Sunday Discussion: Juno and Hollywood's Sequel Game

February 17, 2008
Source: SlashFilm


There's no denying it - Juno has become a huge hit! It's currently just passing the $120 million mark at the box office and is expected to end somewhere around $136 million. With that much earned domestically in the US, Juno will have passed Superbad, Enchanted, Bee Movie, Live Free or Die Hard, Ocean's Thirteen, and Saw IV in box office earnings. Why am I bringing up Juno again? Because earlier this week an article caught my eye - SlashFilm posted a quote from the film's director, Jason Reitman, who had "debunked" a rumor that a Juno sequel was in the works. It really got me thinking about the idea of the sequel in Hollywood and how they're just made for money and not for story.

When it comes to Juno, it's been incredibly exciting to watch this film blow up into the hit it is today. Now it has four Oscar nominations, including Best Picture, and is one of the biggest indie successes in history. The New York Post recently questioned Reitman about a sequel and he instantly shot it down, saying "I can't see it. She got pregnant once; I just can't see her getting pregnant again." He makes a great point about the obvious story issues, but before even bringing those up, I would have instantly responded with a "no" myself if I were questioned whether a sequel could even work.

After reading that story and actually talking with Peter from SlashFilm about it, I got to wondering whether a Juno sequel could even work at all. The best argument for a situation that could work is something like Clerks II, where the concept on a whole is revisited, but it's not a direct sequel where Juno gets pregnant again. I loved Clerks II and thought it was a fitting sequel that worked even 12 years later. Thinking about Juno, I could actually see a sequel being made 10 to 12 years from now, by another director, and it would still be a great movie that touches more on the Juno concept than acts as a sequel. It's possible, but I really don't want to see it. Juno was such a perfect movie on its own.

The root of my discussion today is really about the "Hollywood sequel game" as I call it. I refer to it as a game because there's an unwritten rule that says something like, if a movie makes double its budget in the first few weeks, then it's probably getting a sequel. No questions asked - if a movie makes money, it'll get a sequel. It doesn't matter how the original movie ended, it doesn't matter whether a sequel will even be similar in tone or plot, it doesn't matter who is even making the sequel. All that matters is a sequel gets made, the studio markets it in the right way, banking off of the previous film, and they cross their fingers hoping it'll be as successful as the first.

Everyone knows that typically sequels are never better than the original movies. By now I think we can all count on our fingers and recall from heart the names of the sequels that were better than the originals (Terminator 2 and Spider-Man 2 at least). I'm wondering, however, if we really know this or if we are just following a trend together. If you look at box office earnings, the second and third movies in a trilogy usually make more than the first movie. Everyone is guilty of seeing movies like Spider-Man 3 or The Matrix Revolutions. You all went to see them and you all helped the movie studios make their money and feel right about the decisions they made.

This sequel game that Hollywood plays is a very interesting thing to look at and discuss, because it works exactly as described. They're making movies like Wild Hogs 2 and Ghost Rider 2 because the movies made money, despite how bad the reviews were or even how much the general public disliked them. You must not forget that Hollywood is a business that's looking to make money just like every other business out there. Not every last film that gets made is striving to be the latest, greatest artistic expression like Juno. It's just trying to make money, and make enough to bring them into the black.

While sometimes, albeit quite rarely, sequels do turn out amazing, for the most part, they're not worth it. They're worth it to Hollywood - because they'll make their money back - but they're not worth it for you and I. I really do not want to see a Juno sequel unless it is at least 10 years down the road and revisited in a way that doesn't harm the original movie's premise. Until those 10 years pass by, I'll be watching countless sequels that Hollywood is pumping out and groaning every time I hear of another sequel that gets green lit just because it made money.

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Why man? why even give this credence? Isn't Juno exactly what we want? Fresh, innovative and original. Not a franchise. Successful? great! move on, next story. Surprise me with something else. There is a place for sequels, (sequels mind, not part 2 of a trilogy) they should be there if they progress the story, I agree, Terminator 2, sequel and great. Aliens. Spider-Man 2, not a sequel, the next chapter in a franchise, better than 1 though and ultimately welcome, but sequels are, as you rightly point out, churned out if the original is a commercial success. As great as Juno is, there is no place for a Juno 2 but that doesn't mean it wont be milked and thus reduce the brilliance of this particular gem (who doesn't think less of Star Wars now its been tainted with prequel garbage?).

Dr.Duvel on Feb 17, 2008


I think thats the dumbest thing ever, why the hell would they make a sequel to Juno they would take a perfect movie and just drive it into the ground just to make money, Hollywood just cannot leave great movies alone. On the other hand I've enjoyed some sequels and without sequels we wouldn't have much to watch lol.

Curtis on Feb 17, 2008


Most of Juno's success is due to a big marketing blitz. It won't win Best Picture; no way.

avoidz on Feb 17, 2008


The Juno storyline actually can leave lots to the imagination when it comes to a sequel. It doesn't have to be another variation of Juno, but can be the development of one of the characters. Or the town. Wouldn't it be nice if sequels wouldn't have to be "more of the same" but could be some refreshing new angle to an old story?

Maryann on Feb 17, 2008


omg...please no Juno 2: Afterbirth Studios see films make money and figure they are garaunteed the same with a sequel. The same people will go see it and it will make as much money. Except movies shouldn't be made for that reason. movies should be made to tell a story. And in this case a great story.

Heckle on Feb 17, 2008


How bout Juno 2...set about 15 years later...on the verge of her thirties...and voila...she has her kid show up again...lots of crazy jokes about adoption and abandonment...or did they do that already with gilmore girls?

Ramon M. on Feb 17, 2008


yea, isn't there a kid to talk about? i mean, yea, the story's kind of been told thousands of times. but can't we come back to this story but now it's the kid's story? but i'd like to see this 10 years from now or so. not anytime soon. it might be a movie, but seeing the kid all grown up in a year just kills it.

craziemutant on Feb 19, 2008


oh yea, i forgot to say: i also think a sequel should only be made if it can progress the story in a tasteful and artistic way, not for the sake of money. too bad everyone's looking for money. otherwise, we'd be getting much more artistic films on the silver screen.

craziemutant on Feb 19, 2008

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