X-Men Origins: Wolverine Going Back for Extensive Reshoots
With the Watchmen legal battle finally coming to its end, and Fox not getting more than just a large helping of undeserved money, I would expect the anti-20th Century Fox backlash to slowly dissipate. But with this news today, it might swing back into high gear. Last August we reported that X-Men Origins: Wolverine was experiencing some issues, primarily with power struggles between its director, Gavin Hood, and Fox's CEO Tom Rothman. And this was all before the trailer hit. However, an update has arrived from Collider tonight that says they're going back to Vancouver to do some extensive reshoots. Although I'm normally optimistic, I'm pretty sure this is a very bad sign, despite the other opinions I've heard from my peers.
We've heard a lot of negative behind-the-scenes buzz about X-Men Origins: Wolverine for a long time but have tried to play it off because we were hoping it would turn out great in the end. Obviously the trailer was impressive, but for some odd reason I felt like it wasn't as polished as it could be. Normally I love trailers like that, but I could tell that Gavin Hood had some problems keeping his vision of Wolverine intact. In regards to the production, word is that Richard Donner (yes, of Superman: The Movie), was often on set "ghost directing" and providing more than just minimal feedback. While this shouldn't be a bad thing, apparently it is, but Gavin Hood still might get his chance to go back and reshoot a lot of the movie.
Collider is reporting that Fox is conducting very extensive reshoots over the next few weeks. They're also saying that studios usually try and keep news like this under the radar, but Fox even wanted to bring in some journalists to cover these reshoots. Why? Well because apparently Gavin Hood is going to be directing them. My guess is that he's getting his chance to fix the movie, but they're also trying to "cover up" any previous bad buzz by bringing journalists in and "showing" them that it's Hood directing, not Rothman and not Donner. So why didn't Gavin get to do this to begin with? And I don't understand how rushing reshoots this late in the game can be called a good thing. I'm sorry, but I'm not drinking this Kool-Aid.
What everyone is saying is that the trailer, which received an extreme amount of positive buzz, gave Fox the confidence they needed to go back and do these reshoots. That may be true, but I again question why this isn't something they thought about earlier. Fox really thought a Wolverine movie wouldn't be a big hit? They've got to be kidding me! As much as I'm hoping that X-Men Origins: Wolverine does turn out to be the gritty, badass Wolverine movie we've all wanted to see ever since Hugh Jackman unleashed his claws in X-Men in 2001, I've got a feeling this isn't going to be it. And it's not Gavin Hood's fault. We know exactly who to blame - the very same studio that tried to scoop up Watchmen. Good luck Fox!
Not surprised by this turn of events. I just hope they aren't doing the reshoots to try and tone down the violence, to get a larger audience. Because it would SUCK.
Daniel on Jan 16, 2009
Jackman and Hood will pull it off... faith
Jason on Jan 16, 2009
Sad that studios want an easy sure shot for money, and not a vision of grit and quality that lasts within us movie goers... Did I place it?
Jason on Jan 16, 2009
I take from this that the release date has not been moved. I hope this does not get ruined.
kaiser on Jan 16, 2009
Agrees with #1 & 2 Hope they don't do the reshoot to tune down the violence or screw up the movie. Getting larger audience doesnt have to be that way. As i always say...We'll have to wait and see.
Fisherr on Jan 16, 2009
I hope they will re-shoot the helicopter scene, or better cut it out. It was really ridiculous, a baby talk ridiculous. It seems Fox are going very hard on teenage boys with this movie, I am afraid that Wolverine will be "so bad it is funny" movie. Maybe re-shooting will help to make it more serious, I don't know. I do not expect it to be a good movie anyway.
Nekrosoma on Jan 16, 2009
Maybe the comments people made about the helicopter scene made them think about reshooting lol. I think a lot of the studios really monitor internet forums when they release a trailer or movie details. Good internet hype on a movie can really impact its box office performance. Its also obvious that both a director and producer can be absolutely clueless about their audience. The internet lets them get an easy sampling of real viewer opinions. I remember this trailer getting some mixed reviews because of some of the scenes most notably the helicopter one. Dark Knights success probably has the bean counters at these studios licking their chops so maybe now they are all trying harder for a win with these super hero movies.
JimD on Jan 16, 2009
It's offical... I HATE FOX!!! All they do is F with the director and ruin movies. I wish they would go under or get bought out by a good stuido.
K on Jan 16, 2009
No offense to Gavin Hood and all, but if you've got Richard Donner giving you tips... ...maybe you should listen to them. Hopefully they're going back to reshoot some of the "FOX scenes" into something a little more worthwhile.
Pete the Geek on Jan 16, 2009
Reshoots are NEVER a good sign. I'm excited for this movie, but from the trailer I could tell it was suffering from X-Men III syndrome. Too many characters crammed into the story means that people who love Deadpool or Gambit aren't going to be satisfied when they are not more fully explored. The movie is called "WOLVERINE." Focus it on that guy and you'll be fine.
Tom Brazelton on Jan 16, 2009
Couldn't this just be the studio wanting to work origins into the marvel universe sub-plot that has been happening with all marvel films lately?
Skamps on Jan 16, 2009
I have the utmost faith in Hugh Jackman and Gavin Hood. They will surely pull it off! Fox will learn yet another lesson....I hope! By the way, the original "X-Men" came out in the summer of 2000, not '01.
Spider on Jan 16, 2009
with jackman it cant be that bad it will still kick ass, true it may not be as incredible or as dream fulfilling as we might have hoped but hey thats fox right? just pray that these reshoots get the time they deserve and the atention aswell. I have hope and confidence in this. the trailer did look good but it also looked all hollywoodish and kinda lame at points.
tyler w on Jan 16, 2009
I think this one might actually turn out alright... lets not jump ship on it so soon Firstshowing.net...
KyB on Jan 16, 2009
"Obviously the trailer was impressive, but for some odd reason I felt like it wasn't as polished as it could be. Normally I love trailers like that, but I could tell that Gavin Hood had some problems keeping his vision of Wolverine intact." Hold on, what? How come you didn't mention those misgivings earlier? Alex, this is what you wrote when the trailer came out: "...this trailer delivers! There's a lot to love in this trailer and not a lot to complain about. So from the looks of it, X-Men Origins: Wolverine is going to be a hell of a way to kick of the summer." Hindsight is always 20/20. And that's "kick off". Alex: still a tool.
Wottock Hunt on Jan 16, 2009
^^^^^ that made me lawl but ya i hope the movie still turns out good
djw on Jan 16, 2009
whatever happens, I hope it will turn out great in the end
Susana on Jan 16, 2009
I'll admit, the trailer came w/ good timing to generate buzz, but overall it was lacking any refined look - especially from the director of Totsi. What the heck was Richard donner doing there? Was it that they didn't trust him to point the camera and shoot?
Jimbo Slims on Jan 16, 2009
Why are we assuming that Fox was the guilty party here? How can we assume that we know all the details in this case? For all we know, Fox could have been quietly talking to Warners about their stake in the Watchmen's rights but Warners ignored them. Fox has gotten a lot of bad publicity for pressing a stake in this movie in court, publicity they knew would result. But if Warners would not talk to Fox years ago, court might have been their last option.
Thomas on Jan 16, 2009
Maybe they see that Watchmen is R rated and hardcore and dosent hold back and so they decided thats what Wolverine needs to do to. I dont see reshoots as good or bad, I see them as only making the movie better.
Richard on Jan 16, 2009
Doesn't matter. It's FOX. I'm not seeing any of their movies this year. Meh...no biggie.
Aravena on Jan 16, 2009
just like i said before. FUCK FOX.
ethermay on Jan 16, 2009
Boycott this movie, they don't deserve the money they are going to make from Watchmen and they are going to make this movie shit.
Nate on Jan 16, 2009
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fanboy d on Jan 16, 2009
So f*ck marvel, f*ck huge jackman, f*ck gavin hood, and f*k wolverine? WT* guys, don't go support other FOX movies, but to not support this one is IMHO retarded, plus you know you'll see it so LOL at you.
Richard on Jan 16, 2009
The trailer sucked, IMO. I love the Wolverine character as played by Hugh Jackman, but I really didn't get all the positive buzz. Cheesy, poorly staged, lackluster effects...just didn't look promising. At least Fox is attempting to fix what looked like a shitty movie. Not exactly trying to defend Fox, they are the worst studio in Hollywood, but at least they are making an effort to salvage the film.
The Hornet King on Jan 16, 2009
There is 1 of 2 things happening here. 1. The movie pre-screened really bad reviews because of specific parts that can be changed and they want to change it before they run out of time/money. 2. The movie pre-screened was the Rothman/Donner cut while the trailer that got such a positive vibe was depicting what would have been the Gavin Hood cut. Movie studios often play these "trailer tricks" to see how audiences react to different trailers and then adjust the movie accordingly.
KG on Jan 17, 2009
It's one of the few times I can get my beefcake fix..I'm going no matter what. 🙂 Us girls will have a great time...ah..just as long as Wolverine shirt is off 50% of the time! 😉
Bry from Chi on Jan 17, 2009
I hope the scenes they reshoot are putting a mask on fucking deadpool,donner not a bad thing superman the movie & superman 2 were cool in their day and best superman films to date,wolverine please don't fucking suck.
zetsu on Jan 18, 2009
Hm, the last big budget film I remember that went back for extensive reshoots was spider-man 3, and look how well that turned out. Now I realize the circumstances are different, and they went back to include more action in spidey 3, but the basics are the same. They went back... thus meaning the end result the first time was not good enough. Why else would you go back? Fox has a lot riding on this; they know it, so they need to cement its intensity. I think it's going to come across as a cheesy, yet warm-hearted action flick. Please don't expect much more. I wanted more, but... I know better. 🙂
Doug on Jan 18, 2009
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