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Woah, awesome response dude. And apologies on the delay. I was working and doing more important things with my life (so much for me being a mooch, huh?) So, uh, wow. You just threw alot of shit up on the wall and I guess your strategy is to see what sticks. I can agree with you that she is not the sole-cause of our problems by a long shot. Hell, she's more than likely irrelevant given that removing her from popularity would do functionally nothing to improve the situation in America. Finally, your assumption that I placed the blame squarely at her feet for all of the problems of America is just proof that you are, infact, an idiot. I simply said she has influenced 30 years of bankrupt moral/economic policy; this is simply to indicate that Libertarianism is lacking in valuable qualities/characteristics, as per the definition of the adjective "bankrupt." So when you read my response and think "well, hurr hurrr hurrrr, this leech didn't respond to any of my crap on the Federal Reserve, Catholic Church or the world being opposite the beliefs of Rand so fuck whatever he writes, I refuse to listen to it;" don't. All you have proven is that you are incapable of any sort of intellectually precise or valid rebuttals. So, to clarify what I mean by bankrupt policy. Starting in the 1980's, decreased government regulation and maximization of freedom for the individual became the marching orders of the day. Let's face it, these concepts which find themselves largely given voice by the works of Rand(though she wouldn't consider herself a libertarian) are really just code for "fuck you, got mine." This is why you have people like Clarence Thomas forcing all of his staffers to have read The Fountainhead and Shrugged. Or the Koch brothers establishing the Tea Party/funding libertarian think tanks which use Rand as a basis for their economic research/propaganda. So, why the fuck does this matter? Because these groups drive for deregulation of financial markets and workers rights so that they can maximize profits. So they are not punished for "earning to much." Unfortunately this push for dereg has wrecked havoc on the world over. The 2008 housing bubble was largely influenced by deregulations in lending practices and mortgage accounting, in addition to fucked up policies on securities. When cities and states invested pensions or funds into securities they thought were AAA, they lost alot of money when the system blew up. Now people are blaming the loss of money on shit like government largesse when instead it was straight up stolen from them through shady accounting practices. But sure, we've made some minor changes to the way we handled crap from a government level and the courts are doing a surprisingly good job on removing MERS(if you don't know it, google it.) This push for profit and personal freedom has also drastically changed the way we handle commodities. If you want to know why gas prices are rising despite the fact that production levels have stayed reasonably static, all you have to do is look changes that were made to allow for more speculation. This bubble silently popped in 2008, as it was masked by the much more dramatic housing bubble. The commodities bubble alone is terrible, since it causes starvation as speculation drives up the price of basic foodstuffs like wheat, soya beans, and rice. But the housing bubble was a straight up transfer of wealth from the middle and bottom to the top. The top being filled with people who espouse Galt as a hero. So, you know, when I say 30 years of bankrupt policy I mean it. And if you really don't believe me, I'll sit down someday in the future and write up a fucking essay explaining why Reagan and his pals set the stage for dereg/poverty on the levels we see it at today.