What Do the Official Titles for 'Captain America 3' & 'Thor 3' Tell Us?
by Ethan Anderton
October 28, 2014
Marvel Studios doesn't usually like to announce things more than two or three years away, but the recent onslaught of news from Warner Bros. and DC Entertainment provoked the studio into making a big spectacle and announcing their entire slate for Phase Three of their cinematic universe, which will begin with Ant-Man in 2015 following The Avengers: Age of Ultron. And besides the revelation of Black Panther, Inhumans and Captain Marvel, the comic book studio also announced the titles for Captain America 3 and Thor 3, sequels that we've been expecting and anticipating. But what do the titles tell us? Read on!
First up, coming on May 6th, 2016 is Captain America: Civil War. Marvel played a little trick on people at the event this afternoon by first announcing the title of this film was Serpent Society (which sounds like a show on The CW), but then went back and revealed that it would actually be Civil War as we heard when Robert Downey Jr. was added to the cast. Because we already heard that news, the revelation of the title doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. The film will put Tony Stark (Downey) and Steve Rogers (Chris Evans) at odds, taking cues from the comic book story arc of the same name.
However, this won't be the Civil War that comic book fans know. The storyline from the comics follows the inception of the Superhero Registration Act, which forces anyone with superhuman abilities to reveal their identities to the U.S. government and agree to act as a police force for the authorities. While Stark supports the program, Rogers does not, believing that it threatens civil liberties, and everyone in the Marvel universe is forced to choose a side. But there are no secret identities in the Marvel cinematic universe, so how will this work? Well, Kevin Feige vaguely explained at the event:
"I don’t want to give too much away, but needless to say, the generalities of the act are the same. Something happens, perhaps it’s cumulative for things that have happened though all of the movies leading up to this point. It has made the governments of the world say 'we need to have some oversight of these guys. They need to report to somebody.' So it becomes more… it falls under that umbrella, rather than 'you have to take off your mask.' It’s not about the secret identity thing, as much as it is about, overall, who reports to who, and who can agree to oversight committee. Because as of now, in 'Avengers 2,' there is no more security council, there is no S.H.I.E.L.D., obviously. Stark is paying for it, Captain America is running it, and things occur that will make governments begin to question."
So this will moreso be about an argument about these superheroes answering to some kind of government oversight. More than likely, the destruction caused both by the villains and the heroics that end them is what comes into play, along with the events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier where S.H.I.E.L.D. was proven to be a front for Hydra. The government wants some form of accountability, and it sounds like Rogers isn't on board, already through with fighting wars for governments. But Stark, who will see what his unregulated actions can cause in The Avengers: Age of Ultron, doesn't agree. That should be intense.
As for the God of Thunder, Marvel announced that Thor: Ragnarok will arrive on July 28th, 2017, returning the franchise to the summer. During the Marvel event, Kevin Feige explained that "Ragnarok" means "the end of all things," and it references a 2004 comic book storyline that destroyed Asgard and all its inhabitants and also killed off Thor for several years. Is there a chance that Thor: Ragnarok will kill off Chris Hemsworth, leaving him out of the running for The Avengers: Infinity War? We've heard rumblings that the new line-up, recently confirmed by Feige, appearing at the end of Age of Ultron means that some of the original members won't be utilized for The Avengers 3.
However, let's also recall that The Avengers: Infinity War is split into two parts coming in 2018 and 2019. The new team could easily take the lead in the first part, but when Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet become too much to handle for them, it forces the presumably estranged Tony Stark and Steve Rogers to team-up and destroy this seemingly unstoppable villain. It stands to reason that if Thor is killed off in Ragnarok, Marvel would figure out a way to bring him back for the second part of Infinity War. It would make for quite a dramatic reunion of The Avengers who started it all.
Interestingly enough, Ragnarok is also the name of a clone that Tony Stark creates in the Civil War comic book storyline to help fight against those who refuse to register with the government. Stark had a hair from Thor that he kept just in case, and used it to create a deadly clone who dispatched with plenty of superheroes while the real Thor wasn't involved in the battle. We doubt that this version of Ragnarok will be used on the big screen, but it's interesting to point out considering the fact that Civil War kicks off with the Captain America franchise in 2016.
Anyway, while these titles and the little amount of information revealed so far give us an idea of what we can expect from the future of both of these franchises, the events of The Avengers: Age of Ultron (the Thor sequel picks up right after that sequel) will certainly have a huge impact on both. We're also interested to see how the new franchises like Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther and Captain Marvel effect things. And if we're lucky, all of these superheroes will probably end up meeting with Guardians of the Galaxy to deal with Thanos in the Infinity War. There's so much to be excited about! Thoughts?