Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire Officially Returning for Spider-Man 4?!
The moment I walked out after seeing Spider-Man 3 last year, I knew it was over. There was no way that they could continue this franchise after such a lackluster conclusion. But I guessed wrong - and as we all know, Sony is hard at work on Spider-Man 4. In a surprising announcement today, Nikki Finke on Deadline Hollywood reports that both Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire will be returning to Spider-Man 4. The deal apparently came together recently, because Finke says that a few weeks ago "Sony Pictures co-chairman Amy Pascal was openly discussing Tobey's potential replacements." Finke also adds that "the studio is trying to figure out if it can feasibly shoot Spider-Man 4 and 5 at the same time." Whoa…
When Sony confirmed that they were working on Spider-Man 4 for 2011, the speculation was that either Sam Raimi or Tobey Maguire would not return, considering both of them have spent nearly 9 years of their life on Spider-Man already. Finke does say that there is no deal for Kirsten Dunst's return yet, but Sony said they "would never recast her." As for the focus of this film, apparently Sony isn't going to go the dark route. "Sam Raimi made the first serious superhero movie, and others followed. The difference between Spider-Man and Batman is that Batman is dueling with a dark side of himself, and that's not what Peter Parker's struggle is. Peter Parker has no dark side of himself." I thought that's exactly what the third movie is about? Maybe they finally learned from their mistakes?
As for the villain and early details on the story, Finke only provides this tidbit: "once you find out who the villain is, you'll know who's playing it." The script for this sequel was penned by James Vanderbilt, of The Rundown and Fincher's Zodiac previously. We also mentioned this at the start, but I'd say it's definitely worth mentioning again. "The studio is trying to figure out if it can feasibly shoot Spider-Man 4 and 5 at the same time because doing that is so cost effective and 'it wasn't so easy to get everybody back together.'" Two more back-to-back Spider-Man movies directed by Sam Raimi and starring Tobey Maguire?! I'm not sure whether I'm excited by this news or just baffled. What do you think?
Reader Feedback - 79 Comments
I think Johnathan Tucker (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006958/) would make a perfect maybe ever better replacement for Peter Parker then Tobey Maguire and if Kristen Dunst doesn't come back, wtf? Thats what most of Peters struggles revolve around. I have faith that they could defiantly make more good movies, I also kinda hated Spiderman 3 which I didn't think I would and I think we deserve a better ending to the franchise, then what we got, the same for X-men while were at it.
Richard on Sep 5, 2008
Umm, have we forgotten Spiderman 2 so easily? It's near perfect for a spiderman film. SP3 was a huge mistep, but i think that had a lot to do with the raimi's writing the project themselves. We know Sam can deliver a great Spiderman film if he has a good script, and Vanderbilt is certain capable. -Ayz
Ayz on Sep 5, 2008
Tobey's back? Cool. He's no Oscar nominee, but he gets the job done. Kirsten won't be recast? Well then the story better have her character on vacation somewhere trying to get acting roles and stay out of the movie. I haven't liked Kirsten as Mary Jane since I first found out she had the role. She is NO Mary Jane. I do not think "Jackpot" when I see her. Just the truth. Raimi's back? NO! What more will he screw up? When I find out who the next villain is, I'll know who's playing him? Hmm...I'll have to think about that one for a while. I don't really know of a Spider-Man villain that looks and acts exactly like some actor or actress. Unless he's talking about The Lizard, and he's saying we'll know it's the guy who's been playing that character in all three movies. If they have The Lizard, they should throw in someone like Kraven, and Black Cat. 2 vs 2. Spider-Man and Black Cat vs. The Lizard and Kraven the Hunter. And at the same time both sides have their own conflicts with each other. Spider-Man could also flirt with Black Cat like he does in the comics if they were to send Mary Jane away like I said, and then he would feel guilty and all that.
Viper on Sep 5, 2008
Marvel needs to get their hands in the next movies some how and correct their mistakes.
Viper on Sep 5, 2008
When I say "their" I mean Raimi and Co. Sorry for the triple post.
Viper on Sep 5, 2008
Uh, how about Dylan Baker's Dr. Connors/Lizard Man for once. Or will they bribe him like they did with Billy Dee as Harvey Dent?
quickie mart on Sep 5, 2008
There is one thing I never understood with actors in film and TV series. If you're making loads of money and having huge success with a franchise/TV series, why not just stay continue with it until the very end? It's work after all.
McCoffee on Sep 5, 2008
Continuing with my post... If they use The Lizard, then Rhino would need to be in the first 15 or 20 minutes of the movie. Connors helps Spider-Man defeat Rhino but in doing so exposes himself to the stuff that turns him into The Lizard.
Viper on Sep 5, 2008
Yeah i never liked the spiderman franchise but if i had to pick one id definatly say that S2 was the best of all 3. Kirsten Dunst please, never liked her as Mary Jane, she could play courtney love though if they made a movie about her and kurt. Any how, dont recast it, fine but dont get involved by trying to bring in 2 or 3 new charectors like in the last one. Spiderman 2 did so well cause it was 1 on 1 and so did spiderman 1. They can introduce a allie for him, black cat would be cool. Or even Kraven would be cool, because kraven and spidey did help each other out. I would like to see the rhino play a small part, i think that would be cutting it close. Maybe pull a villan from the 67 series the Amazing spiderman. But i am nervous on Rami's Capabilities now after S3, Lets cross our fi ngers guys.
THERBLIG on Sep 5, 2008
Bruce Campbell as Mysterio, perhaps? That would earn the official seal of "epic" in my book, at least.
B33 on Sep 5, 2008
This is interesting news. Part 3 was terrible. But they can pull it off, if they get a couple good scripts. Get a solid villain or it won't work. We don't need multiple villains either. It seems like every time we get a sequel, the number in the title matches the number of bad guys. STOP IT! Just make a good story and go with it. Mary Jane (Dunst) needs to go too, or have someone else play her character. She never really fit that role. Okay, I'm done.
Jeff on Sep 5, 2008
Spider-man 4 & 5 with Raimi and Maguire?? No No No!!!!! They ruined everything...!! When i saw the 3rd installment of the Spider-man series, I started noticing in the first two movies pretty much the same mistakes part 3 had in its plot, but only on a smaller scale. They ruined everything. I loved Spider-man 1 & 2 and now I can't watch them anymore!! They transformed one of the best and pure fun to watch characters in the comic universe, into a sexually impotent and immature stupid adolescent, carrying heavy and unresolved personal issues, like the ones Clark Cent has in Smallville. I think we've had enough. It's time to let James Cameron do his thing. Let him decide who will be the actor to portray Parker. It's time to see a mature Parker as Todd McFarlane envisioned him in his short but excellent run in Marvel. It's so easy. All they have to do is use one, just one complete storyline McFarlane did!! They are so multi-layered and so profound, you begin to think they were initially written for a feature film. Of course if they use the McFarlane version of Spider-man, you all know what that means, right? SPAGHETTI WEBBING!!!!!! A new creative team for a better Spider-man is needed. That means Raimi and Maguire are out. I don't want to be harsh on them but with great power comes great responsibility..and these two have a huge huge responsibility for what they let Spider-man become in part 3.
MajesticXIII on Sep 5, 2008
@B33 bruce campbell as mysterio would be the best thing ever! it's totally possible because they have worked together before (Evil Dead series). Also, it would be cool to see Bruce get upgraded from his cameos in each one to a starring role. The only thing is that Mysterio is not the greatest villian, so there would have to be other stuff going on.
fracaso on Sep 5, 2008
The buddies of FS.net over at cinemablend seem to think they've got the 4th villain all figured out... http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Exclusive-Spider-Man-4-Villain-Revealed-4739.html
Peloquin on Sep 5, 2008
i am pretty excited. i didn't like the 3rd one, but the 1st and especially the 2nd blew me away, and if raimi can pull that off again, i can't wait to see it in theaters.
matt on Sep 5, 2008
good ideas for the future of spiderman! i hope they dont fuck it up!
Ray on Sep 5, 2008
Awesome. The 3rd one was a bit lackluster, but I didn't hate it. The main problem was that it came on the heels of 2, which is one of the greatest superhero films ever. I thought three was a good conclusion though, and it will be interesting to see where they might go from here. I think the best decision is getting Vanderbilt; having an outsider continue the writing will reinvigorate and reinvent this franchise, and I think doing a 2 parter on top of that will really inject new life into the series; it's exactly what 3 should have done.
DinoChow on Sep 5, 2008
Why? I'm sick of Raimy, and spider 3 was awful. And i'm tired of Tobey's peter parker.
Darunia on Sep 5, 2008
I will see any Comic Book based movie, just becuase I am a full pledged geek. But they are going to have to pull something out of their ass if they want two more SM movies that wont suck ass. SM3 sucked so bad. It had one too many dance moves and just bad with the Venom casting. I will hope that they bring in, as the Villain, The Lizard. Cause we would all know who plays him. Hell they already showed him once in the movies. Who else could they have? I would love to see a villain that no one every thought they would do, like another villain from a another Marvell movie. But studios will be studios. God Bless Comics!
AllmightyKeim on Sep 5, 2008
I know the director who directed Spider-Man 2 is still there. Spider-Man 3 was a huge misstep, but it doesn't make Sam a bad director. Every director has a bad one in them. I have faith he can get back to form and hiring a screenwriter outside their team was a good start. Let Sam worry about the directing part.
Mike G. on Sep 5, 2008
#6 quickie mart, what do you mean they bribed bill dee ad harvey dent? please elaborate...
BRBomber on Sep 5, 2008
SPIDER-MAN WAS the biggest comic book film of all time box office wise (but now DARK KNIGHT is) so now way Marvel is passing up their biggest franchise (though IRON MAN may become it now). Raimi and Maguire were contracted for four so the five part surprises me. Dunst will be back though, she went no where.
Ryan on Sep 5, 2008
The first one was the only one that was close to an ok film. the second and third were a joke and should not have been made. Making two more sounds like career suicide. Spiderman for sure should have been taken down the darker, more realistic path like Batman.
one on Sep 5, 2008
@ #19 Dr. Connors is in all three movies.
Viper on Sep 5, 2008
lol Here's someone's interpretation of what The Lizard would be like. http://boards.sonypictures.com/spiderman/attachment.php?attachmentid=370&stc=1&d=1165009034
Viper on Sep 5, 2008
Ok let's forget the 3rd one for a moment and be optimistic about this. 1 was good 2 was Excellent! Good news we get 4 & 5 (hopefully) Great news Dunst is gone, thank god. I don't know what they were thinking when they cast her. she does not fit the role of Mary Jane that we know and love. Opportunities for new vilains. He has alot of enemies but please someone said Mysterio, waste of time, horrible vilain, I love Bruce Campbell but lets not degrade him to a C vilain. I would of loved a Carnage story but we all know Sam can't pull Spider-Man has one of the best-known rogues galleries in comics, in part because he has been the featured character in more individual titles than any other comic book super-hero except for Superman and Batman, giving him a large number of published stories in which to fight a proportionately large number of villains. Spider-Man's most infamous and dangerous enemies are generally considered to be The Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, and Venom. Others include the Lizard, the Chameleon, the Hobgoblin, Kraven the Hunter, Carnage, the Scorpion, the Sandman, the Rhino, Mysterio, the Vulture, Electro, the Kingpin, Hydro-Man, the Shocker, Morlun, and The Ringmaster. I would of loved the Clone Saga with Jackal. Just an opinion
Rudy on Sep 5, 2008
Sorry fust FYI, for thos who don't know the Jackal, Dr. Miles Warren (Jackal) is an Empire State University biology professor who becomes infatuated with Peter Parker's girlfriend, Gwen Stacy. After she dies during a battle between Spider-Man and the Green Goblin, Warren becomes a demented geneticist and clones both Gwen Stacy and Peter Parker. He gains enhanced strength and agility by combining the genetic material of an actual jackal with his own. His genetic tampering later results in the Clone Saga The Clone Saga or Spider-Clone Saga was a major story arc in Marvel Comics which ran from 1994 to 1996 involving many clones of Spider-Man. The story is considered within fandom to be one of the most controversial stories ever told for Spider-Man if not in the comics industry as a whole. The story was intended to wrap up in less than a year. However, the comics sold very well and the writers were encouraged to prolong the saga as long as possible.
Rudy on Sep 5, 2008
I have to agree with #11 on the villain thing, why do we need sandman and venom and harry and whoever else, just concentrate on one good storyline with one good bad guy and make an awesome movie.
Richard on Sep 5, 2008
I have absolutely nothing against the clone saga, but if they made a movie about it it would flop big time because so many people hate it and literally forget it happened until someone mentions it and then they groan. Too bad they can't do the Sinister Six, (Doctor Octopus, Electro, Kraven, Mysterio, Vulture, Sandman), because that would be badass. But Doctor Octopus is dead, Sandman wouldn't start fighting Spider-Man again after the S3 ending, and Sinister Six is suppose to be people Spider-Man has already fought. So they would all have to show up in movies before becoming the Sinister Six. Maybe if the movies keep going into the future... Spider-Man 10: The Return of Doctor Octopus -- Doctor Octopus suddenly returns with a vengeance and contacts all of Spider-Man's enemies from the past. Sandman, blaming Spider-Man for the death of his daughter during a rampage by Carnage (Spider-Man 8), answers the call alongside the likes of The Vulture, Electro, Kraven the Hunter, and Mysterio. Known as the Sinister Six, they gather to finally destroy Spider-Man in a battle to end all battles. Who am I kidding, that would end up sucking. lol
Viper on Sep 5, 2008
@ #29 Well, Spider-Man comics usually have villains teaming up to fight him unless they are relatively new or haven't been in the comics for a long time. Sandman and Venom is just a really bad combination.
Viper on Sep 5, 2008
darn I thought they actual might bring in people that could bring honor back to the Spiderman name. Looks like we're left with more of the same shoulder-shrugging team
daniel on Sep 5, 2008
I died inside when I saw spiderman 3. Venom is the most bad ass mother trucker villain one could fear to encounter, and sam raimi made him a pussy. Screw Raimi and there is nothing he can do to make up for his dumbass shit of a movie. May god have mercy on his soul.
Andrew on Sep 5, 2008
I don't know if they'll use this as an opportunity for improvement or if it will hust become progressively worse. I think they finally learned to limit the scope of the villains and I'd personally like to see Carnage and Lizard.
SlashBeast on Sep 5, 2008
I am very glad to see Maguire and Raimi return. Sony's rumored replacements for Tobey sounded awful. I'm also glad to see that they aren't going the "dark" route. I like my superhero movies to be bright and uplifting. I couldn't care less if Dunst returns. Give me some more Bryce Dallas Howard (who knew Opie could produce such hot offspring?). Dr. Curt Conners has already been in the previous movies, so I believe the next villain will be the Lizard. Personally, I'd like to see Mysterio (played by Bruce Campbell) play the main villain. Others I'd like to see include: Hobgoblin, Morbius, Scorpion, Shocker, or Tombstone.
Drew on Sep 5, 2008
I hope they go back in time for this one! Four more years!
DCompose on Sep 5, 2008
Pirates 2 and 3 were shot back to back too...not liking that news too much.
Itri on Sep 5, 2008
When I heard that villian quote I thought Sir Ben Kingsley as the Vulture #21 In the original 4 Batman films Billy Dee Williams was Harvey Dent in Batman (1989) and had in his contract a clause that if they ever used Two-face he would play him. But instead WB just paid him so they could cast Tommy lee-Jones. I wonder how Lando would have done as Two Face?
Joker on Sep 5, 2008
Spidey 3 was so bad that it took away from 1 and 2 😛 I think i would like to see them redeem themselves though. Hopefully Marvel will stay involved in this it worker for IH and Iron Man.
Silver on Sep 5, 2008
This is awesome news! I think what Finke meant by the comment, "once you find out who the villain is, you'll know who's playing it" was that we'll probably be seeing Dr. Connors as The Lizard. Maybe we'll see Kraven the Hunter as something like a mercenary hired to hunt Spidey, I think that would be great. And here's hoping that they cast Elisha Cuthbert as Felicia Hardy, aka Black Cat...just look at her: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/dragonwish/Elisha%20Cuthbert/elisha-cuthbert-3.jpg Wow.
Daas on Sep 5, 2008
uhhh...I'm not sure what I think about this. I guess I'm happy because they have a chance to redeem themselves from the third installment. If the next two are as good as 1 and 2, I'll be glad to have them, obviously.
Keith on Sep 5, 2008
If this rumor is true, then that's great. I couldn't bring myself to watch a Spidey film without Raimi helming it and Maguire as the lead (although he wasn't too good in SM3). SM3 was a disaster only because Sony Pictures forced Raimi to put in Venom for ticket sales (originally, Vulture was set to be the main villain) in a movie that was already congested enough. However, I don't like the idea of 4 and 5 shooting simultaneously/back-to-back (that usually means there will be a cliffhanger).
Chris C. on Sep 5, 2008
surely its gonna be the lecturer playing lizard....i say this cos hes a character that has been braced to play him for 3 episodes and hes the only villain that someone can say would 100%play that character as he has previously done so in the other movies. Michael clarke duncan a kingpin form daredevil? thats the only other character i can think of but hes tied up in a complicated studio ownership argument thingy
dan on Sep 6, 2008
i might just be the only one who loved spiderman 3, plot holes and ok script and all
Josh on Sep 6, 2008
@ Viper Shut up
Soup Nazi on Sep 6, 2008
I'm interested. Surprised, but interested. I feel like a minority when I say that I love Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker. I'll see 'em if they come out.
Will S. (Co Springs) on Sep 6, 2008
"The difference between Spider-Man and Batman is that Batman is dueling with a dark side of himself, and that's not what Peter Parker's struggle is. Peter Parker has no dark side of himself" Haha!! Did that guy even see Batman & Spider-man? I mean, I look stupid for even mentioning this, then, imagine how stupid that statement is. Wasn't the third part about the dark Spidy? Hello, the black posters etc.? Rofl! And when did Batman have a dark side? The story was dark not Batman. Batman is a dark knight in the people's point of view. "Sam Raimi made the first serious superhero movie, and others followed" OMG!! I can't stop laughing now.. What are they even trying to prove? They are saying that they are serious about the movie & so want to make the 4th & 5th sequels together? That's serious film-making? Haha! Funniest interview I've read.. Thanks for the laugh..
Deepak on Sep 6, 2008
I dont know, its hard to come back from a bad film in a franchise. At the same time i have always had faith in Raimi.
Al on Sep 6, 2008
God, all you people who are so willingly ready to shoot down Raimi and Toby because of one bad movie in the series are such hypocrites. Sure when they made parts 1 & 2 everyone thought that those were some of the best comic book movies put to screen. Then one not so good movie and everyone loses hope. I guess it's true what they say, when you're good everyone loves you but the second that you do something wrong, everyone is in such of a hurry to bury you. I think the Spiderman series has been one of the most entertaining comic series in movies, I would love to see Raimi and Toby back to reprise their jobs. I could think of a lot worser comic series that you could bash on,... F4 1 & 2 anybody? But I do agree that Dunst as MJ was a wrong choice to start out with, I wouldn't care less if she isn't in the next installments.... how about Rachel McAdams?
Omega728 on Sep 7, 2008
Spiderman 1 and 2 were good. If they can correct the mistakes of 3, then 4 and 5 will be good. Hopefully they leave it at 5 movies. Nobody does that, just make like 2 and a little more than half trilogies, thats crazy, I'd love to see that! lolol
Kail on Sep 6, 2008
I am happy to see raimi returning and I can live with toby returning as long as we dont have to suffer through him trying to brood again. I think that conners as the lizard is deffinatly a good answere to the you; know who will be playing the villian but just to throw this one out there god forbid we see Micheal Clark Duncan reprise his terrible role as the king pin? if they do go forward with these two films however I plan on looking at this as numbers 3 and 4 and just forgetting that the the third ever happend
kiran on Sep 7, 2008
^ Lol. Im so excited for this news. I did not like the third one too much but cmon guys, its spiderman. Ill give them a chance to redeem themeselves. But at least venom will be getting his own movie. We deserve that much from the 20 min. we only received of him in the third film.
big r on Sep 7, 2008
"The difference between Spider-Man and Batman is that Batman is dueling with a dark side of himself, and that's not what Peter Parker's struggle is. Peter Parker has no dark side of himself" A hero without a dark side or some kind of inner conflict is an awfully boring hero. I think the films will have the Lizard and Carnage, i read somewhere that they wanted to limit the scope of the film to two villains but I'm not sure. The reason Spiderman 3 was such a disappointment (I didn't think it was totally horrible) was because of the Sandman, he was a totaly unnecessary addition and screwed it up by having the writers rewrite the film's internal history. If they removed Sandman then I think the film could have worked.
SlashBeast on Sep 7, 2008
#52 Actually Sandman was original Venom wasnt. Which hould worry some because it means they planned to rewrite the movie history from the beginning.
Joker on Sep 7, 2008
They've got to erase the third film and treat it like it was just a bad dream. I cannot accept Uncle Ben's murder was reduced to homicide from an accident. They've watered down the message: "With great power comes great responsibility" because the death of Uncle Ben became accidental instead of murder.
Carlo on Sep 7, 2008
I hope because of spiderman 3 doing so well at the box office they dont not change change the way the 4th should be. The third one wasnt all that great but it could have and should have been alot better.
Big r on Sep 7, 2008
I think (and I am I pretty sure I am on my own on this one) if they can get it right they should bring back the green goblin. In the comic book Norman Osbourne does not die, he gets another body with a similar injury and puts it in his coffin, in his absence he recruits the Hobgoblin as his replacement. So I think that they could use that story line with both the hobgoblin and the green goblin. This would then give us an answer to the tidbit "once you find out who the villain is, you'll know who's playing it" because they will more than likely bring back Willem Dafoe.
Kaiser on Sep 8, 2008
ok i was so excited for spiderman 3 as it had venom who if you saw the cartoon then you will know venom was a bit of guy with a short string (eddie Brock) now when i saw who they cast as venom then thats where i started with my concerns, for starters eddie was cocky and they kinda got that right but he was a guy who liked to workout so he was fairly big and a bit more masculine more so than topher grace...now what do they do with venom....have they made every fan think god this venom guy was rubbish, no. they have to bring him back and make him push peter parker to the brink some how because venom is a good plot but not the way sami or sony had him played as. we saw peter parker go all dark and cheesy which was not so good and could of done better i think but i like seeing him pushed and struggle to overcome these villains like spiderman 2 and 1, the emotions were just right, if anyone remembers but mary jane goes missing...maybe dead but lost in another realm. Venom should of been the third and maybe sandman of goblin but not all 3, the emphasis was all over the shop. And what set warning signs was also the beginning with the goblin guy....the snowboarder now what the hell were they thinking with him, wrong wrong wrong!! Sony better think hard and look at all detail and listen to fans more......I have high hopes they will get it right. oh and tobey maguire is still good for the part.
adam on Sep 8, 2008
I think shooting them back-to-back is a good idea, only because it guarantees at least two more movies with the same actors. And you don't need MJ (IF Dunston won't return)--brink back Dallas Howard and have her be the love interest for awhile.
NadaNuff on Sep 8, 2008
Is spiderman going to be in The Avengers movie?? If so, do u think that in the next installment we will see some characters cross over into the film? I was pondering this...
big r on Sep 8, 2008
what this movie needs is character development not another cry me a river syndrome because the movie is nowhere near the comics except for the action sequences. it he stops crying we may have a great movie like iron man or even better like the dark knight
bastard on Sep 8, 2008
it should be part of a huge civil war series of movies and therefore the bad guy would be played by robert downey jr.
alex on Sep 10, 2008
I'm excited about this. 1 and 2 were great, 3... not so much. While I dont really have any opinion on Dunsts performance as MJ, I gotta admit I hate it when they change actors/actresses in sequels, so I hope they bring back Dunst as well.
MBD on Sep 10, 2008
I heard that Carnage and Lizard will be in Spiderman 4. As for Spiderman 5,I have no idea. But The Juggernaut and Electro are still out there. And they never covered the issue of The Red Skull killing Peter Parker's parents(like in the comic books). The Rose would be an interesting villain. And so what if Kirsten Dunst doesn't come back? Who gives a shit? I don't! Besides,I think Ron Howard's daughter is a breath of fresh air in an aging series! Hell,Bryce Dallas Howard is way prettier than Dunst! And besides, all Mary Jane does is bitch and moan and cry and scream. YAWN! Bye MJ!!!
Tony on Sep 13, 2008
You know,when I was a kid,I read some great stories on Spiderman and his foe The Tarantula! Now those were some classic fights!! Now who could play Tarantula? Antonio Banderas? Or is he too old? Rey Misterio is too short! LOL! Maybe Freddy Rodriguez from Planet Terror?? Hmm. Could work...
Tony on Sep 13, 2008
Spiderman has tons of memorable villains to fight but they have to be big enough to carry the film. The odds of non-Spiderman villains andcharacters appearing in the films are highly unlikely seeing as Sony owns Spiderman and films like Iron Man being property of Marvel.
SlashBeast on Sep 13, 2008
The Rose could carry a movie. Hell,they did a seven part arc on him! Have Peter Parker get tangled up with a lovely Russian Spy ala The Black Widow. She tells Parker that The Red Skull killed his parents! Now the plot thickens...
Tony on Sep 13, 2008
Okay, so seriously, i read all these comments and never stop seeing the same stupid stuff. Possible return villains - so that i'm on topic - Venom, Doc Ock or anyone who's been in, this is a film (or 2) based on a comic book remember people. So death is not an issue. I do agree that Gwen should be his love interest though. Now to go back to the point of my post. It is BASED on a comic book. This is like when Ultimate Spiderman first started running. It IS a rewrite, like it or not. The characters are about all they need to keep. Their names and abilities. Daredevil, some X-Men, various other superheroes have had their origins redone. Characters have been made gay, made straight, made pansy or made strong. Hell look at other examples of reimaginings like BSG - Theyve made half their main cast change GENDER. Seeing so called fans saying theyve ruined this that or the other for them bugs me. Theyve ruined nothing, theyve created another 'verse. Oh, and for the record, I quite enjoyed number 3, it had more of a comic book feel to it. Funnier, dafter - How many geeks that you know that get powers and suddenly start losing their morals wouldnt act like Pete did? But anyway, bring them on, more films the merrier until they are truly flogging it, and yes. I'd like to see Pete in the Avengers film.
Max on Sep 14, 2008
Having Spiderman in the Avengers movie will make it even more crowded than it already is, besides, Spiderman is owned by Sony, not Marvel Studios, and it's highly unlikely they'll sell the rights.
SlashBeast on Sep 14, 2008
What a dick you are,Max! Bring back Venom and Doctor Octopus??? THEY ARE DEAD, YOU RETARD! This is SPIDERMAN not DAYS OF OUR SUCK LIVES! Go watch a soap opera, bitch! Oh, and BTW, I thought Spiderman 3 was the best one of the franchise so far! The Avengers? Fuck The Avengers!
Tony on Sep 14, 2008
I'm so terribly sorry, what could I have been thinking Tony. I mean its not like in a Spider-Man universe they'd ever 'killed' Mary Jane, or 'killed' Aunt May, (Shock horror) the villains, including both Goblins at various times throughout the years). And who should be in the most recent issues? OH...MY...GOD! Theres Harry Osbourne! AND MJ? AND MAY? Well clearly you're right that I know NOTHING about Spider-Man. Or lets look at Marvel in a more general sense. Captain America? Nope, died and been back too. Surely the X-Men can prove your point for you... Xavier, Colossus, Jean Grey, nope seems that list just goes on too.
Max on Sep 15, 2008
That's just it. I'm talking movies. You're talking comic books. If "dead people" start popping up in these movies don't you think the audience would feel cheated? Or they would say "Man,what a cop out!" I know I would!
Tony A. on Sep 15, 2008
And besides that,the death of The Green Goblin set the story in motion for Hongoblin to be born. The death of Venom paves the way for Carnage. The deaths of Doctor Octopus and Harry Osborn served one purpose only: dramatic effect. I'll be pissed off as hell if any of them come back!
Tony A. on Sep 15, 2008
I agree, comic book films should stay away from the phenomenon of "comic book death" where a person is NEVER dead unless you see the body, incinerate it and throw it's ashes into a river, and even then you can only be 89.98% sure that the character is dead.
SlashBeast on Sep 15, 2008
I say bring on Tarantula and The Black Widow. When Parker's not doing the Tango with Widow he's doing The Dance Of Death with Tarantula. Near the end of the film,he finds out Red Skull killed his mom and dad. Now,he wants revenge. Kick into Spiderman 5.
Tony A. on Sep 18, 2008
Yawwwwwn im bored of this. the 2nd and 3rd movies sucked... deal with. Wanna see how u mkae a sequel hire christian bale and make another batman movie
Zaidi on Sep 19, 2008
The 2nd and 3rd movies capitalized on the 1st one you putz!
Tony A. on Sep 19, 2008
Looking back, I did enjoy the films at one point. But now, it just doesn't flow right. They had a good idea, they just didn't work with it well enough. Not to mention Toby does a decent Parker at times but is awful as Spiderman. Spiderman needs his puns, wisecracks and humor. Toby doesn't use any of that. This thought brung me to Web of Shadows, which I played recently. Excellent imagery in the game. That is how Spiderman should be portrayed. Also, I find it a bit funny due to the rambling about how Spiderman is a sunshine & rainbows hero. No. Sure, he's not Batman. But that's a given. Honestly I could care less about the sequels, I'll still watch them. But they will probably end up being weakly scripted films that have the same dry spiderman character. (ie: Toby) Give me a director, a writer and a cast that can work with a good idea. Just look at the recent Batman works and the current direction for Marvel Films Department. The only problem about the Batman Begins / The Dark Knight films is how Bale portrays the dark knight. But damn is he the best Bruce Wayne we've ever had. Regardless, if they fired Toby and got better writers, things would look up. Give me more sadistic villains. Give me a deeper plotline. Web of Shadows delivered, but in all honesty with Toby not stepping up.... there can be no Spiderman. As I said. Spiderman has wit. Toby has dryness. It doesn't work.
Mike on Nov 13, 2008
i agree i think the smart ass humouros attitude of spidey in web of shadwos is the real spiderman. i think spiderman shouldnt be taken so dark and seriously. I noe raimi made the movie unique and all but i think if they make the next one plain and simple with the normal superhero things instead of some wierd idea it will work out better.
silly dilly on Nov 27, 2008
i liked spiderman 3.. and this time a female villain would be interesting.. i hope chris does the music again.
brendan on Jul 27, 2009
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