Kevin Smith Has Seen Ben Affleck as Batman + Lex Luthor Confirmed?

November 11, 2013
Source: Kevin Smith, ScreenCrush

Batman vs. Superman

This past weekend, a fan event for Man of Steel took place with Kevin Smith hosting a chat with director Zack Snyder and the film's stars Henry Cavill and Amy Adams in order to hype the release of the DC Comics reboot hitting shelves tomorrow. And while there wasn't any concept art revealed for Batman vs. Superman (it ended up being art being given away for a contest), a couple tidbits have surfaced from the weekend which should get fans excited. First up, Smith revealed on his Hollywood Babble-On podcast (via ComicBookMovie) that not only has he seen the new Batman suit for the sequel, he's seen Ben Affleck in it.

Speaking on his podcast, Smith is all excitable for fans to see the suit;

"I saw the Batman costume. More than that I saw a picture of [Affleck] in the costume. Now, I don't want to give anything away ’cause that is up to them and stuff, but I am going to say this, I instantly bear hugged [Snyder]. You have not seen this costume in a movie on film before, and for a comic book fan it was mind bending. I was like 'Get out of here, only you have enough power to pull this off.' Because everyone always like does this Matrix/X-Men black armor. It was fantastic. I'm already a flag waver for this movie, but the costume, it blew my mind. I think everyone is just gonna be like, 'Holy shit!' It's its own thing, man. It's like we haven't been down this path at all. I was so elated. Even the hardest core “fuck all this” person will be like, 'Alright, I'm ready.'"

If the suit is unlike anything we've seen before, maybe we'll finally get the gray suit that we've seen in stories like The Dark Knight Returns or "Batman: The Animated Series." Smith is just as much a fanboy as any Batman supporter on the Internet, so it's hard to say how excited fans should get, but if it's a version of the costume that hasn't been used on film before, then that's an interesting start. But the hype doesn't end there. Despite the fact that rumors have swirled around casting for the Superman villain Lex Luthor to appear in the sequel, that has yet to be confirmed. However, Snyder may have let something slip.

In a conversation about Superman's space origins (via ScreenCrush), Snyder commented, "At its core, Superman is an alien. He comes from an alien world. Lex loves to call him an alien." Smith's response was, "That’s a spoiler, folks.” We're not sure how much Smith knows at this point, but if he's hosting this event, and he's seen Affleck in the Batsuit, it's likely he has some story details. This is about the closest we'll get to confirmation about Lex Luthor showing up in the sequel that we'll get for now, but as for names like Bryan Cranston or Mark Strong being courted for the role, we'll have to wait a bit longer.

But what about some story details? Well, the title implies that Superman and Batman will certainly be at odds, and Snyder hints at how they become involved with each other in the film, "Part of the fun of the idea [is] to be able to sort of play with that relationship, whether they’re fighting or they become friends. That’s the fun of making movies and playing with this mythology. Of course, there will be some physical conflicts, as well.” However, some fans may question as to how Superman deals with the destruction of Metropolis, or more importantly, killing General Zod, an element that some fans have complained about.

Snyder addressed the concern of the latter saying, “Maybe we’ll see the repercussions of that in the next film.” But along the topic of the destruction of the city, where Snyder estimates that about 5,000 people died (it seems like it should be more), he says that was an integral part of the climax and will impact Superman in the future. "For me, that was part of it. No, there’s real consequences. Not to compare, but if you look at The Avengers, they trash the city and nobody thinks about how many people are dying.” To be fair, entire city blocks weren't completely destroyed in The Avengers and the damage was contained to a much smaller area of New York. But Snyder adds, "There’s a sadness at the end of the movie. That’s a thing that weighs on Superman." Perhaps the destruction is something that Batman lays into Superman about. Stay tuned for anymore Batman vs. Superman updates as we wait for the film to arrive on July 17th, 2015.

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  • im pumped
  • Lagoya
    This basically confirms he is going to have the grey-blue colour combination, which isn't a bad thing
  • Anon
    I saw the fan event live. The lex comment is completely out of context. kevin smith was the first one who says lex loves to call him an alien and then snyder agrees. and then smith jokingly calls it a spoiler. ScreenCrush seems to be conveniently modifying what actually happened to feed the hype.
    • avconsumer2
      Oh media. You never cease to amaze.
  • David Diaz
    The two art images that were released have him in the gray and blue suit as well.
  • Franklin Carpio
    I love Kevin Smith, but i need more to be pumped about Affleck wearing the cape... no matter what color it is.
  • Xerxexx
    No nips.
  • Guest
    "Because everyone always like does this Matrix/X-Men black armor" Is this saying that the new bat suit might not colors that are not black? I will reserve judgement but I will await the flood of neck beards raging over it.
  • Ehsan Davodi
    My Ultimate SuperHeroes in ONE MOVIE. I'm pleased in my skin , my flesh , my bones. Pity for those who doesn't love the CINEMA.
  • BinaryChaos
    I better not see the text "POW!" on screen when Batman punches Superman or else I'm out.
  • Jorrell Mcdaniel
    The day the first pic of affleck as batman comes out, the internet may explode lol.
  • BinaryChaos
    I think Snyder is borrowing the designs from the Batman Noel costume and for those who don't know what that Batman Noel costume looks like here is a link: I believe it will look similar to that.
    • OfficialJab
      We'll see I guess, but this strikes me as something Smith might describe as 'Matrix/X-Men black armor', which this apparently isn't.
  • Morvidus
    The new batsuit is inspired by Batman: Noel. It looks badass in the comics.
  • Nielsen700
    Batnipples back or I'm out!
    • I want an updated Adam West costume!
      • Peter North
        I'd rather have Adam West.
  • SV7
    Sounds like the costume is grey/blue which is great. But really what good is that if the movie is just going to be a boring vfx showreel. Man of Steel is out on bluray now and I can't even be bothered watching it again. The story was dire and the action was boring and without consequence. 5000 people died? Yeah, maybe per building!
    • Xerxexx
      You think Supes had any control over that? Zod forced the fight to remain in the city. Even if Supes forced him out Zod would have simply gone back.
      • SV7
        In terms of the body count, I'm not saying it was Superman's fault. I'm saying it was a questionable story choice played out badly. I'll watch Chris Reeve shattered at the thought of a few innocents in harm's way over this Superman not even acknowledging thousands are dying around him. It was the choice of the film makers and just one element in the movie that made it not engaging for me. And don't talk to me about the neck-breaking contrived ending! :)
        • OfficialJab
          I've always shared the view that he couldn't have avoided the fight being catastrophic, but do think that they could have prevented this whole fight and improved that climax with just one or two shots of him looking in horror at a couple of the building crashes. Or shit save a few falling people. Anything.
          • cobrazombie
            At least in Superman II (1981), Christopher Reeve's Superman actually saved citizens and shouted not to hurt the people while he was fighting.
          • Peter North
            That's why that Superman was a pussy. He can't save everyone! He can only do what he can do. Put yourself in that position (if it was real) what would you do. what could you do?? Simply, that much destruction was for movie making and effects only. Transformers... how many thousands upon thousands probably died during those battles, but yet at the end all we care about is dumbass Shit Leboof kissing knub thumbs or that other british chick without any thought to the lives either lost or put into chaos cause their homes or work places are destroyed.
        • Xerxexx
          well he did snap Zod's neck when he tried to kill a family...if that is contrived in your opinion then so be it. Zod only had two choices...kill Supes or die. Supes never had any moment to reflect on all those dying during his skirmish with Zod. Plus wasn't the city evacuated?
        • Wraith Ideal
          All of the wusses crying about Superman killing Zod are idiots. Superman has always made choices like this. And to those who keep praising the old Christopher Reeve movies, watch Superman 2, he kills all of the Cryptonians at the end of that movie you morons.
          • SV7
            The Kryptonians don't die at the end of the Superman 2. They're just overcome. There's even a version of the movie where they show them being ushered into a police snow vehicle afterwards.
          • Wraith Ideal
            HA. You are talking about an extended version that was not in the theaters. Additionally, you cannot clearly see who those figures are. Regardless, all of the fantasy nerds who are upset about the good guy killing the bad guy are dumb. Read some Superman literature, and you will clearly see that like all "good guys", he sometimes has to make that choice. Look at this and educate yourself:
    • Peter North
      Did you actually watch the movie?? Story was dire?? Boring?? and without consequence?? That's the exact opposite of what the movie was!! Go pull out your Twilight collection and watch that some more dumbass!
    • Wraith Ideal
      You're nuts dude. Man Of Steel is an awesome movie. Way better than Avengers.
  • Gabe Nakamura
    In context, I would not consider Zack Snyder's statement as a confirmation.
  • Bl00dwerK
    New 52, probably...
  • Peter North
    How much is that fat blob kevin smith being paid to promote all this and still sound like the total douche bag that he is?
  • brian cox
    suit of sorrow im betting on this suit look it up guys
  • Don't get me wrong, I love me some Kevin Smith films, but the man is a confirmed Liar and but kisser.
  • 1Calicojack
    Jimmy Love you are so right. He knows it is a horrible idea and once it is done and over I would like to start a campaign that all the decision makers at Warners who agreed on this are fired. I would like the next red carpet event when Ben Affleck walks down the carpet we openly turn our backs as he walks down to show him our total lack of respect as he has shown this fanbase.
  • 1Calicojack
    Also it was Kevin Smith who thought Assfleck was born to play daredevil
  • Wraith Ideal
    All of the wusses crying about Superman killing Zod are idiots. Superman has always made choices like this. And to those who keep praising the old Christopher Reeve movies, watch Superman 2, he kills all of the Cryptonians at the end of that movie you morons.
    • 1Calicojack
      what does that have to do with Affleck playing Bruce Wayne
      • Wraith Ideal
        Nothing. Look at the comment thread. People are still crying about it because they're stupid and they don't understand the characters
  • 1Calicojack
    Here is what I propose to all going to Comic con get into group and actively show your disdain towards Ben by publicly telling him remove yourself from the role. If he doesn't a total boycott of all " Affleck" project hence forth.




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