Josh Pence Apparently Playing Ra's Al Ghul in 'The Dark Knight Rises'

April 8, 2011
Source: THR

Josh Pence / Ra's Al Ghul

Whoa - big casting news for The Dark Knight Rises. THR is reporting that Josh Pence, the actor who played Tyler Winklevoss in The Social Network, at least physically some times (not the face), has been cast in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight Rises. THR claims that he'll be playing the role of a young Ra's Al Ghul, which is a bit of an odd reveal because it must mean there's a flashback or some other big twist. THR adds: "Also, while the studio never confirmed [Marion] Cotillard's character, it has been rumored to be that of Thalia Al Ghul." With Hathaway, Hardy and Gordon-Levitt as well, this is quite a cast they're amassing.

Here's what THR says: "sources say Pence will appear in scenes that take place 30 years prior to the present story." So he's part of a flashback sequence and will only have another fairly small role, but this is very interesting news nonetheless. A flashback setting up Ra's Al Ghul for some more Gotham mayhem in the third movie? Quite intriguing indeed. I'm not really able to speak about Pence yet because I haven't truly seen him work, but I think this may be his chance to shine. Maybe this the prologue sequence being shot in IMAX that we'll see in advance of the release? Who knows. Either way, we'll definitely continue to keep you updated on The Dark Knight Rises, especially as more is revealed. Thoughts on Pence as Ra's Al Ghul?

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  • wow intriguing indeed!
  • Anonymous
    Liam Neeson really gave the first movie credibility
    • Anonymous
      But Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Tom Wilkinson and the rest didn't?
    • JL
      Liam Neeson gave Ra's al Ghul credibility.
      • Noct
        Liam Neeson wasn't Ras Al Ghul dude
        • Cody W.
          Watch Begins again dude....yes he was.
        • archie_charles4
          yes he was obviously you do not know much about this movie so leave your thoughts out of this blog
        • Drbjhfbase
          are you a nimrod??? all answers point to yes;-)
          • Voice of Reason
  • Davidarthurwall
    Great casting.
    • runnerx13
      Really? Ra's over over 500 years old, he wasn't a pretty boy 30 years ago.
      • Steve
        I do not think that Nolan ever used the concept of Ra's Al Ghul as a 500 year old.....the character played by Liam Neeson was of a man that used the title of Ra's Al Ghul.
      • Gordon
        Yeah over 700 years old but in the Nolan Batman Universe he is trying to keep away from the un-natural and set it in the real world so Ra's is just a normal guy with no Lazarus Pits, Scarecrow and Joker just normal Humans and I'll assume that Bane will be on some form of steriod so he will prob be huge but not comic bane huge and again just an assumption but catwoman will either be just a skilled cat burgular and not a metahuman as per comic version
        • Dennis25
          Makes sense to me Gordon because it works "Upset the established order an everything becomes chaos"
  • I trust Nolan... I trust Nolan. Keep saying that to myself.
    • Me too, me too... I think I'm going to make "In Nolan We Trust" t-shirts sometime soon.
      • Hey Alex, maybe it has been discused before, but I just noticed in that Katie Holmes is credited as Elaine Dawes... Do you know what's up with that?
  • MauryBrown
    This confuses me: Are we going to see Katie Holmes play her character's own mother in the flashbacks as well? A sister seems like a cop-out and way too many love interests for Wayne.
    • Anonymous
      WTF are you talking about?
      • Alkatron
        On IMDB it shows that katey holmes is playing the role of Elaine Dawes for The Dark Knight Rises
        • Footintherest
          IMDB is run by fanboys.
  • Cruzer
    I can't wait for this, he actually looks like Liam Neeson quite a bit. Perhaps we will see flashbacks of him talking one of his children? That could possibly allude the audience "whoever" this child is will seek revenge on Batman. I'd like to see that.
  • tra la la la la di da
    Ra changed his age or did we forget that?
    • JL
      The Lazarus Pit doesn't apply here. In Nolan's movies, all of the characters are like real people. There is no supernatural, and though some of the elements do tend to reach a little beyond what's currently technologically possible, there is no super villain, no mystical pit of glowing juice, and no immortal man who will come back from the grave looking younger than he did when he crashed a monorail train.
      • WritersBlock
        I guess no super soldier experiments using vast amounts of a substance which only requires one drop to render a man useless doesn't apply here either right? Just stfu! You're talking about a director who filmed an entire chase scene with IMAX cameras not to mention he made a van fall for almost thirty minutes and we liked it! No one knows what to expect from this guy! He's completely unpredictable. We can only speculate. ....Your comments remind me of those who said Ra's would never work in a live action Batman universe ever before he did it with Batman Begins! So please, do all of us a favor and leave your DC/Nolan P.h.D . at home. You're just as in the dark as we are!
        • JL
          Why are you talking about super soldiers and what is this substance you speak of? And what does an entire chase scene filmed in IMAX have to do with Ra's al Ghul? Also, that van falling into the water was part of a DREAM in 'Inception'. And hey, I'm not one of those people who said Ra's al Ghul wouldn't work in live action, although I admit I didn't know to expect Nolan would deliver Batman Begins with that much believability. Especially after the previous two iterations were completely homo-erotic, campy, and with as much appeal to the mind as stool water. What I'm saying is that bringing the supernatural into this franchise at this point would be stupid. And as for your comment that "No one knows what to expect from this guy!," I do know to expect him not to do the obviously stupid and unbelievable thing of bringing back a dead man, only younger this time, because he went and visited his little fountain of youth. By the way, don't get so worked up next time somebody says something you disagree with and go on a rant that isn't logical or applicable to the conversation.
    • Dennis25
      He's not changing his age its not a flashback it's the Lazarus Pit that makes Ra's Al Ghul appear young in the present!!! Hello!!
  • Tye1119
    I call bull on the flashback, I mean "just" the flashback. Ra is going to have a sweet cup of that lazarus juice.
  • Inzider
    Bros this isn't a flashback. The villain inceptions Batmans dreams of Ra when he is younger. Then Ra gets to see his kids, and Batman doesnt know if its a draem or not. THEN we realize that wasnt the movie at all. That is just a dream of Batmans.
    • Lol I really wish that was actually the story Nolan came up with haha!
  • Cracky
    Yeah, Nolan's cool and all, but I hate flashbacks. Seriously. And a Batman flashback is rare. This movie is starting to sound overstuffed-- and I doubt it will have the run-time to give justice to three (or fucking four) villains. I hope I'm wrong.
    • I agree. As much as I like TDK I felt Two-Face was rushed. He was a nice character and to kill him off after 30 minutes seemed to me like a waste of a future story line.
      • JL
        Dude, with half of his body burned to a crisp like that, he would be dead soon anyway.
  • Joshua
    I think their fucking with us, just to keep us guessing! 😛
  • Anthony
    I don't know why people are freaking out about this. It's probably only going to be like a five minute flashback out of a 150 minute movie. It's not like they're adding another major character.
  • Vito
    Ras witnesses his wife murdered. He avenges his wife by killing the person. He goes to prison and in the process leaves his young daughter alone in the world, growing up like Bruce...her name is Talia. In prison, Ras really develops his ideals....he finds his very protege...a protege that will lead what will become the League. He is an adolescent by the name of Bane who has lots of potential. Ras serves as a father figure to him, encouraging him to educate himself and train in any way possible. Inspires him to be in peak condition.
    • tir na nog
      Then what? I like that storyline...where does catwoman fit in?
      • Vito
        Cat Woman is a high stakes thief. She enjoys the thrill of it and she enjoys the elite status it has helped her achieve. Her and Bruce get to know each other through their social circles. They may come to realize who the other really is, and it will create an interesting subtext when you see them interact in public. Almost toying with each other. Or maybe one toying with the other, while the other pursues. Bruce will be conflicted by Selina...she is a criminal, but there are aspects of her that are worthy and admirable...she will be useful ally to him although he may not expect it at first.
        • Cody W.
          Gotta say out of all the predictions this is the most rock solid one Ive seen...+1 for you sir.
        • tir na nog
          great stuff...what happens at the end?
          • Vito
            a Shakespearean tragedy. would you guys be mad if you found out I read the script and just revealed the actual plot? lol
  • Tim
    I've got goosebumps waiting for yet another Nolan masterpiece. I cannot wait!
  • Richie G
    maybe this is a new Ra's Al Ghul. I mean I got the impression from the first movie that Ra's Al Ghul was a title like Caesar rather than a man
  • cobbsdream
    It's probably just setting up Talia's character. A scene similar to Begins in which her mother gets murdered and R'as fails to stop it.
  • Rogue627
    The whole mystique of Ra's Al Ghul is that he is hundred if not thousands of years old... This seems perfectly in line with that concept. I cannot wait to see what Nolan does here...
  • capedcrusader
    i believe in nolan...
  • Manuel
    All the info it's just wrong. This guy will play Ambush Bug. Love you, Cris.
  • BinaryChaos
    In Nolan we trust...
  • happy camper
    i hope its not another Batman and Robin... to many villains will spoil the pot
  • Rpin
    Ras Al Ghul in Nolan's film was weak compared to the comics and the animated series. Poor understanding of the character. An even poorer interpretation leading to an anti-climatic end in Batman Begins. But still it is far superior than Green Lantern will ever be.
  • Cmo
    Props to u vito ur predictions are actually pretty creative and realistic compared to the other hundreds ive read since the dark knight ended...
  • I think it's a good cast!




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