civilization out into the unknown. In this movie, some random villain we've never heard of (where the heck does he get all his resources and manpower anyway?) is turning the galaxy upside down for poorly explained reasons, and the whole thing runs from crisis to crisis and battle to battle at breakneck speed. A reasonable plot for an action blockbuster? Sure. Star Trek? Absolutely not. 3. They throw continuity out the window. I'm all for mind-bending time-travel plots, they're a staple of sci-fi. But I wanted to see the back story of the REAL Star Trek universe that I know and love. Here they use some time travel nonsense to invent a new universe where nothing is the way we knew it, or maybe it is or will yet be, who knows? OK, maybe this is a clever way to have their cake and eat it too by "paying tribute" yet starting over. But it also means that the real back story of the actual Kirk and Spock we watched on TOS (the one experienced by the ancient Spock in the movie) is still untold. When do we get to see that story? 4. Kirk and Spock act like idiots and spend most of their time onscreen together either posturing or beating the living crap out of each other. These are not the same people depicted in TOS and the movies. 5. The key plot elements are unoriginal. The villain and his plan are basically the same as Nemesis. The technology the villain uses to carry out the plan is basically the same as the Genesis device from ST II. The villain even uses the EXACT SAME METHOD THAT KHAN DID (which was cool and original way back in ST II) to force compliance from his prisoners! At least in Nemesis (and in ST II) they explained what the villain's technology was and where it came from. Here they rely on some random thing called "red matter." What the heck is that? 6. How is this movie supposed to be better than Nemesis? As noted above, the plot is similar. At least that one had our old friends Picard, Data, et al. acting like their old selves. This one had "Kirk" and "Spock" acting like jerks and beating each other senseless. 7. Nimoy appears, but he doesn't act like Spock; he acts like, well, Nimoy. He's all kindly and avuncular and smiling. He says all the gospel ("I have been and always shall be your friend"; "Space, the final frontier") but it feels hollow and totally unprepared. Nimoy's performance here suggests that when a Vulcan reaches the final wisdom and maturity of old age, he mellows out to the point where he becomes, well, human. That's totally contrary to everything that Spock stands for in the old show. 8. The Spock and Uhura thing was just creepy. 9. Simon Pegg is funny, but that's not how Scotty behaves. Watch the old episodes again. He's not some impish goofball. He's mostly serious with a flash of the childish prankster/troublemaker that comes out every now and then. 10. Since when does a Romulan warbird have all those crazy odd angles? On the outside it looks like Shinzon's ship (Nemesis again!) but on the inside it's transparently the work of a production designer who wanted lots of catwalks and ledges that Kirk and his enemies could jump around on, hang on to, and fall off of. I realize I'm in a tiny minority here, with most everyone else in the critical and public audience heaping praise on Abrams's achievement. But in my mind they've distorted Star Trek beyond recognition, cheapening and diluting it in an attempt to (re)create a brand with mass appeal. Ugh.

Why do Trekkers or whatever they're called have to be so damned nerdy???? Get over yourselves and have some fun. Remember that SNL skit with Shatner addressing Trek fans? He said, "Get a life." Great advice.

Intricate 157 are you serious it seems more like a child wrote that rubbish HOLES galore..

I heard that they will finally adapt "ESCAPE VELOCITY" since this is doing so well.

To #155, who wrote, "The science would make Steven Hawking roll around in his wheelchair in frustration and rage. Just ridiculous." If you want science, go see a documentary or stay home and watch PBS. Since when does kissing make a woman a whore? Did you think the green chick was Uhura? In THIS movie, did you see Uhura try to get Spock or anyone else in bed? It's "cease to exist" not "seize". I won't bother with all the other mistakes because your review was indeed boring. This movie was not. The high box office numbers tell us something that you missed.

at first i was very skeptical that they could pull this off, mainly due to changing the characters but also when i had been hearing that they were messing with "canon". but i was just amazed at how good this movie is and how great the next movies should be. hopefully a series is in the cards. star trek is born again!!!!!

#165, yeah I was thinking the same thing. I kept on getting confused because I could've swore they mentioned "Siberius" first then later changed to Tiberius... I just thought that was kinda awkward. Not a huge Trek fan myself, seen a couple episodes here and there and a couple of the movies... but I enjoyed this movie... a new style for a new generation.. can't wait for the next installments.

There is one thing I have to think about, hearing all those people brag about. Most of those who loved the movie but dislike the constructiv criticism from Trek fans say everything is alright becuz now it is just an alternate Universe (timeline). BUT, we were made to believe in the Media, in comercials and even the Tagline itself that this movie would show us how everything started. For Example: "Watch how the crew of the Enterprise meet for the first time..." "See how Kirk meed Spock..." "The Future begins..." (official tagline to the movie) when indeed all that was utter BS Lines should have been: "Watch the crew meet in an alternate universe, an alternate timeline, an alternate Enterprise..." "See Spock and Kirk meet in a different timeline under totally different circumstances..." "The alternate future begins" They made everyone believe that they would show us it actually started. What they really did was piss on everything that has been before or better was actually supposed to happen and threw it out the window. If paramount thinks they can just start everything new by giving us such a ridiculus excuse. Well, why dont they make it a crossover then as well, Lets have some Star Wars charactrers in there, or better have the Enterprise battle the Death Star. Hell, lets bring in Superman in case Nero comes back from another alternate universe with some badass green matter to help the other Nero finish his already explained totally useless rampage against Spock. Maybe some of the less ignorant people here get my point. In conclusion JJ Abrams and his useless writers and Paramount tricked Millions of Fans and others to go watch that movie when indeed all they did was create a cash mashine by hype and Media which doesnt stick to the old idea and message Star Trek always delivered. Its sad to see how low Hollywood has sunk in the last years as they dont have new ideas anymore. "We dont know what we should do next, so lets reboot all the stuff that was goin well in the past, but put some nice Apple style tuch on it and say its better, faster and original." WHEN ITS NOT Ive got 3 words for that: PATHETIC, REDICULOUS, OUTRAGOUS

#169 thank u my point exactly

I have some great more ideas: Lets make a new Lord of the Rings where Frodo dies in the first 20 minutes. He was kinda annoying anyways. (I bet Tolkin fans would love that) Let Vincent Vega survive Pulp Fiction, he was a cool dude. I would love ot see Marti McFly actully get the Sports Almanagh to the present. See him get rich as hell, make party like hell, f**k around all the time and eventually die of a drugoverdose. (lets call it Back to fear and loathing While were at it let Neo take the other pill and live his normal life. Let Indiana Jones become a dentist instead of an acheologist. He could search for bad teath instead. Sounds like a good plot. Sounds like great ideas for "Hollywould" I think. Maybe I should apply for a job as overpaid writer. I wonder what the writers were striking for when all they bring is crap.

why from Siberius to Tiberius? HUH....... WHY!!!!! alternate univese baby is the wave of the new generation...LOL cant wait to see the new predator..LOL!!

It seems that so many trekkies must not have seen TOS, that movie was just like TOS except more action! I mean the science wasn’t sound in TOS the plot holes were many in TOS & as far as an alternate universe, who cares. I do believe that if they could’ve TOS would’ve done the same and did on various occasions. just accept it for what it is not what you want it to be. Me im glad that they removed all the exposition. And made it fun again.

#172 Calibretto = = Love you're movie ideas i can imagine JJ is trying to find you now he needs some of that crap for ideas!!! if he remade any of those movies he would surely love those plot twists neo taking the blue pill of course and marty mcfly keeping the almanac its PURE JJ writing all over!!!LOL what a joke he made of trek and got all the mindless idiots to BITE sad!!!

It was exactlly what i thought it would be. Entertaining but nothing to get excited about. But at least Mr. Billington's life was changed by the umpteenth Star Trek movie. Luckily Leonard Nimoy showed up to save his role from being killed by Zachary Quinto. He tried way to hard

I bet that most of the people who loved the movie also loved Cloverfield. A movie which only lived from its hype. Which didnt deliver at all. Made me Seasick after 15 minutes in a fricken MOVIETHEATRE. Didnt give any explainations at all. And ended after 70 minutes. I actually consider this movie to be one of the worst if not the worst movie ever. I actually was in shock when I heard that Abrams would make a Star Trek reboot, but I gave him another chance. Shouldnt have done it though. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate JJ or anything. I actually am a huge fan of Lost and havent missed a single Episode. Yet I am a hundred percent sure that they wont answer merely the amount of question they put up over the years. Its still to be seen i guess. Abrams just doesnt deliver to all the expectations he raises by all the hype upfront. Its kinda sad all in all...

He didn't say Siberius, he said Tiberius, the kid just didn't say it very well. He's even listed in the IMDb credits as James T. Kirk.

The movie was decent, and I've got no problem with how any of the character's personalities were "re"-imagined. There were a couple of big problems for me. 1. Time travel--the most overdone theme in Star Trek series or movies. 2. Related to this J.J. Abrams completely shitting on 50 years of Star Trek lore. Seriously, you destroyed Vulcan AND Romulus in one fell swoop? Really? What the fuck were you thinking, dude?

is not what I hear, Jonah. Besides that...what is with your freaking obsession of an actor's kid's pronunciation?

Just saw it. Liked it. I'm confused about what people are complaining about. The movie was advertised as a complete reboot, so you KNEW things would be different going in. The fact that Abrams actually MAINTAINED the old continuity, while also establishing a new one, is more than you were promised. And anyone saying Uhura was a "dumb slut" or a "whore" seriously needs a wake up call. How is an accomplished military officer, who speaks multiple languages, who happens to be in a legitimate relationship, either dumb or promiscuous?

cast - no complaints, can't fault any performances, that's the casting process for ya. Story, they told one. lovely bit of escapism for my Saturday. Rebooted an existing franchise for a new audience so everyone could enjoy it $CAA-CHING$ If it's dead, leave it dead and put some effort into something totally new for the current generation to call their own. Think it could have worked as standard sci-fi without being star trek, but then might not have been hyped enough to attract an audience.

To Alex Billington (#7): Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post, it's nice to see the author of an article taking an interest in user comments. However, I stand by my statement that the plot made no sense, since that's what you decided to dispute in your post (by the way telling you're readers that they are too stupid to understand a plot if they didn't like it and you did, seems a tad big headed) . Here are a few of my basic problems with the plot (to be fair I'm leaving out the time travel paradoxes, many though they were, because all movies with time travel have them so it's to be expected). [**SPOILERS**] One, I thought it was stupid that the captaincy got thrown around so much. Kirk gets made first officer, then captain at no notice and for no good reason, not to mention that he's only a cadet. That makes no sense. Spock puts Kirk in an escape pod and ejects him from the ship just in time land on an ice planet so we can have a gratuitous monster chase scene (rather than say throwing him in the brig). Then Kirk by sheer happenstance meets future Spock AND Scotty on that very planet and uses a transporter to get back on the ship which is by this point quite far away (boy the transporter really seems to suck up until this point doesn't it? considering it took them 10 minutes to try to beam up Spock's mom so she could die). Character motives were very unconnected with their actions. Old Spock, gets Kirk to go back and be captain and make friends with young Spock by being a jerk to him (which somehow works) so they can go together and blow up Nero and Spock's from-the-future-black-holes-that-allow-time-travel-making ship rather than say bringing it back to Old Spock so he can use it to go back to the future (lol) and stop Nero from going to the past at all (perhaps by actually saving Nero's planet) thereby saving the lives of countless millions of people. But apparently either Old Spock is too stupid to figure this out or he has concluded: Screw em, this new time line is gonna be awesome and can no doubt make paramount a great deal of money. Also the bit at the end where they are using warp speed to keep out of a black hole and escape by ejecting the warp core (which is powering the very engines keeping them out of the black hole at the time) and blowing it up which pushes the ship away without destroying it is particularly stupid. This is like getting stuck on a treadmill you cant turn off and deciding take off a shoe to throw at the plug, not gonna work. I've got lots more if you want it but this post is getting long. Let me just close by saying I also particularly hated the product placement by Nokia and Budweiser (of all things). Really?? They have Budweiser Premium in the future?? The acting in the movie was ok, the action sequences were good, but I need more from my movies than fluff.

#193 you are really really stupid im sorry but there is just no other way to say it i proved what i had said earlier and instead of just admitting you're mistake you continue to show you're stupidy! I would challenge you to a star trek trivia match ANY day as i have already stated earlier i own EVERY single episode of every series except enterprise which i didnt like! and every single startrek movie!! and have watched each and every one serval times as well as reading SEVERAL of the startrek books including those cowritten by william shatner and leonard nimoy YOU would not stand a chance all the points ive made about the NEW crap trek are correct and can be easily verified. i said you know nothing and it shows!!!you should really see treks 2 through 4 easily the best period in the movies!!!give em a look!!!

WOW this last guy REALLY gets it nice comment like i was saying in an earlier comment the reason so many people like this new trek is because of just how DUMBED down it really is and as i said SIMPLE-MINDED people like KEN enjoy this crap they want boom boom and dont care if you trash an entitre generations favorite scfi franchise!!!Nicely done filmguy!

#196, just stop showing how pathetic you are. You've proved nothing and turned these comments into a personal pissing contests. I made a general assertion that folks need to stop spewing B.S. and you, in your infinite feelings of narcissism believed I was talking directly to you, your lordship. Please, stop embarrassing yourself. Finally, if you think ST3 was good, you've proved your retardedness. ST3 is a shadow of a story and was stretched out way too long and should have been another 10 mins added to ST2 (WOK) instead. ST1 was 2nd best after ST2 (WOK). Wow, you've read ST novels, including the CRAP books written by Shattner? I am so impressed by your ubermensch status. Keep coming after me you pathetic waste of life, it is a great use of both of our time, isn't it? I have ST novels too, big friggin' deal. OOooo, wait here, I need to go watch and re-watch some ST movies so I can begin to talk with you. But, I have you now! You apparently have not watched Enterprise nor Star Trek: The Animated series (both of which I own and have watched many times). I suppose you do not respect them, so they do not warrant your attention. Alas, how can you form an ubergedanke without exposure to all that is Trek, despite your person bias and prejudice. Anyway... Are you still reading this, are you that obsessed with yourself? ...I think you need some sleep. Bye now.

P.S.: For those that I have seen debating Wolverine Vs Star Trek or saying jovially that Wolverine kicked Star Trek's butt opening weekend vs opening weekend. Star Trek has brought in almost as much in 3.5 days as Wolverine has in 10 days worldwide.

This movie didn't really have the kind of thought-provoking hard science fiction theme that makes Trek unique from Star Wars and all the rest. I felt that Nero wasn't explained very well; we don't really get a good understanding of who he is. He seemed too alien and brooding, unlike Trek's greatest villain, Khan, who we not only understood, but could sympathize with his situation. I know that Nero's planet was destroyed and he lost his wife, but we don't really witness his anguish. I was sort of shocked by Scotty's dwarf side-kick also. That seemed contrived, and I half expected him to sound like Jar-Jar Binks. I hope he's quietly omitted in the sequel, with no reference or mention of him ever again on film. These quibbles aside (and they really are minor), this movie was a rollicking good time. I haven't had this much fun in a movie in a LONG time, to the point where I really forget about the world and get completely caught up in the adventure. Spielburg and Lucas at their very best could accomplish this, and that's how the over all experience felt for me. The cast was superb. The effects and new sets were fantastic. And although I complained a little about the plot, it was still a pretty clever way of rebooting the franchise and I think satisfying old and new fans. Abrams has deepened the canon, not destroyed it. I can now watch TOS episodes with a whole new perspective.

and by the way KENNY GIRL you mad it PERSONAL with me when you said i was worng about things that can easily be CONFIRMED DUMMY!!He's not even smart enough to remember who made things personal and who didnt DUMB!!!!! SO DUMB!!!!!

#201 and #205 or Ken and BullDurham. Damn this has turned into a full out war. I'm not really interested in getting in the middle of quarrels on whose the biggest Trek fan. I certainly never claimed to be one of the biggest fans. I only recognize the qualities that I personally think were the best from Star Trek. Certainly from the films. I think most people agree that the best films were the ones that took the narrative and the characters seriously. Like The Wrath Of Khan, Search For Spock, The Undiscovered Country, and First Contact. I only was pointing out in my post how deeply lacking the new Trek was in having the same qualities that made those ones so great. Ken the best films are those that find a way to entertain but at the same time find a clever way to insert some deeper meaning in there. The new film really failed to do that. Yeah it may be entertaining but films that prove to truly last the test of time are ones that make you think and that resonate. I went through film school with a focus in screenwriting and I gotta tell you that the screenplay had some very weak dialogue, character development, and narrative structure. Statistics are showing that younger audiences are making up most of the audiences attending the movies these days so studios are making these movies more for them. Also the industry has taken into account the economic crisis and are thinking that audiences are handling too much drama in their real lives that they can't handle any more in the theater. Back in the last depression they had Shirley Temple but now they need to dumb down all of their big properties. Audiences have just become less sophisticated and sadly don't appreciate good cinema now. They just want immediate satisfaction with out putting any thought into anything on screen. Now Ken I think you're being a bit of a hypocrite about yelling at BullDurham for continuing to write in to defend his view when you yourself are continuing to do it as well. I mean you came at me and attack with out any reason. I really don't care if you know more about Star Trek. I've certainly seen all of the series and movies but I'm not obsessive about it. Don't think I'd want to be. I speak more from knowledge of film and the cinema then I do for Star Trek. The new movie is a film after all and as a film it fell really short. #207 there are torture scenes in countless films through out cinema history and this one certainly did not speak much to current events. The little slug they dropped in Pikes mouth was a reminder of The Wrath Of Khan but beyond that there was nothing else in the torture scene that had a deeper meaning to it. I don't know how you got that. Also if that is the only moment in the entire film that you think you can find something symbolic then that's just sad. The main reason that I can't enjoy the film is not because of how it screws with Trek history. The biggest reason is just simply that it wasn't a very good film. As I've previously stated it was lacking some of the most important ingredients and was shallow, one dimensional, and generally poorly written and directed. I speak more from a fan of the cinema then I do as a Star Trek fan. Sure I like Star Trek and grew up on it but Star Trek isn't what made me want to get involved in the industry. I love films and I greatly respect films that manage to accomplish entertainment along with a great story, well developed characters, and some deeper dimensions that make it resonate. This one certainly didn't accomplish anything beyond entertainment for 13 year olds. Also Missy we are writing in a message board not an english essay. Who really cares if I use "it's" incorrectly.

Wow you really got me there Missy. Because I don't obsess over whether or not I put an apostrophe in meaningless message board then that must mean that I'm uneducated and an unsuccessful. Screenwriting is a very long and careful process filled with many drafts and last any where from months to years. That I take seriously. A message board where immature people feel compelled to attack and insult people who don't agree with them I could care less about. Do you have any idea how pathetic you make yourself look making a personal attack like that? Grow up.

For non-Trekkers the movie will be awesome, but for Trekkies, I think it'll stink really, really bad! For Trekkies, the overall plot is both unconvincing and totally irrational. No self respecting Romulan would ever sit idle for 25 years, whether for revenge or otherwise, while in possession of technology that's from an advanced future over a century away. It's more likely they would use it usurp the Romulan Empire and the rest of the quadrant as well, while all the Federation could do is wait to be conquered next. Too campy, from Kirks ridiculous fat hands to wtf was that little side-kick thing for Scottie, an ugly gray Pikachu? Not to mention Scottie's trip through the aquatic hamster tubes, all of this didn't feel very Trek like at all, instead maybe tubes filled with Tribbles would have been more convincing. I honestly believe it’s an alternate timeline because the script writer lacked the ability to do the proper research necessary to stay true to the original timeline and make it work. I'm sorry; I simply cannot and will not buy into anyone erasing a 42 year old franchise to merely reinvent the wheel when they admittedly totally lack the credentials to do the job with any merit. Thanks Paramount for a flashy film full of 3D splendor and fast action but otherwise still a load of ill contrived and inconsistent crap. I mean clearly, Abrams is no fan of the franchise nor has he ever been. So why then did he ever get the job? Trek isn’t about some new director throwing in iconic cameo shots from their previous movies or TV shows, so wtf is Abrams allowed to get away with his crap? I hope Paramount suffers, really bad, from this blunder.

*events*

Calibretto.. You seem like someone i could actually have an inteligent conversation with you are correct and this is no place for personal attacks i can say in my defense he made it personal several comments ago when he attacked mine and several other peoples VALID points i cant stand someone like that who doesnt have the brain power to make logical arguments so they resort to name calling..if you go back to the beggining of mine and kens dispute youll notice he called a bunch of us stupid so of course im gonna defend!!!you are so right about so many flaws in this movie i was only pointing out the OBVIOUS ones destroying vulcan and spocks mom ect... but there were so many many more!!! KEN PLEASE GROW UP!!!

Fantastic movie! ! ! !

Didn't think it sucked, but didn't think it was great either. I just don't understand why every critic in America is going nuts over this movie! "Star Trek" has certainly been one of the most anticipated movies of the year, and for many reasons. On one hand you have the true fans. For some it's the original series, others the continuing adventures of the original crew of the Enterprise from TOS through the movies, and still others, the complete run of the franchise encompassing "The Next Generation", "Deep Space Nine", "Voyager", and "Enterprise". On the other hand you have people who are perhaps coming to the table for the very fist time. Maybe they watched some episodes from any one of the television series, movies, or even were just aware of the concept of "Star Trek" but never felt the urge to get into it. It might have been because it was before their time or they found it to be too slow or talky. I want to take on this reboot using these two vastly different viewpoints. I say this because I came to this movie as a "Star Trek" fan (not a 'Trekkie', which I consider the extreme fan) and as a passionate moviegoer. In other words, I watched this movie unfold by also being able to disconnect my fan expectations and view J.J. Abrams story and vision as solely one of this summers anticipated blockbusters. Which is kind of the way I went into the first "Transformers" when it came out. I was never a fan of the toys or animated series, but I found the movie to be filled with cool action and amazing scenes of giant robots kicking the shit out of each other...and that's exactly what I wanted from that movie. Considering the fact that Michael Bay has never had dimensional characters or great story in any of his movies, I knew I'd get exactly what I set out to enjoy: action, action, action! However, with the new "Star Trek" I was finding it very hard to enjoy the movie on either level; both fan and moviegoer. As a backup to how the film would be perceived minus the true fan aspect, my girlfriend has never been a "Trek" fan and was mainly seeing this with me on the sole merit of being one of this summer's big movies we wanted to see. So she was clear of the baggage that some people might say I brought too much of with me into the theater. Keep in mind that there are SPOILERS AHEAD. First and foremost I have to say "Star Trek" was way too fast and furious for me to really care about any of the characters. The constantly moving camera work was WAY overdone and became a real annoyance throughout. FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, LOCK THE CAMERA DOWN ONCE IN A WHILE! Even shakiness during some serious scenes seemed inappropriate. I'm reading a book...quick dolly in on me! I'm about to go to the bathroom....drop zoom onto my face! I'm sitting here thinking about my dog....push the camera in and spin around me landing on my face and then shooting away to my girlfriend about to make eggs!!! STOP IT!!! The whole concept of this being in an alternate reality was clever at times, but I think that was one of the things that took me out of caring about the characters. These just didn't feel like the same people who would become the iconic crew. Even though in a way they were. The time travel aspect was definitely fascinating though. A lot of the sets were just out-of-control tricked out! My thoughts about the bridge in photos months before the actually movie came out remained the same for me as I watched it in motion. Too bright, way too detailed, and at times, very indefinable. Speaking from the "Trek" fans point of view, I didn't like that there is a large 16x9 window at the front of the bridge. It's always been a view screen! Even with a zillion graphics flitting across it, it's still a view screen. I flat out thought engineering was a joke! What, are we in A BREWERY?! Give me a break! Concrete and valves? Did we just run out of time and shoot in the basement of the studio? But wait, there's a computer terminal where Scotty works. Oh, I see the high tech future now. I'd like to order the Enterprise Lager or the Unemotional Spock Stout please! That comment came from my girlfriend at the end of the movie, BTW. Casting... Chris Pine did a better job than being a little wooden, as some of the reviews I've read state. Thought he carried the lead nicely, and I appreciated brief nods here and there to Shatner's original performance...like when he said "Bones" near the end. I didn't think he was amazing though. Speaking of "Bones", the nickname is common among ship's doctors in the Navy and has been for decades. THAT's why he's called "Bones". Why they had to come up with a reason for Kirk calling McCoy that is kind of pointless. The whole Kobayashi Maru test scene with Kirk was way over the top. Fan's view point: Kirk should have been a little cocky for sure, but more intent on appearing to masterfully beat the simulation instead of swinging around in his chair, eating an apple, and being so blatantly unconcerned with the outcome. How does he get a personal commendation for original thinking out of this, as he states in "Wrath Of Khan"? Here, Starfleet wanted to boot his ass out! To anyone with half a brain he seemed like he was blatantly cheating and even a five-year-old kid would have nailed him right away. Just seemed dumb the way they portrayed it. Zachary Quinto does a very good job of taking over the role of Spock. I don't think anyone else could have played him so in tune, not only with the character's iconic persona, but in his resemblance and connection to Leonard Nimoy. Simon Pegg was definitely funny and I kind of wanted to see more of him. Anton Yelchin's Chekov was a little over the top with his accent but it didn't bother me that much. Perhaps the best performance of the movie goes to Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy. He really nails DeForest Kelley in so many ways AND makes it his own without over tweaking. He was probably the most enjoyable element I found in the entire movie. One thing I was pretty annoyed with was how the original "Star Trek" phrases and nods were really just tacked on in just about every scene. Spock saying 'fascinating' and McCoy grunting 'you green blooded hobgoblin' just came across as lip service to the fans. Kind of like 'here's your little treat to chew on, happy now?'. The green academy girl Kirk beds was a similar 'here ya go, Trek nerds' scene. Even Leonard Nimoy saying 'I have been and always shall be your friend' seemed like one of the biggest rotten carrots thrown out to the fans, and it was delivered like an empty promise that this was really "Star Trek". Nothing against Nimoy. That had my head shaking, but didn't compare to the space sky diving scene! GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!!! So when are we going to burn up in the atmosphere?! I was shaking my head so much I was waiting for it to come off my shoulders and roll onto the theater floor! That completely topped my reaction to the alien spacecraft rising up in "Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Title Is Too Long And Out Of Control"! Spock and Uhura having a 'thing' really did nothing for me or the story. Maybe to add more to Spock's emotional side? I was annoyed at it from a fan's point of view, and found it kind of flat from the general moviegoer's seat. The first ten or twelve minutes of the film that everyone is saying 'grabbed them by the throat and never let go' was good, but didn't have me at the edge of my seat, heart pounding with anticipation. I'd probably have to say the one clip I thought was well done was when an explosion rocks one of the decks and a crewmember is blown out into space. As you follow that person outside the hull, all sound is removed and we ONLY SEE the battle. That was an effective moment. There's no sound in space, but of course if we didn't have sound out there in the movies, these space actions and battles wouldn't be as potent. When Kirk's mother and father start talking about what they're going to name they're newborn, it kind of seems like the clock ticking off the last ten seconds before the Kelvin hits Nero's ship stops. Oh wait, did I leave the gas on? Hold off on to that impact thing for a moment. The effects in general were very well done, and at times eye popping. When the Enterprise comes out of warp at Vulcan, the way it traverses the debris field of wrecked or destroyed ships is awesome. Although initially when the Enterprise, as well as the rest of the fleet go into warp it's too loud and too annoyingly abrupt. In general it seems like whenever they do something like this in a movie it always has to top what's come before...to the point of being ridiculously blown out. This could have been done better. But then again it's what young audiences want in movies today. Big! Loud! Slam! Crash!...Hey man, is that Dolby Digital?! WELL TURN IT UP, MAN! Used effectively it's amazing. Used just for the sake of the 'pow', it's nothing but noise. But this is just a side note from my review. The story was pretty basic, although very rushed. Like I said at the beginning, you're never given time to connect with anyone. Even Eric Bana seemed more like a Next Generation movie villain (that's not a compliment) than anything even remotely touching Ricardo Montalban's Khan, still the best of the best. I say this because so many people are comparing Nero with Khan. Sorry, didn't see it at all. I just didn't feel threatened by him. But for what Bana was given, I think he did a good job with it. BTW, was his ship big enough? Six billion people die when Vulcan is destroyed. I think we should have felt that much, much more than anyone in the film certainly did. This is part of the emotional resonance that was missing from the entire film; BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, EXPLOSION, EXPLOSION, EXPLOSION, FIRE EVERYTHING!!!....Can I have a little heart and soul with my rock and roll please?! The new design of the Enterprise is probably cool for someone coming into this fresh. I had some issues with it, especially the overly pregnant engines. This is a minor thing, I know, when it comes to the overall film. In fact more faithful Trekkies will probably decry a lot of things in this movie on a pickiune scale. I respect that, but didn't feel as many abrasions when it came to canon. But they did step over the line quite a bit here and there in my book. My girlfriend, whose not a Trek fan but is a HUGE movie and sci-fi fan, found the movie to be O.K. but nothing overly special. She agreed that emotion was lost on the abundance of blown out action. She was a true gauge for me outside of those I've read reviews from previously. If you're a twenty-something and you've never seen "Star Trek" you're probably going to think this movie is the second coming. Good for you, glad you enjoyed it so much and can't wait for the sequel. For me this was just a one-off that didn't really connect to the established universe of the franchise. But then again I really lost interest in the movies when they moved on to the Next Generation cast. Another observation by my girlfriend (and I agreed with her): did it seem like the ending was lifted from the original "Star Wars"? The Throne Room scene? Kirk gets a medal, everyone applauds...he should have winked at Spock. Then they all turn around and Chewbacca growls because he helped and didn't even get a medal! And even before that, Nero's humongous ship destroys entire planets. Hmmm...like the Death Star maybe? That J.J. Abrams...he's such a "Star Wars" fan. As a Trek fan I was really expecting this movie to be fantastic. When I first heard about this project I thought to myself what an incredible fine line the filmmakers are going to have to tread to get this movie right, to follow what is canon. Kind of like Zack Snyder when making "Watchmen", and I thought he did an incredible job with that! Plus, I'm a fan of the graphic novel. Key elements when making a new movie from a revered book, property, comic, etc.; respect for the material while turning it up a notch and giving people something new. Zack Snyder, Sam Raimi, Bryan Singer have been these directors. J.J. Abrams could have gone to the next level, brought a really exciting "Star Trek" story WITH emotion and WITHOUT insane amounts of pimp-outed action, sets, characters, and it could have worked nicely. Turning it up to 11 or 12 would have been great. He turned it up to 30! I think my eyes and ears are bleeding now, thank you. As a movie I wanted to see from purely a movie fan's perspective, and I too am a HUGE movie fan, "Star Trek" seemed kind of average, relying on a lot of elements we've seen before and to no greater use here. Like I said, it wasn't bad, it was just kind of...there. As a "Star Trek" movie, and the level of character depth, story, and emotion, this doesn't hold a candle to "The Wrath Of Khan"...period. Reboots are tricky things. So far, the only reboot that worked (and worked incredibly!) was "Batman Begins", which of course was followed by "The Dark Knight" and that was amazing! Those films are still hard to follow. I wish I could say "Star Trek" did.

I'm an Old Skool Trekkie, watched the original show with my mom when I was a kid, and this was fantastic! It kept all the things I LOVE about Star Trek and added all the things I LOVE about the movie technology we have now, bent them into something familiar but new at the same time, AND managed to keep the old canon untouched. This wasn't a re-imagining like the Bond series now. This is a Whole New World of Star Trek, with alternate stories but the same familiar faces. I LOVED it. Great Job. Don't...mess with Captain...Kirk.

The thing that bugs me the most is they went out of their way to dis William Shatner because they said, "the continuity of the story said that Kirk is dead by this time in the future." Then they proceeded to rape the entire "continuity" argument hard and long by altering the entire time line as far back as Jim Kirk's birth. So they have no excuse. Overall, the story to me was a big * yawn * Oh jeez...not another time travel trick. That's a plot point that is so overused it isn't even interesting anymore. Now in this film it is even gratuitously used to the point of being an excuse for changing everything that Trek lovers have known as the very cornerstones of the whole Trek Universe. The South Park spoof on Lucas and Spielberg raping Indiana Jones is a good illustration of how I feel about this film. Abrams has raped the Starship Enterprise. I can't believe I just sat there and did nothing. I'm a life-long Trek fan. I even liked "Enterprise" and thought it was a very well done series. But Abrams has totally ruined Star Trek for me. I can't watch it anymore. He ruined the Enterprise. The warp engines look like something out of an "Adam & Eve" catalog. The engine room looked like the boiler room out of the Titanic. What's with all the water pipes, valves and tanks on a super-advanced matter/anti-matter reactor powered starship? The sickbay was absolutely ridiculous. Looks like they used an old set from ER and blasted everything brilliant white. The bridge was the worst of all. Looks like the Apple computer store at the mall. I half expected to see Uhura with an iPod hanging from her utility belt. And I agree with an earlier post. The little "fling" she had with Spock was a total insult to both of their characters. Spock would never allow such an emotional attachment. The original series established Uhura as technically savvy professional, successful woman. Now she's just a sleezy bimbo who likes a Vulcan hooked on Viagra? The acting was good. The casting was excellent. The story was lackluster at best and the movie was a total failure on technical details. Sure. Call me a "trekkie" with my feelings hurt. Call me a geek who takes Star Trek too seriously. However, I believe I represent a large portion of the opening weekend audience. Mr. Abrams: You just pissed off a large section of the established fan-base that you had handed to you on a silver platter. There were lots of eyes on you this weekend watching to see if you got the technical details right. I'm not saying they had to be an exact duplicate of the 1966 visuals. But you took way too much "poetic license" with details that many of the fans hold sacrosanct. My advice: Don't make any more sequels. No more "prequels." No more "origin" stories. I'm sick of them. Just let Star Trek die in peace.

As much as I did really enjoy this movie, this Star Wars vs. Star Trek mashup on CollegeHumor really sums up my overall opinion: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910892 (I'm not trying to advertise for CH, it really DOES sum it up lol)

Im glad to see some REAL trek fans coming forward with some of the same things i've been saying all along. It is such a shame to as an earlier post stated jj had a built in audience for this and he really let die hard trek fans down someone said earlier that he raped star trek..I could'nt agree more..Such a shame

I know for me, personally, my favorite part was how Kurtzman and Orci lifted every major story element from Wrath of Khan, Nemesis, and First Contact and the plot as a whole from Star Wars. I can't wait for the sequel! I hope they call it Star Trek Troopers II! Or maybe Star Trek: The Klingons Strike Back. OR maybe they'll take it even farther back and make Star Trek Episode I: The Phantom Klingon

It sucked. It was total garbage. Shaky camera work and no plot. No holding to what made Trek great for over 40 years. No holding to the characters. It was like watching a parody of Trek. Interesting, though, how the few people that liked it are so vicious in their attacks on the many, many true Trek fans that saw the huge, gaping flaws in this bomb. We aren't attacking you, just your precious stinker of a film; why attack us?

It was ok. Thats it. Abrams did not make it awesome, it already was. I did not like the lens flares or the shaky camera stuff. Why would Spock have a love interest, what happen to T'Pring or Nurse Chapel? And I know it is science fiction but Star Trek has always been based on science fact so what is with the flying thru a black hole crap. They knew in the 1960's that a black hole has a solid mass in the center, there would be no flying thru. They must be confussed with wormholes. This movie has a lot of problems and Star Trek was already a great thing or it would not have survived 40 years.

Well, the impossible has happened. As of now, Star Trek SUCKS!. Abrams, the Star Trek I knew is dead, and what remains is the grossest mutilation I could imagine. How could you turn a group of highly trained professionals into a gang of whiney kids just out of school? Cadet to Captain in one movie? That is not a Captain, much less Captain Kirk. He worked his way into his position with daring and HARD WORK! This one has nothing but luck and Uncle Chris! And a crew that would follow the annointed wunderkind? What are they thinking? Abrams, you don't get it. I hope you enjoy the cash. You've destroyed something beautiful to get it. Trek is Dead. Bury it and be done.

I agree with 237. I really liked it.

As someone who is probably more of a Trekkie than not, I LOVED IT! I was not expecting to at all, but it won me over. My dad was raving about how bad it was going to be, but he too got a kick out of it. Now, it does not match the more thought-provoking episodes of the series, but remember they had to take time to introduce the characters to non-fans. Sop many reboots are bad, that I like to compare it to "Batman Begins" which is one of the few others that was able to pull it off effectively. That film had a terrific beginning and horrid ending. But the final payoff (a absolutely amazing sequel) was totally worth it. And I'm hoping Trek can do the same. Go JJ!

I love Star Trek – always have and always will HOWEVER - This new film is not Star Trek, or at best it is a non - canon film. I have seen it twice and I am still devastated by it. The events that negated so much of Trek Lore or continuity. Firstly, anyone who loves the series would know that Gene Roddenberry would not have approved of Vulcan being destroyed. Vulcan is the soul of the Star Trek universe. This new timeline (if it is accepted) negates 40 years of continuity. The attacks on Rick Berman are a joke. He worked with Gene on the development of the TGN and Gene knew of the plans for Deep Space 9. Let alone hours of fantastic television. Who could forget the emotion of ‘The Visitor’. He led a team that gave us hours of the best Trek. If in doubt watch again Generations and First Contact. Secondly, this new film has so many links to Star Wars I am surprised that George Lucas hasn't sued: Young Kirk / Anakin in car / pod racer. Bar scenes - New Hope Snow attacks - Hoth monster / Kirk monster. Spock / Yoda links Battle scenes - Return Jedi. etc I just hope that people who love Star Trek can retake the franchise and bring it back to watch Gene imagined. Not just a film that rips of star wars. In terms of the timeline. There is only one true timeline in Star Trek. It has been manipulated on many occasions, but always corrected, in accordance with the temporal accords etc. Some ‘fans’ are confusing the mirror universe which is different. If we accept this new film as canon it DOES wipe out everything we know. Why do that? Why destroy things that are loved by many for no reason? For example see these examples from http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Alternate_timeline In 2344, the USS Enterprise-C responded to a distress call from a Klingon outpost on Narendra III, which was under attack by Romulan forces. In the "real" timeline the Enterprise saved the outpost and strengthened relations between the Federation and the Klingons. However, during the battle with the Romulans a Temporal rift opened and the Enterprise, badly damaged and disoriented, traveled to 2366, in the presence of its successor, the USS Enterprise-D. Because the Enterprise-C was not there to save the outpost it was destroyed and the Klingons declared war on the Federation. For the next 22 years, the two powers engaged in a bitter war that cost 40 billion lives and left the Federation on the brink of defeat. In this timeline, Tasha Yar was still alive and serving as tactical officer aboard the Enterprise-D in 2366. Guinan began to feel the change in time as "not right". She advised Captain Picard of the changes and eventually convinced him to send the Enterprise-C back through the rift. Yar discovered through Guinan that she died in the other timeline and felt that she could help aboard the Enterprise-C rather than where she felt she didn't belong. The Klingons attacked the two ships as the Enterprise-C flew toward the rift, while the Enterprise-D defended her. The Enterprise-D was likely destroyed by the Klingons, but the Enterprise-C made it through the rift and restored the timeline, erasing the war from history. (TNG: "Yesterday's Enterprise") However, during the battle with the Romulans, the Enterprise-C was forced to surrender and prisoners, including the alternate Yar, were taken. Yar had a child with a Romulan and was later executed. The child, Sela, became a commander in the Romulan military and encountered the Enterprise-D several times. (TNG: "The Mind's Eye", "Redemption", "Redemption II", "Unification I", "Unification II") In Enterprise we see something happen that is similar to that of Vulcan. The effect of a Delphic Expanse anomaly leaves Archer unable to form any new long-term memories. Twelve years later, he wakes up one morning and is stunned to learn the outcome of the Human-Xindi conflict, including the loss of Earth, and the near-annihilation of the Human race. Jonathan Archer wakes in his quarters in the midst of battle. He rushes to the bridge only to see Earth destroyed by the Xindi superweapon. The story restores the timeline. Together Trek fans can have the Best of both Worlds – a new trek for new fans and keep the faith we all those fans that kept the dream alive – the timeline can be restored. Live Long and Prosper Anthony O'Leary anthonyoleary@bigpond.com SAVE STAR TREK PETITION http://www.petitiononline.com/vulcan/petition.html

I don't see how this movie doesn't destroy the old canon. If we pay attention closely.... *** SPOILER *** we know the reason "old" Spock is in this supposed mirror universe is because he allowed Romulus be destroyed in the original timeline. Well, according to TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Nemesis, that certainly didn't happen. Abrams' film is an excellent sci-fi movie (with some significant plot holes), but at its heart is simply is not Star Trek. Non-canon and never will be as far as I'm concerned.

"It sucked." "It ruins the CANON." "It's not Star Trek." "The critics are being bought." "The CG sucked." "I wanted something different." "The ship is ugly." "J.J. Abrams is a(n) (insert expletive here). Blah blah blah...what a bunch of whiny-ass babies... I think I will go see it at least once a day until it leaves just so I can help boost the overall sales, and increase the chance of a WHOLE FUCKING SLEW of sequels.... Seriously, go get your security blankets and nightlights, get a drink of wawa, and get your fucking asses to bed. Gene Roddenberry would have loved this movie.

The film was excellent action, but had a really lousy story. I both loved it and hated it. It felt like anyone who sees this film drops ten points in IQ from doing so. Now I'm going back to READING proper sci fi. So long suckers!

Good movie. Haters, shut up.

Joe... Your response serves to perfectly illustrate my original post. Whiny.... Ass.... Baby....

filmguy...what insight! Of course I'm a "pussy" with no real "backbone." That's why I post with my name and not some jerkoff handle like "filmguy." Still, I don't mind the insults. I dish 'em and I can take 'em. At least you didn't call me "unsophisticated." And I would be happy to illuminate your post for you! Go back and read what you have written in this thread...it's oh so easy to get online and hide behind a jerkoff handle while you pull apart someone else's work and criticize those who enjoy it. What a sad, pathetic little man you are. You slam me for talking shit to you and the other haters when talking shit is exactly what you have been doing here. I just got tired of listening to your pissing and moaning and decided to recognize you for what you are...a whiny ass baby. By the way...since your such an expert on Roddenberry, maybe you should check out his son's video blog... And I quote... "My father would be really proud." I think the man's son is a tad bit more qualified to speak on the issue than you are. Ass.

What??? Kirk is best friends with Spock because future Spock told him that he should be? Bones can only express 1 emotion? Humanity's ideals are ideal in the Federation, but people on earth still act like retards they were 200years ago? In today's world it doesn't matter how much you love something if your money is not what's keeping it alive. J.J Abrahms took what was favourite brain food for lots of people because it's name rang familiar, changed it's flavour so everyone can eat it, so he can sell more of it. Kudos for doing something clever, brave and new isn't a thing anybody goes for these days. Making piles of money is. No one can argue against a pile of money, if you got it, you're king. Bullshit, you're just a greedy, self centered asshole. So if you could all stop your whining how bad this movie was because you made the world what it is by being polite and not setting something right last time some dumbass said something real stupid in the office, at home, holiday, bar, pub etc. Dumbing down of humanity starts when smart people are too polite to confront stupidity. I just hope movie makers will realise that future movies will be much like what Simpsons were, lots of pretty colours for dumbasses to be dumbfound, and an actuall plausible storyline beneath it all so ones with some remaining brains actually bother going to cinema rather than downloading.

Why didn't they just do a total reboot? Go Batman Begins style and just retell the story with out any connections to the past series. That way they're not screwing with canon and they have that fresh start they wanted. But of no, Abrams decided that he wanted to piss all over Star Trek history by writing over it. The whole time travel idea is so old hat and cliche. There really was nothing original in this film which is ironic because so many people seems to think that it is. Maybe its just mostly the younger people who haven't seen the dozens of films that Star Trek ripped off.

Joe… Your response serves to perfectly illustrate my original post. Whiny…. Ass…. Baby…. Absurd! Your arguments were against those who didn't like the movie, thus you called them "winy....ass...baby..." Unfortunately, my "whine" was more towards a you. I gave you a real-life illustration to assist you in comprehending my point, but apparently, it flew over your feeble little mind. Lay off the drugs for a while, and give your brain a chance to generate fresh cells because it's apparently lacking. The point was simple. Those who complain about a dish served, do so because it wasn't prepared how they ordered. If I order a medium-rare steak, that's what I expect to get. This version of Star Trek is not what the fans ordered, so some (or most) of us dislike it. We understand the need for change, but a lot of the changes made were not necessary. Besides, it won't be up to us if this new movie succeeds. This J-Trek film can only survive if pesky degenerates such as yourselves will continue supporting Paramount, and JJ Abrams. However, considering very few movie franchises are supported by the so called "main-stream" lovers of movies, I doubt their contributions will enable another 40 years of Star Trek. To put it easier for you to understand, fans such as yourselves will kill it because you were never there to appreciate Star Trek; you merely enjoyed the flashy scenes, large explosions, and computer generated graphics. Trek fans didn't cause Star Trek to decay. The fault is with Paramount, who never offered big budgets to former Trek producers. There are other reasons, but it would be pointless to explain to a child. Hey Stan, I think your mother's calling you. Dinner's ready. So go eat a Hot-Pocket and don't forget to do your chores...if you even have any. And judging by the content of your posts, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that you spend most of your time in mommy's basement. Joe

To those still saying Star Trek did not mess with the "old canon" let me remind you again -- Romulus was destroyed in the timeline that "old" Spock came from. The timeline of TOS, TNG, DS9, etc. So it's definitely re-written the history of the old Treks as wel.