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2010 Golden Globe Awards Winners - Avatar Wins Best Drama

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January 17, 2010

Golden Globe Awards

The winners of the 67th Annual Golden Globe Awards, the precursor to the Academy Awards, were announced tonight at an exciting ceremony held at The Beverly Hilton in Beverly Hills. We will be updating this list live below with all of the winners once they're announced during the ceremony tonight. I'm rooting for many of the great movies that got nominations this year (like 500 Days of Summer, District 9, Up in the Air) and I'm already excited to see who takes home the most Globes this time. I'm not expecting any major upsets, but you never know, Avatar could sweep this year if everything goes right. Read on for the results!

The 67th Annual Golden Globe Awards were held at The Beverly Hilton hosted by Ricky Gervais with a live telecast on NBC. The full list of winners can be found in full below. Winners are highlighted in BOLD.

BEST DRAMA
Winner! Avatar
The Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
Precious
Up in the Air

DIRECTOR
Katheryn Bigelow - The Hurt Locker
Winner! James Cameron - Avatar
Clint Eastwood - Invictus
Jason Reitman - Up in the Air
Quentin Tarantino - Inglourious Basterds

ACTOR (DRAMA)
Winner! Jeff Bridges - Crazy Heart
George Clooney - Up in the Air
Colin Firth - A Single Man
Morgan Freeman - Invictus
Tobey Maguire - Brothers

ACTRESS (DRAMA)
Emily Blunt - The Young Victoria
Winner! Sandra Bullock - The Blind Side
Helen Mirren - The Last Station
Carey Mulligan - An Education
Gabourey Sibide - Precious

BEST MUSICAL OR COMEDY
500 Days of Summer
Winner! The Hangover
It's Complicated
Julie & Julia
Nine

ACTOR (MUSICAL OR COMEDY)
Matt Damon - The Informant
Daniel Day Lewis - Nine
Winner! Robert Downey, Jr. - Sherlock Holmes
Joseph Gordon Levitt - 500 Days of Summer
Michael Stuhlbarg - A Serious Man

ACTRESS (MUSICAL OR COMEDY)
Sandra Bullock - The Proposal
Marion Cotillard - Nine
Julia Roberts - Duplicity
Meryl Streep - It's Complicated
Winner! Meryl Streep - Julie & Julia

FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM
A Prophet
Baarìa
Broken Embraces
The Maid
Winner! The White Ribbon

ANIMATED FILM
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
Coraline
Fantastic Mr. Fox
The Princess and the Frog
Winner! Up

SUPPORTING ACTOR
Matt Damon - Invictus
Woody Harrelson - The Messenger
Christopher Plummer - The Last Station
Stanley Tucci - The Lovely Bones
Winner! Christoph Waltz - Inglourious Basterds

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Penelope Cruz - Nine
Vera Farmiga - Up in the Air
Anne Kendrick - Up in the Air
Winner! Mo'Nique - Precious
Julianne Moore - A Single Man

SCREENPLAY
District 9
The Hurt Locker
It's Complicated
Winner! Up in the Air
Inglourious Basterds

ORIGINAL SCORE
Winner! Michael Giacchino - Up
Marvin Hamlisch - The Informant
James Horner - Avatar
Abel Krozeniowski - A Single Man
Karen O. and Carter Burwell - Where the Wild Things Are

ORIGINAL SONG
"Cinema Italiano" - Nine
"I Want to Come Home" - Everybody's Fine
"I Will See You" - Avatar
Winner! "The Weary Kind" - Crazy Heart
"Winter" - Brothers

CECIL B. DEMILLE LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD
Winner! Martin Scorsese

What do you think about the winners so far? How is the ceremony going with Ricky Gervais hosting? Does anyone think that the Golden Globes are more important than the Oscars? Are they even important at all?

There doesn't seem to be one big winner this year, but it is exciting to see Avatar win for Best Drama. There were also quite a few upsets though and I'm not too satisfied with some of the results this year. How could The Hangover win over 500 Days of Summer? How did Sandra Bullock win for The Blind Side? Maybe I just love some of the other nominees, or maybe the HFPA is full of crap, I'm not entirely sure. Either way, this year's results seems to be okay, but not the best possible. The HFPA always seems to surprise everyone with their picks. I hope that doesn't happen at the Oscars, but I suppose we'll find out soon. Overall thoughts?

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  • Daniel felts
    1st. If not, oh well Monique deserved that award.
  • Sorry but I just see this " Mo'Nique - Precious" with the BOLD format...so..who won the best drama category???
  • Cody
    I am sorry but Avatar doesnt deserve anything except some kind of FX award.......the story was cheesy shit plain and simple.
  • #2 - We're not to that point in the awards yet. We're doing this live and updating the page once the awards are announced. Give that category about an hour or two.
  • Soapdish
    Man, I love Ricky Gervais and I think he's doing a great job, but the audience just isn't responding to him all that well.
  • Aequitas
    As long as The Prophet wins best foreign film, i wont curse the GG awards.
  • Xerxex
    Avatar for best drama? good movie, but not best drama material. As for everything else I do hope Christopher Waltz wins, and Fantastic Mr. Fox definitely is deserving of an award, Inglourious Basterds needs the best screenplay award I'm reading it right now and its fantastic. And to be honest I think Anna Kendrick should have taken best supporting actress, and I'll say give best score to Michael Giacchino.
  • Scotty97
    I really hope Joseph Gordon Levitt wins for Actor Comedy or Musical. Clearly the best and most unexpected performance in that category.
  • DRM
    Why are the comedy and musical categories merged? Is that something the Golden Globes have always done? That seems unfair to films/actors in comedies. They should be treated the same as dramatic actors and films. And why is Robert Downey Jr's role in "Sherlock Holmes" in the comedy category? That movie wasn't even a comedy. This is why I hate award shows. It's all just high-brow nonsense.
  • Nasty Nate
    Basterds should've won that screenplay award. Waltz, get ready to get up.
  • #10 - Yep he just got it... Not that I thought he wouldn't, but always great to see it happen! Now it's on to the Oscars next...
  • Xerxex
    Waltz just gave a wonderful acceptance speech! Alex please post it!
  • Xerxex
    okay Cameron just spoke Na'vi on stage!
  • d1rEct
    As much as I try my best to ignore 'award season' if Up In The Air gets any more awards and recognition I am going to loose it, then again I will try to ignore the whole thing.
  • taylor
    At least Cameron knows he wasn't the one who should have won it.
  • JimD
    Avatar was good, but not great. It was more a technical marvel then some great story. It should not win best drama.
  • Jason
    Cameron deserved it. I thought Tarantino whoulda won though.
  • TomV
    How could The Hangover win best comedy? (500) Days of Summer was so much better...also Arnold saying Avatar makes me laugh XD
  • JimD
    Jeff Bridges best actor Drama....Wow is this the Golden Globes? Thats a proper win. Good for Bridges...Hey man its the Dude.
  • Xerxex
    all right Avatar won...it was a good movie, but it should have been either Inglourious Basterds or The Hurt Locker, maybe even Up in the Air.
  • Daniel Felts
    What the hell? Avatar? Best Drama? No. No! This is wrong! God! It's not right! Avatar sucked so much! It was the most disappointment I've ever seen! Precious or Inglorious Basterds should have won!
  • rowdy
    no matter what the golden globes says hurt locker is still the best movie of the year
  • TomV
    Up in the Air should have won. Jason Reitman did not look happy haha
  • jebstuart
    avatar was nowhere near good enough to win best drama. i was hoping for inglourious bastards.
  • Sinister
    Hurt Locker was a great movie, but just an action version of Jarhead. It's great to see Avatar win because this movie stands out and its a movie Ill probably remember like Star Wars and LOTR, while the other nominees I'll most likely forget, I'm an action junkie and a sci-fi fan so great work Cameron.
  • FancyMonocle
    I'm very very pissed about Avatar winning best drama and James Cameron winning best director, but I'm much much more pissed that The Hurt Locker and Kathryn Bigelow were gipped of rightfully deserved awards.
  • Al
    Ricky Gervais was right, these awards are received through bribery. How else did Cameron win director over Bigelow, and Up In The Air/Hurt Locker/ Basterds lose to Avatar? fixed.
  • James
    I'm shocked. How the hell did Avatar win best drama?
  • mC iVAN
    and UP just won 2 golden globe awards. yeah. PIXAR 4-ever..
  • @28 Remember, The Golden Globes= The People's Choice Awards
  • Xerxex
    Alex to answer you question "Are The Globes even important" I say yes the Golden Globes are an important ceremony but once the oscars come people forget all about it. Also Gervais did a good job.
  • Dan the Man
    Oh I'm sorry?! Was that how you pronounced Avatar?!!! AVADARRR haha, bullocks
  • Heckle
    What a load of crap. Avatar didnt deserve to win. Hurt Locker, Moon, Up In The Air deserved awards. Hurt Locker got screwed all around.
  • Dude
    Fuck Avatar
  • Al
    what dude said.
  • Kevin
    I'm so glad to see that others besides myself think that it's a crock of shit that Avatar won Best Drama. Fine, it's an entertaining summer movie that just happened to come out during Awards Season...that doesn't mean it deserves to win jack shit. Horrible script, ugly-ass production design (seriously, what the fuck was up with all of the neon?), predictable plot, and WAY too long. Inglourious Basterds 4-EVAH!!!
  • Jack Novelli
    As I watched James Cameron receive his Golden Globe Award for Best Picture, I couldn't help but notice that an audience of his peers didn't appear to be all that excited for him. Maybe it's because Jim came across as the arrogant SOB that he really is. It is no secret that James Cameron is widely considered "difficult", and often described as a demanding perfectionist, or an egomaniac. When the winner for Best Drama "Avatar" was announced, only those in Cameron's entourage seemed to be cheering. Among them, long time friend Governator Arnold Schwarzenegger, producer Jon Landau and Jim's 5th wife Suzy Amis. Award shows are always so political and the 66th Annual Golden Globe Awards is no exception. Jim's Golden Globe was bought and paid for on the very same day Avatar was released. The film's opening day box office of 80 Million pretty much sealed the deal. Avatar, which is a cross between Fern Gully, Pocahontas and Dances with Wolves is a retelling of the 1957 short story "Call Me Joe" by Science Fiction Author Poul Anderson. Anderson's story centers on a paraplegic — Ed Anglesey — who telepathically connects with an artificially created life form in order... to explore a harsh planet (in this case, Jupiter). Anglesey, like Avatar’s Jake Sully, revels in the freedom and strength of his artificial created body, battles predators on the surface of Jupiter, and gradually goes native as he spends more time connected to his artificial body. In both stories, the aliens are blue cat people. Oddly enough, Poul Anderson is never mentioned in the credits. There is no argument that Avatar has great visuals and watching it in 3D really enhances the experience but other than that, the film comes nowhere close to being a best picture. I must admit that it is a very entertaining movie and director James Cameron manages to successfully transport us to a world that we have never seen before. Kudos to him for pioneering this new technology and there is no doubt that he deserves a Best Effects Award. But...Best Director and Best Picture, I don't think so. Jim's acceptance speech pretty much consisted of him congratulating himself. Once again he made sure that we understood that he was "King of the World;" simultaneously letting us know that we are all spiritually connected even though he could buy and sell us one hundred times over. We are his equals and partners in the green zone. He might be willing to destroy an entire industry and it's inhabitants in order to make the perfect movie, but still has compassion for the fictional Blue People and their jungle planet. In some ways, Jim Cameron is worse than the evil RDA Corporation that appears in his film. The RDA corporation exploits Pandora's reserves of a valuable mineral called unobtanium much like Jim Cameron abuses and capitalizes on his creative team of digital artists. He's a true slave driver who has no problem standing on the shoulders of others, especially if it enables him to elevate himself.
  • chris c
    well said jack.
  • Film Fan
    OK, it's official. The Golden Globes have officially turned into the People's Choice and Blockbuster Video Awards. Yes, I loved "Avatar". But was it better than "Inglorious Basterds" or "The Hurt Locker"? Technically it was. But as a whole? Hell no! And Sandra Bullock and Robert Downey Jr. for Best Actress and Best Actor!? Oh my God. Nuff said. The GG's are now a joke. Not that anyone took them seriously before. Absolutely shameless.
  • JimD
    I knew it, its the Golden Globes. Avatar wins best drama. Heck spongebob squarepants could win best drama on the Golden Globes.
  • JimD
    Hurt Locker better get redeemed at the Oscars.
  • indefinite-infinity
    @41 I agree though Hurt Locker should win best picture, but I still say best director should be James Cameron
  • I could definitely see James Cameron winning Best Director for "Avatar" but I agree with most of the sentiment on here that it should not have won the overall Best Drama. If I had a vote I would probably put it towards "Up in the Air" to win the Oscar for Best Picture.
  • FancyMonocle
    @37 Well put.
  • Frightened Inmate #2
    Watchmen should've sweeped!
  • nathan drake
    wat in the hell did the film ppl even watch inglourious basterds im being dead serious that movie was the closest ive seein to a perfect movie ever...EVER!!!!!!!!!!! inglourious basterds>other nominees
  • movieraider321
    Avatar should not have won best drama.
  • Cody
    Cameron sucked on Hollywood's dick for the past year. That's the only reason he got anything, let alone allowed into the show. I hope Kathryn Bigelow (his ex-wife) cleans his ass out at the Oscars.
  • Alex T.
    Wooooooo Avatar. Hell yeah! I'm glad Avatar won best drama. You know why? Because every other movie that was nominated had one thing in common, they seemed to forced. When I watch movies like The Hurt Locker or movies like the Wrestler which seemed to win everything last year, I think to myself......wow this movie seems like it was only made to win awards and please critics. Movies like that make me sick. I'll be first to admit James Cameron himself was guilty of making a movie like this when he made Titanic. Once again I couldn't be happier Avatar won. Finally an awards show made a choice based on what the rest of the word was saying instead of giving another award to some movie about some middle aged screw up who falls in love with an equally screwed up woman. They actually voted for best movie based on what a movie should do, ENTERTAIN.
  • LeeMan
    Definitely surprised to see The Hangover win Best Picture. Would have actually preferred (500) Days of SUmmer
  • Jordan
    @46 You are totally right. I definitely think the IB should win best picture and I have seen most of the films likely to be nominated at the Oscars. However, for some reason it is going to have to be a dark horse victory. The main race right now seems to be between Avatar and The Hurt Locker with IB and Up In The Air just out of reach. However I think with IB's good performance at the Critic's Choice awards and more awards likely to come from SAG, possibly DGA, and PGA that IB has a shot to be the surprise winner of best picture and possibly director.
  • Mehran
    Avatar deserve it. I don't know why people can't differ directing from screenwriting.
  • The Hangover was about as funny as a pair of concrete shoes. What a fricken joke compared to (500) Days of Summer which was simply marvellous. And Avatar - best drama?? A predictable, heavy handed, over stated, unoriginal STORY wins best drama... you have got to be fricken joking. Next California will put an Austrian actor in charge. Wake up Hollywood and smell the bullshit.
  • tobi,leader of the akatsuki
    in best foreign film where was let the right one in that swedish vampire film was very good,i would highly reocemened it.
  • Lincoln
    Danielle Harris deserves an award too!
  • Hattori Hanzo
    Only saw The Hurt Locker this past weekend and before I saw it I thought that Inglorious Basterds was the best picture, but man, I have no problem with The Hurt Locker winning the Academy Award for best picture over Inglorious Basterds and coming from a Tarantino junkie, that's wasn't easy to say. As for Avatar, how can a CGI / FX movie win best director over Bigelow or Tarrantino? Avatar is closer to an animated movie than live action.
  • me
    I hope The Hurt Locker will win everything at the Oscars. At this "Sheet Zinc Globe Awards" THL was a laugh. I'm angry - I didn't think I would be because I know these awards don't tell the truth, but not a single award? Never mind.
  • I personally liked Inglourious Basterds way more than Avatar. Avatar is a bit overrated in my opinion.
  • Petoria
    Personally, I'm glad Avatar won. I'd rather see a watershed in fantasy win than a forgettable drama. This simply wasn't a good year for conventional dramas, unlike, say, 2008, when you had No Country, There Will be Blood, Atonement, etc. By the same token though, I would have been happy had other films been nominated and won, such as District 9, or, especially, Where the Wild Things Are (my favorite this year). Not to say I didn't like the other nominees to some extent (with the exception of Up in the Air, which reminded me a lot of that turd Crash--shallow, forgettable, but convinced of its importance); it's just that none stick out enough for me. Still, I suppose I can understand why someone would really want Inglorious; it was Tarantino firing on all cylinders. To me though, it's hard to know when to really honor his work, since all his movies have roughly the same style. Of course, Pulp should have won everything, but I wouldn't want to award Inglorious just to make up for that; that's what the lifetime achievement awards he'll win are for.
  • Darunia
    SO let me get this straight. It's exciting to see Avatar win drama, but Hangover winning best comedy is a travesty. ANYBODY SEEING THE HYPOCRISY HERE?
  • mike
    wow.... hurt locker should have won best drama and best director and best actor.
  • Audrei
    Hurt Locker should've won for what was a REALLY WEAK YEAR. It wasn't amazing, but it was the best of the bunch.
  • dave13
    James Cameron for best director, fine. I'd agree. Best drama? No. and I love that movie, but it is not the best "drama." Hurt Locker hands down was the best. Never knew what to expect in that movie, and it never disappointed. Also, the Comedy/Musical category confuses me. but whatever. Reasons why I never watch this show. What a joke.
  • Caitie
    I thought it was a pretty decent year and anyone who says Avatar dose not deserve that award can suck it, James Cameron worked his butt off on it and that was probably the most deserving win of the night. The most upsetting win was definitely the Hangover winning over 500 Days of Summer, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And by the way whoever says Avatar had a bad screenplay his dead wrong. Dialogue isn't the only thing that goes into a screenplay. That's the first thing James Cameron started with to go into making Pandora, it's the point of creating that world and making it almost seem real. That's what can really make an excellent screenplay. Anyway though I was pretty satisfied with this year and Ricky Gervais did a great job by the way.
  • Jezza
    The Hangover wins Best Picture over Nine? Wow I didn't see that one coming. Golden Globe bait my arse, Warner Bros. beat Weinstein at their own game. TAKE THAT WEINERSTEINS.
  • Andrew
    Woooo Hoooo! Boo Yah haters! While they are also good movies, try to tell me that Hurt Locker wasn't formulaic, or that you didn't think Shoshanna was going to be successful at the end of Inglorious Basterds. The haters love to say "simple story" or "I've seen it before, it was Dances with Wolves". Aside from the fact that Dances with Wolves was a fan-TASTIC movie (and won awards too btw), the point of the movie is not suspense thriller, or twist-ending. You want one of those movies, go watch one. 99% of the time, you want to guess how a movie turns out, Good Guys win, Bad Guys lose. Or in the case of Hurt Locker, the drama-formula: Group of guys. Partner gets blown up. Befriend native, who dies. Tears are jerked. You are all missing the point. It is the ART of STORYTELLING, which Hurt Locker also did well, but not uniquely special. The point is not "Gee I wonder what the twist ending is", it is taking you on a ride, showing you how the story goes. And when you understand this, you see why Avatar wins. Sorry chumps.
  • Cineprog
    Congrats to James Cameron for Avatar, Including Best Director also Robert Downey JR for Sherlock holmes, Sandra Bullock for the Blind Side, Meryl Streep for Julie and Julia also Martin Scorsese who gets lifetime achievement award Cecil B Demille award.
  • Petoria
    #66-You read my mind.
  • germs
    Avatar for drama? 3d robbed it of any drama that might have been present. The movie was eye candy with a big moral lesson looming in the background. I'll give him best director, because I don't think any of those other nom. directors can direct a movie like Avatar. Every other category I really felt indifferent to who would win. (except Waltz.)
  • movieguyryan
    Deserving Wins -Monique (Sup Actress) -Christoph Waltz (Sup Actor) -Jeff Bridges (Actor) -Meryl Streep (Actress Com/Mus) Non Deserving Wins -Robert Downy Jr (Actor Com/Mus): Should have been Matt Damon -Sandra Bullock (Actress): Should have been Carey Mulligan -AVATAR (BEST PICTURE): Should of been Up in the Air/but I would accep the Hurt Locker or Inglorious as well. Explain something to me. A best picture in my mind is a great film with the combinations of fantastic acting, great writing, and good direction. How does a film like Avatar win a best picture without being recognized in really any of the other categories. While Avatar achieved a new level of technical achievement and gave us a film with special effects we have never seen before-blah blah blah blah blah. Come on people. The film was the most expensive, the most popular, but you cannot look me in the eye and say yes Avatar was a better film than Up in the Air, The Hurt Locker, or Inglorious Basterds, and if you can than you are probably someone who like Glenn Beck or thinks Jeff Dunham is funny, something is wrong with you is what I'm saying.
  • Andrew
    #70 - I'll explain it to you. They still don't fully accept motion capture performances as legitimate or deserving awards. If that was relevant in the past, it definitely is not now, with the way they captured Saldana's performance. She deserves best leading actress, but was simply not "able" to be considered. That is how a film like Avatar wins best picture without being recognized for best Actress. She simply wasn't allowed to be considered. Sorry.
  • Jack Novelli
    @49, 52, 59, 64, and especially 66! You're all certainly entitled to your opinions, but you fail to understand just how political award shows are and how they really work. As I stated before, James Cameron has a history of arrogance and Avatar is just the latest example of a director/writer plagiarizing someone else's ideas. Science fiction writer Harlan Ellison, sued James Cameron for stealing Terminator from him. Ellison won in court and had to be acknowledged as a source of inspiration for elements of The Terminator films. What Cameron could have done was thank all of those who helped bring Avatar to life. Instead, he showboated himself, boasting that he is the greatest entertainer in the world! Cameron is an emotional retard! The man has no modesty what so ever. No wonder he's on his 5th marriage. Yes, it's true, Jim Cameron can build one hell of a pyramid, but he's seems somewhat disillusioned about all those that contributed to his success. When you spend your entire career using other people to harness your vision, eventually you find yourself isolated and alone. Like many others of his caliber, he's going to learn that it's lonely at the top.
  • movieguyryan
    71- Oh I wasn't saying its BS that Avatar didn't get nominated in other categories, I'm saying that I understand why they wern't nominated in other categories, because it was just average work. I'm saying that Avatar is BS for winning best picture. Because other than the technical aspect of the film, the rest is just simply passable.
  • Andrew
    #72 - To think that Avatar came from anyone else but James Cameron is just sour grapes. He created this. He was on 8 hour conference calls with Weta constantly. "No, do it this way. No, do it that way. It needs to look like this! That's not how a helicopter would land!" Before becoming a director he worked in the effects department, then ran the Art Department on other productions. HE is responsible for what you see on the screen. You think he had his director of photography shoot Avatar? No, HE held the camera. (That HE invented btw). Hardly ANY so-called "Big Time" directors hold their own cameras anymore. You always see the press shots of Spielberg holding up his little viewfinder or sitting on the crane. MOST of the time it's the DP. He drew much of the concept art. He was in the editing room constantly. HE was taking light readings and setting up shots. You really should learn a little more about James Cameron than what the media tell you. If you were to achieve all that, and then receive 11 Oscars, you WOULD feel like the king of the world. I am sorry you are jealous, but to deny him a celebration after achievements like Titanic and Avatar is just sad. Also, the Terminator credit was bogus. His hand was forced, as it was his FIRST movie, had ZERO dollars to fight the court case, and Orion settled. It was a completely bogus cash grab. It was also settlement, not a "win in court". Ellison claimed he "drew on" material from two _different_ episodes of "The Outer Limits", "Soldier" and "Demon with a Glass Hand". Read those and see if you get "Terminator". It was a complete powerplay. Pshaw to you. Do some reading.
  • Andrew
    Also, all that _input_ I describe above... THAT is what makes him "difficult". That is what others interpret as "arrogant". He just knows how to do it better than you. Whether you be a director of photography, art director, effects supervisor. And you know what? When he is the boss on set, he will boot you out of the way and do it himself. And then the poor grips go home and QQ.
  • Alex T.
    @ Andrew. I couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for speaking up and saying what alot of us were thinking. If anyone is an arrogant asshole its George Clooney. Screw any movie he is in.
  • Tinman
    The biggest reason for the ridiculously high numbers Avatar is generated is the cost of the tickets. Considering that IMAX tickets tend to be double the cost of regular tickets it becomes very easy to get numbers as fast as it has. I'm not saying it isn't a pretty blue and green movie but I'd like to see the numbers compared to Titanic once you equalize the number of screens and ticket prices. once those numbers come in, then I'll believe it is as amazing as people are making it out to be. On a side note, now that Cameron has announced he's making a sequel, how long will this one take to be released? And back on topic; I quite enjoy Robert Downey Jr but I don'tthink he was that great in Sherlock Holmes. I thought Jude Law was better. And Avatar for best picture? Definitely would not have been my choice.
  • Jack Novelli
    @Andrew #74 - I've read American Cinematographer and Cinefex just like you have. Not to worry, I've done my homework but until you have actually worked with Jim as I have, you have no idea what sort of egomaniac this man really is. I never scolded him for his innovative work but to think that Jim is responsible for every bit of Avatar is unrealistic. No jealousy here, I'm just stating what you fail to recognize because that would require you to actually think for your self. It's easier for you to just jump on the band wagon because you obviously don't have a clue how a film comes together. Don't worry, Jim will be celebrating all the way to the bank, especially with morons like you seeing the film multiple time. Yeah the Terminator credit was bogus, just like the story "Call Me Joe" by Poul Anderson that Cameron pilfered was. By the way, Terminator wasn't his first film so perhaps it is you that needs to research things a little more thoroughly before you make contrived claims. Cameron created Avatar just like God created the universe. You can read as many periodicals as you'd like but the bottom line is that until you experience James Cameron's wrath up close and personal, you have no idea what you are talking about. Jim's nothing more than a school yard bully and your sick obsession with him just demonstrates your ignorance. On that note Andrew, I must bid you farewell but it is my hope that you continue to enjoy sucking on Jimbo's dick Fanboy because that's what you seem to do best.
  • Andrew
    Wow Jack, such hateful talk. It must be a real downer living your life. I don't think he created _every_ bit, but it is the realization of his vision, and he bent everyone to his will in order for it to show up on the screen. But you knew that. =) Terminator WAS his first film as director, sorry to say. If you are talking about Piranha II being his first film? He was director on that movie for 2 weeks. Then he was fired. Then he insisted his name be removed from the film so as not to be tarnished by what was about to be an Italian producer-gone-wannabe director skin flick. You really do need to learn a little bit about the guy you supposedly worked for. Of course, if you did work for him, I completely understand your envy. You were probably in charge of putting up the lights or something, he called you an idiot, and he did it himself. LOL. You probably cried that night. Sorry bub. Oh, and by the way. You are a moron too. As long as we are going to sink to that level. =) See ya, chump.
  • jknovelli
    @Andrew #79 Life is great! Especially since I don't live bending everyone to my will in order for them to see my vision. Your opinion is dully noted but I really can give a shit what you think. We all see what we want to see and apparently you are the authority on everything James Cameron. You got me there buddy, what can I say, you've got your nose in his crack and you like it there. My affiliation with Jim spans many years and several films. The resentment for Jim is shared by many of his creative team who have worked into the late hours of the night to appease him. His vision is shared by all but he has no respect for the talent that he employees and takes credit for things that are not his own. He's an arrogant SOB that could have still celebrated them same success by simply treating his colleges with decency. The man is incapable of having a healthy relationship with anyone and it is no surprise that he has seen mutiny on his ship on more than one occasion. Hate to burst your bubble, but your savior had a lot of help on this one. Now Piss off before I give ya half a sissy slap you little bitch.
  • Andrew
    Wow, you had a decent post going there, until the last sentence. I was thinking about my reply as I read it and I was going to give you the cred for sounding like you had actually worked for him, and had gone through the difficulty of working with him. But now you sound like a 5 year old, so you are a forum troll, no more. You seriously killed any credibility you had talking like that. I can't imagine you are out of your twenties with such a mouth. Which means you worked with James Cameron on exactly 0 projects. Sorry again, chump.
  • Jack Novelli
    Really? I had a decent post going there, until the last sentence? Ok, I guess if you think sticking your nose in Cameron's crack is decent. You said it, not me. Also, don't assume that everyone in Hollywood is credible or act their age. Most people in the industry are emotionally stunted, including myself. All of those years working with all of those inflated egos takes its toll. One can only reside in fantasy land for so long until things start to really become distorted. Reality escapes most people in the entertainment industry and they really become disconnected with the everyday average person. Hollywood is the most competitive business on earth and being part of it isn't as glamorous as you would think. Just imagine some of the happiest moments that you have ever seen on screen and know that Hollywood is just the opposite. It was the Jews in Hollywood that created the American Dream. You know, "The Father Knows Best" scenario where everyone lives happily ever after in their dream home with the white picket fence. "Oh, how we all yearn for the good o'l days." The only problem is, that there were no "good o'l days!" It was the Hollywood Jews dream of the way they wish things were. The American Dream was a lie! Get it? Cameron and his ilk are the dream makers just as long as you keep them well fed. But they are also the makers of nightmares and use their power to keep independent thinkers subdued. It's just about the haves and have nots, that's it. So you see, I have worked with Jimbo for a very long time and he really is a hard ass. Just like Saddam Hussein was the only SOB that could hold together Iraq, so it is that only a guy like James Cameron could bring you Avatar. But that doesn't mean that I have to like him or pay him any respect. So enough of the hero worship already. I apologize for having to be the bearer of bad news because I know the movies are a means of escape, but the truth of the matter is that there were a lot of people who were emotionally abused while making this film and all because Jimbo had a vision that he could turn a old Sci Fi novel into a film of his own. Enough said.
  • Alex T.
    @ Andrew. Andrew do yourself a favor and ignore Jack. You said it yourself, its pretty obvious he doesn't work in Hollywood. He's made it pretty clear himself as well. If he truly worked on movies and had the kind of experiences at work alluded to in this segment: ["Hollywood is the most competitive business on earth and being part of it isn't as glamorous as you would think. Just imagine some of the happiest moments that you have ever seen on screen and know that Hollywood is just the opposite."] why the hell would he spend his free time on a website thats basically dedicated to the products of the job he hates? It doesn't make any sense. Why would he use his precious free time reminding himself of the horrors that wait for him back at work? He wouldn't unless he was entirely insane. So either way everything he says is meaningless. Either he has never worked on films in his life, or he belongs in a mental institution. @ Jack Novelli. Jack you really don't help get your own argument. The next time you try making the argument that someone is an arrogant asshole, don't make yourself look like one by using childish antics like name calling. When you do things like that it really just makes what you say pointless because people won't take you seriously. In the end you're just proving that you've got no ground to say Cameron is an "arrogant SOB" because you yourself are one. By the way there is "emotional abuse" AT EVERY JOB. If someone's not doing what they are payed to do the way their boss wants it done than they should expect no less than to be corrected or screamed at. By the way you really defeat yourself on this matter as well. Why should any of us pay attention to someone scream about the "emotional abuse" brought on by directors while at the same time he is TRYING to "emotionally abuse" someone else on the forum. I stress the trying part of that because the last time I've counted saying something along the lines of "YOU SUCK A PENIS HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA" as a good insult, I was in grade school.
  • Petoria
    Up in the Air really sucked. Didn't deserve any award.
  • Jack Novelli
    @83 - Very good advice for Andrew. At least there is someone in this forum that has some brains. No argument here. It really doesn't matter who wins the Golden Globes as it has no affect on my life what so ever. I could care less and didn't even watch the show. I just commented at this forum for shits and giggles. That's it. How I spend is my time is my own business, so just in case you feel that I'm wasting my time, keep in mind that so are you. If you had any sort of lives you wouldn't even be posting on the blog. I'm just passing through folks jotting down meaningless banter like #83 said. It amazes how some of you can get so caught up about what an absolute stranger thinks. Who cares...so what! Everyone has an opinion, were all just talking heads speculating on everything. None of you know shit about any of this but you will continue to chatter at this web site about absolute nonsense, therefore, you're no better than I. The fine line between insanity and genius is very thin my friends. Who's to say what normal is any way? Oh no you don't I'm not going to get sucked into another philosophical conversation. I've wasted enough time at this forum trying to amuse my self and frankly it just wasn't that great. Now that the weather is better, I can now shut off this computer and go do something constructive outside. Cheers. Jack Novelli
  • Jack Novelli
    Very good advice for Andrew. At least there is someone in this forum (#83) that has some brains. No argument here. It really doesn't matter who wins the Golden Globes as it has no affect on my life what so ever. I could care less and didn't even watch the show. I just commented at this forum for shits and giggles. That's it. How I spend is my time is my own business, so just in case you feel that I'm wasting my time, keep in mind that so are you. If you had any sort of lives you wouldn't even be posting on the blog. I'm just passing through folks jotting down meaningless banter like #83 said. It amazes how some of you can get so caught up about what an absolute stranger thinks. Who cares...so what! Everyone has an opinion, were all just talking heads speculating on everything. None of you know shit about any of this but you will continue to chatter at this web site about absolute nonsense, therefore, you're no better than I. The fine line between insanity and genius is very thin my friends. Who's to say what normal is any way? Oh no you don't I'm not going to get sucked into another philosophical conversation. I've wasted enough time at this forum trying to amuse my self and frankly it just wasn't that great. Now that the weather is better, I can now shut off this computer and go do something constructive outside. Cheers. Jack Novelli
  • jknovell
    Good advice for Andrew. At least there is someone in this forum (#83) that has some brains. No argument here. It really doesn't matter who wins the Golden Globes as it has no affect on my life what so ever. I could care less and didn't even watch the show. I just commented at this forum for shits and giggles. That's it. How I spend is my time is my own business, so just in case you feel that I'm wasting my time, keep in mind that so are you. If you had any sort of lives you wouldn't even be posting on the blog. I'm just passing through folks jotting down meaningless banter like #83 said. It amazes how some of you can get so caught up about what an absolute stranger thinks. Who cares...so what! Everyone has an opinion, were all just talking heads speculating on everything. None of you know shit about any of this but you will continue to chatter at this web site about absolute nonsense, therefore, you're no better than I. The fine line between insanity and genius is very thin my friends. Who's to say what normal is any way? Oh no you don't I'm not going to get sucked into another philosophical conversation. I've wasted enough time at this forum trying to amuse my self and frankly it just wasn't that great. Now that the weather is better, I can now shut off this computer and go do something constructive outside. Cheers. Jack Novelli
  • Alex T.
    @Jack. No one is wasting their time as long as they are doing something they like. I love movies so talking about movies in a forum isn't a waste of my time. It's easy to make anything sound like a waste of time. I can just as easily make anything someone does outside sound like a meaningless activity. My point wasn't even that you were wasting your free time. My point was that its stupid for you, someone who has suggested he hates his job working on films, to spend time off of work reminding himself of sed job. It doesn't make sense. For instance, if a kid hates history he wouldn't go home from school and watch a special about King Tut. Please don't try to play all this off like it was just for "shits and giggles". If that was true why would you need to edit and post the same comment 3 times in a row? What is this your thesis? Lastly, don't make it sound like people are over-reacting to your opinion alone. You've just been constantly baiting Andrew with childish insults. As I said before the insults are pretty lame, but that doesn't mean people are going to roll over and just take it. But you knew that, it was always your intent to get someone mad, right? You should have just come out and said you were looking for a fight, macho man. Since you liked my advice for Andrew I'm gonna leave you with some. Buy a heavy bag. I've got one. It's great. You can take all your anger and frustrations out on an inanimate object instead of targeting someone online. Peace, and good luck to you.
  • Andrew
    LOL! Jack needs an editor, bad!
  • Alex T.
    Andrew you could have easily just walked away. But now you just made yourself look as bad as Jack with that last comment. I'm going to suggest that you go out and buy a heavy bag as well.
  • Andrew
    Alex, you are right. I will take your advice. I just thought it was funny that there was 3 posts. And then the editor comment popped into my head. Sorry. Again, you're right. Moving on. Enjoy the movies guys. =)
  • Jack Novelli
    @ Alex T. & Andrew: Sorry for the multiple posts. I submitted my post three times and it never appeared at the forum. Even slightly changed my name as you can see for yourselves. Just figured that I was blocked from the forum, but I guess not. Glad my message reached you fellas. It probably would just be best to let this alone, but you guys just don't quit, do you? Have to have the last word I suppose. Alex, I'm happy to hear that this web site has been an outlet for you. You can talk about movies until your heart is content. You can watch movies, discuss movies, read about movies, write about movies. This is the place where you can communicate with like minded fellows. What I meant to say was how marvelous movies are not meaningless. Its not stupid for me to whine, bitch and complain about my job because that's what most people do. Actually I love my job but it has nothing to do with the entertainment industry. That's the point that I was trying to make and apparently you missed somewhere along the way. You're right, a kid that hates history wouldn't go home from school and watch a special about King Tut, instead he would watch "The Mummy Returns." It really all has just been for "shits and giggles," sorry if you thought it was something more. Sooo serious... and protecting Andrew from childish insults. I appreciate someone who stands up for the underdog, a true cyber friend who won't roll over and just take it in the ass. Good thing you have that heavy bag to beat on so that you ease your mind of the loneliness that consumes you. Well, at least you have your internet pals to discuss movies with, that should ease the boredom. Plus, once Andrew gets a heavy bag, maybe you can both workout together. Enjoy.
  • Alex T.
    @ Jack. Grow up. It's over. Andrew's done with this and I'm done with this. If you need someone to say you win just to make this stop, than I'll be glad to do it. You win. We loose. We are all just morons and we should bow before you. We are sorry we questioned your infallibility. I personally have decided I want to give you the congratulatory gift of the last word. Please have it. Post one last bit of wisdom for me and everyone else reading to live our lives by and I promise I won't respond with anything but a sense of bewilderment when I read it. PS. I'd rather be alone than a liar. {"don't assume that everyone in Hollywood is credible or act their age. Most people in the industry are emotionally stunted, including myself." ---------"Actually I love my job but it has nothing to do with the entertainment industry"}. Congratulations. Your disciple for life, Alex
  • Alex T.
    Oh yeah, and don't forget to turn off your computer when you're done this time.
  • Petoria
    "...you cannot look me in the eye and say yes Avatar was a better film than Up in the Air, The Hurt Locker, or Inglorious Basterds, and if you can than you are probably someone who like Glenn Beck or thinks Jeff Dunham is funny, something is wrong with you is what I'm saying." This has got to be the dumbest statistical claim I've ever heard.
  • Reality
    Do you people realise that you've just blown close to 8000 words on a pointless opinion based argument with people you don't even know in an effort to make your opinion right. Don't any of you work for a living, have a life, etc? Also consider in about one week, two days, nineteen minutes and sixteen seconds nobody will ever come back to this page again because Avatar will have grossed over 2 billion dollars and people will be talking about that instead.
  • julian
    People be trippin with the long extended comments D:
  • Governor
    #36 - Kevin They're the same length fool, lol. #46 - nathan drake You need to watch WAY more movies if IB's the closest you've seen to a perfect film.
  • 1-7
    #74 - Andrew Nice post, but I can not tolerate people making asses of themselves. If you ever attempt to badmouth Spielberg again I'll mutilate your genitals.

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