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'Mockingjay' Will Have to Digitally Recreate Philip Seymour Hoffman

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February 7, 2014
Source: THR

The Hunger Games

Following the heartbreaking news that Philip Seymour Hoffman had died last weekend (read my personal tribute and farewell here), Lionsgate revealed that only seven days of filming needed to be completed on The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part II. The studio said they would not need to recast Hoffman, but THR learned that one major scene still needed to be completed, and it involved Hoffman's character, gamemaker Plutarch Heavensbee, who becomes fairly important after the end of Catching Fire. The source said, "they seem to have plans that don’t seem very complicated" and "You can do digital things, you can have conversations where you’re not focusing on him but the people he’s talking to." More below!

Now it appears we know how the filmmaker's will get around this tragic circumstance. The New York Post says the filmmakers will digitally recreate Hoffman for this unknown, pivotal scene that Heavensbee must be present for in the film. The scene has yet to be shot, and knowing the kind of things special effects can do today, this isn't surprising news. Obviously they won't be able to add lines that Hoffman hadn't already recorded, but if filmmakers can make Jeff Bridges young again in Tron Legacy, this shouldn't be a problem at all. It might be odd if noticeable, but we don't even know the scene in question, so we'll find out.

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  • Xerxexx
    Sad that Hoffman is gone...he was a great actor. At least they caught the dealer...seems like said dealer is getting all the blame...Hoffman fucked up...RIP.
    • cobrazombie
      Heroin is a helluva drug.
  • Rock n Rollllll
    hmmm i wonder what that will look like.
  • Bo
    Great, just great...I say with all the irony I can muster. It doesn't make any difference what it will look like. People who flock to these silly immature movies won't know and if they do know won't care. This is where film has come, appealling to the lowest of lowest of the common denominater where anything resembling authenticity simply makes no difference at all. But what else can they do? They've invested a lot of money into making this nonsense and there is a lot of money to be made from it. What else is to be done then? The masses will not care and will be very satisfied. Great, just great, eh?
    • davidshaw
      You've never even seen these movies, have you? Something tells me you just spend your days whining and complaining about every little thing in a mad grab for attention.
      • Bo
        Yes, I in fact have seen Hunger Games. If one can't read my posts and ascertain that an intelligent person is commenting than one wouldn't be able to know that such a person would not comment out of ignorance. I am not ignorant of these films or I would not attempt a discussion of them. But no one wants to discuss them. Instead I get childish retorts and attacks one used to get on the grade school playground and sandbox. Which just makes my points even clearer as to the mentality that finds value in this kind of trash. I also get a lot of projections in the replies. Meaning that people project onto me what they are feeling in themselves. Like a 'mad grab for attention'. Are you serious? Is that the best you can come up with. All these personal attacks on me instead of...'Jeez, this Bo guy has a different and rather harsh opinion and view of these films that are sure different from mine. I wonder if I can learn anything from him or learn anything if I engage in intelligent discourse with him to try to understand where he is coming from and how he came to those conclusions.' I don't get that response. No, I get childish accusations that have no merit and name calling which serves no purpose. Very strange indeed.
        • davidshaw
          This entire reply just oozes arrogance and narcissism. I feel like I'm drowning.
          • Bo
            I've no wonder that you feel like you're drowning, David. But that can be a good thing. So you read 'this entire reply' and then reply in just the manner I was discussing. Arrogant and narcissistic all rolled into one, eh? That's quite funny, but no, David, I don't take myself seriously and will without hesitation freely admit that in fact I am not important. I've challeged the people here and you especially to engage in intelligent discourse and you name call...out of projecting your inner life upon me? Is it perhaps that you are arrogant and narcissistic in your views and especially your reactions? What I am saying about these light weight films is really of no importance. Your reactions to what I am saying is of much more importance. Have you taken a moment to become of aware of your reactions and question why you are reacting that way? I fear not, thus you feel like you're drowning...and blaming that on me. I'm sorry you feel this way, David, but they are you're feelings and your thoughts and taking responsibility for them might be an idea. Here I've been attempting to discuss the merits of what I veiw as silly and trite movies and we've gotten into a spiritual discussion? Interesting how life unfolds, isn't it. Look, take care David. I mean you no harm. Try not to kill the messenger here. And the message is the Hunger Game films are absurd creations designed to soothe and entertain the masses. Much like the Games themselves in the movies do for the masses in the Capital. Isn't that ironic?
          • davidshaw
            I didn't even bother to read this one beyond the first couple lines. You really need to get a life and stop writing such long, self-indulgent diatribes online. Stop massaging your ego and go outside. Seriously. And if you feel the need to reply again go ahead, but I won't read that one either.
          • Bo
            Yet you keep replying by telling me what I should or should not do. Just ignore me, David. Stop replying. If you're so upset with me why can't you just ignore me? Why do you keep engaging?
          • Cameron
            You're the guy at parties that makes me "have to go find my wife".
          • Bo
            Typical grade school level communication. It's cool. You're the guy at parties who hides behind his wife and my friends are thankful for you leaving an otherwise engaging and intelligent conversation. People, people. Arguing and name calling and whining because someone has the guts and intelligence to confront you on your tastes of films. Look, it's okay. Keep watching them. Keep enjoying them. I'm not important and why are you making me so by continuing to engage me in such childish antics? Just ignore me and let's move on for chissakes. Man oh man.
    • Xerxexx
      Comfortable on that high horse?
      • Bo
        Very, very comfortable. Are you comfortable sliding along in the depths of stupidity and childish fantasy? I'd rather ride the high horse of intelligent values and perceptions than wallow in nonsensical and shallow horrors of entertainment aimed a kids. Where would you prefer to be?
    • Jon Odishaw
      Are you about done today? Clearly this is not the website for you.
      • Bo
        What, is there somekind of aptitude test one has to take and fail in order to qualify to visit and comment on this website? I do find it interesting that people who have praise for the lowest virtues and the mediocre have such anger at one who expresses disdain for that and values the highest virtures. What's with that? You are not going to attempt to argue that these Hunger Game movies are anything other than popcorn movies that do not require a whole lot of brain power, are you? Say it ain't so. Come on, children. You're being challenged on your taste in movies and rather than defend these tastes with intelligent discourse you whine.
        • Jon Odishaw
          Every comment you make is more pretentious than the last. We love movies here. Just because some of us enjoy blockbuster popcorn movies doesn't make us any less intelligent. Not that I would consider the hunger games a popcorn movie. It's merit is obvious if you took the time to really watch it.
          • Bo
            Look Jon, if it helps you to label my postings and opinions pretentious then have at it. I could say the same to you and others about your insecure defending of these what I deem unintelligent popcorn movies. So you like them? Great, but as the well known critic Pauline Kael once wrote, 'It's okay to watch trash...and even like it...just be sure to know that it is trash.' I saw Hunger Games. To me it was horrible and embarrassing. If you find that intimidating to your opinions then take responsibility for that. I could care less what people think of me or of my opinions of films because I'm secure enough in them to not concern myself with what others think. To even discuss the merits of these films is insane. They are made for the masses to soothe the masses so they can make boatloads of money. There is no other reason for these movies. Period. I've been in and around the film business for a long time and know people who make these films. I would hate to inform you what they really think of their audiences as I'm not sure you could hold up under knowing how disrespectful they are and what they think of them. It ain't pretty. They know exactly what they are doing regardless of what you may read or see in their PR releases. That too is carefully crafted. Look, I'm sorry I brought it up. You are all killing the messenger because you don't like the message. The Lord have mercy. I been in many a film class where the professors were much, much harsher about films, especially mass appeal movies then I am being here. I mean you know harm and was only challenging the views held by many of you on this web sitge regarding these movies. The reactions are much more important than what I am saying.
    • Neuromancer
      "This is where film has come"? Your opinion is shared with many academics during the time film was conceived so in essence, it's where film has always been. Feel free to go back to your paintings and sculptures and leave us plebeians with these funny moving pictures.
      • Bo
        Thank you, kind sir. I will go back to my paintings and scultures and intelligent films and leave you to these funny worthless movies made for kids. They are not made for intelligent adults and there is no way to intelligently argue otherwise.
        • John M
          I won't bother arguing the merits of the Hunger Games films, suffice it to say I think you are wrong about them. But what should be pointed out is that movies are a business. Unlike many other forms of art, filmmaking is a rather expensive endeavor. It's popular entertainment like The Hunger Games that in many cases allows the studios and talent to be able to make the mature, adult-themed movies that we all like. It's not one of the other. Popular entertainment and high art can co-exist together... there is room for all types of films in the marketplace.
          • Bo
            Well, thanks John for an intelligent reply. Yes, movies are a business...a big business and the conflict between the popular entertainment and high art has been going on for a long time. I fear that the low brow entertainment part has won the battle. The mass audience bonanza of Jaws and Star Wars changed it all. A man wrote a book years ago titled Revolt of the Masses. In it he stated there would come a time when artist no longer exist. That creative work would only be made to appeal to the masses and what they want. So here we have it. Big money means appealing to the lowest common denominator or you won't make that big money. This attracts certain types of people who make movies not out of self expression, but for fame and fortune. So be it. One only had to live through the great films that came out here in America during the sixties and very early seventies (Five Easy Pieces, The Graduate, Bonnie and Clyde, The Wild Bunch, Kubrick's films, etc.) to see what has been lost. They simply are not making films like that anymore. Some, but not many. It is what it is. I would hope young people would cultivate taste beyond the mindless entertainment so popular in our culture today, but the resistance to that is pretty fierce as witnessed on this site. That being the case it still does not make these popular films worthy or of value in my opinion. They are drugs soothing the masses into mindless stupor. Not for me. So again, thanks for the excellent points you make. You seem much more agreeable and accepting of this silly nonsense than me and you no doubt are better off for it...lol...
          • The Mark man dude bro
            I agree with you man, very intelligent and insightful. That is why we must continue to fight to preserve the true essence of art. That's why it is imperative that we support true tasteful films such as transformers 4 and amazing Spider-Man 2 despite what the mindless massess do!
        • Neuromancer
          Hilarious how you with your intelligence didn't get it (not talking about the movie, just in case you would think that). I guess you're just slightly below the rest of us but that's ok :-) Enjoy!
          • Bo
            Okay, so now I'm slightly below the rest of you and that's okay. Another poster has labeled me arrogant and narcissistic so I'm confused. Well, not really. I know who and what I am so this back and forth grade school banter is tiring. So whatever I didn't get I still get so your communication skills might need polishing. Or you can blame it on me. That's the easy way. But I disagree with you that 'this is where film has always been'. That could be an interesting discussion if one is willing to leave the sandbox on the grade school playground and stop engaging in childish banter like my daddy can beat up your daddy. Also, of interest here is how intelligence keeps being thrown at me like or as if that is a bad thing. Which gets me back to my point. These Hunger Games movies are not made to stimulate one's intellience or one's spiritual cravings. They are made to stimulate the most base of emotions in the largest number of people possible in order to maximize as much profit and money as possible. You have a problem with that view? Is it not true? What is your opinion of that? Can you voice it without resorting to childish and immature yammerings designed to lower your debater to a manageable level? That would interest me a bit if you care to respond to that and in a somewhat intelligent and mature manner. Otherwise, carry on. Your irony was taken Neuromancer, but failed to work as irony is designed. Too much bile and anger taints good irony.
  • DavideCoppola
    CG Hoffman? Let's call Andy Serkis for some motion capture work!
  • Nielsen700
    OH MY GAAAAWD!!!
  • DAVIDPD
    Bo dun kicked the hornets' nest. // He'll still be great.
    • Shannon
      I went to the dark side and looked through his comments thread. Wow.
      • Bo
        I hope you found it at least consistant. For these comments of mine to generate such interest and such toxic reactions says something. Otherwise, why reply and comment and research.? Eh?
    • Bo
      That's pretty funny, DavidP. Thanks. I guess I dun did kick the hornet's nest. Man oh man. I just re-read my original post about people who go to these movies won't care about this. Am I wrong? Anyway, David...I compliment you on your rather grown up reply. And you are correct if you mean Hoffman will still be great. I agree as he always was. I should stop now, I know should, but just can't resist kicking the hornet's nest again when I say, I wonder if sinking to the level of this movie and taking the big money had anything to do with resorting to shooting heroin into his veins? Ain't that just horrible?
  • Shannon
    If it's anything similar to the way the Sopranos dealt with the loss of Nancy Marchand (Tony's Mother, Livia) I see now reason why it can't turn out well. His addition to Catching Fire was a great one! Granted - Mockingjay is by far a weaker story than the other two, so there's that to deal with.
  • Gohikeone
    I remember when they did this with Oliver Reed in Gladiator. I didn't mind it then, I was just happy they were able to keep the continuity and honor the actor with his final scene. The technology was in its infancy then. As others have said, after Tron, a scene or two should be no problem.
  • Perry Pijnenburg
    Only Skynet can recreate Hoffman.

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