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... Just an Ok episode guys, maybe its cause I disagree so very much with all of your reviews of Terminator Salvation... it was not a flaming peice of crap... and like I said over at Will's blog ( http://willschiff.com/post/112936914/review-terminator-salvation#comment-9944805 ) this was never going to be T1 or T2, McG is no James Cameron... I do agree with all of you that Yelchin does the best job in this film, and that Bale and Worthington seriously underpreform, but it's an action movie... seriously, I've said it to multiple friends and I think one of you guys said it in the podcast: what movie in McG's resume screams "I can make a movie as good as James Cameron"? None. Zero. Zip. Knowing this, you should be able to go into TS and enjoy it for the popcorn flick it is... don't let nostalgia for T1 and T2 ruin it... view it on its own (which I think you guys did a good job of) and I think you should be able to just enjoy it for the summer blockbuster it is... you can read my whole review on my blog, which I think I might have to add to know just to kind of counter point Will's (if that's cool) ...

guys i have not seen the movie yet cause it has not been released in the UK yet but im going to watch it and make my own opinion. but i do have a problem about the movie why WB hire the same crappy screen writters who did Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, Catwoman and The Net. John Brancato and Michael Ferris are the worst writters ever the studios should stop hiring these guys to any big project to teach them a lesson cause they dont understand how to make a good story.

... @movieboy agreed, but it was more than just them... Jonathan Nolan was apperantley in on it, as well as a few other writers that were here and there... I could be mistaken though... .. @Clark I don't think I'm settling for mediocrity, I couldn't make Terminator Salvation, could you? I respect McG for what he pulled off cause there is no way I would have been able to pull that movie off... I kind of think he was going in losing anyways... I'd much rather see TS over Scary Movie any day... I think you misunderstand my definition of popcorn flick... Scary movie fits my definition of flaming piece of crap, not popcorn flick... Transformers, or Bad Boys or basically any Michael Bay movie out there is a popcorn flick to me... all I'm saying is as film geeks when we all heard the McG was directing, we really shouldn't have been expecting a James Cameron film... I truly think this wasn't ever going to be the movie people wanted to be... and McG probably knew this going in... like Anakin Skywalker, he was doomed from the start... and I think lots of people have gotten wrapped up in the nostalgia of T1 and T2... .. amateur action is a bold statement though man... there was a couple scenes in that movie that were far from amateur... (a certain helicopter scene with Bale and the Kyle Reese intro were great) and I guess the continuation error just wasn't as glaringly obvious to me as it was to you guys. I don't think this movie is going to have a huge pull in the action genre by being a bad movie... Seriously, Night at the Smithsonian beat it at the box office... action movies are and will continue to get better and better, and I think that the Bourne Trilogy is a good example of that... but I think it’s an unfair comparison to this movie as the same basic team (Greengrass directed all three didn't he?) was there throughout the entire trilogy... whereas this is a completely different team all together, minus Stan Winston's effects which were all awesome... .. You can't just say if the movie is going to be bad don't make it... sometimes lighting strikes, a hell of a lot more times it doesn't... the movie did really good with what it had, it had a mediocre director, horrible writers, and some fairly good acting talent... and it pulled off a par to above par movie... which is what I think we all should have been expecting as "critics" and movie geeks... .. In short, I think we all should cut TS some slack as we all should have realized a long while ago that this was not going to be the Terminator of old... This movie was good for what it was and was way better than I thought it was going to be... I was expecting a Scary Movie pile of flaming crap, and I came out of the theatre with a hidden gem in Anton Yelchin, some great cinematography in that Helicopter scene, and some badass robot fights... I'll be renting this when it comes out on DVD and enjoying it with my Dad... .. Sorry for the long reply and keep up the podcasting guys, I really do like the show ...

@Mondo Jay i know Jonathan Nolan was involved but not much he needed to write about 51% to be credit as the writer so i believe he did not do major changes that what everyone think he did. the truth is John Brancato and Michael Ferris should not even been writing for this movie or any big budget movie at all.