Chris Nolan Talks About the Superman Reboot and Batman 3
Earlier today, the LA Times' Hero Complex published a big new update from Christopher Nolan covering all things Superman and Batman. I know our readers have been anxiously waiting to hear our thoughts on all that he had to say, so let's get right down to it. It's a meaty article with lots of juicy new quotes, but Nolan does confirm that he is developing the big new Superman reboot and is also working on the final Batman movie. In fact, the way he ended up working on Superman is that he came to a point where he couldn't agree with David S. Goyer about the story on the third Batman and took this temporary detour as a "distraction."
It was announced a month ago that Chris Nolan would be "shepherding" the new Superman and that it will indeed be a reboot, technically an entirely new trilogy. Where did the idea come from to begin with? Nolan says it originated with his colleague David Goyer, who worked on the Batman scripts with Chris and his brother Jonathan. "He basically told me, 'I have this thought about how you would approach Superman,'" Nolan says. "I immediately got it, loved it and thought: That is a way of approaching the story I've never seen before that makes it incredibly exciting. I wanted to get Emma and I involved in shepherding the project right away and getting it to the studio and getting it going in an exciting way." There really couldn't be a better inception (no pun intended) story than that, because I know Goyer's idea is probably awesome.
As for what we can expect with this new Superman, Nolan (known for never revealing anything early) delves into some interesting areas, talking about how great it will be, without actually revealing any major details. "It's very exciting, we have a fantastic story," Nolan boasts. "And we feel we can do it right. We know the milieu, if you will, we know the genre and how to get it done right." So although we won't see this new movie until 2012 or 2013, if even that, they've at least fleshed out an idea that Warner Brothers likes. He goes on:
"A lot of people have approached Superman in a lot of different ways. I only know the way that has worked for us that's what I know how to do," Nolan said, emphasizing the idea that Batman exists in a world where he is the only superhero and a similar approach to the Man of Steel would assure the integrity needed for the film. "Each serves to the internal logic of the story. They have nothing to do with each other."
Another fascinating idea that he talks about regarding the Superman movie is casting and how important it is to put together a complete cast, including all the supporting characters, of the most talented actors (which is exactly what he's done for all of his movies anyway). Nolan talks about the importance of doing just that:
"I went to the studio with the analogy of 'I want to cast the way they did in 1978 with Superman,' where they had Brando and Glenn Ford and Ned Beatty and all these fantastic actors in even small parts, which was an exotic idea for a superhero movie at the time. It really paid off, too. As a kid watching Superman it seemed enormous and I realized later by looking at it that a lot of that was actually the casting, just having these incredibly talented people and these characterizations. And Marlon Brando is the first guy up playing Superman’s dad. It's incredible."
This is why I totally love Chris Nolan. This guy gets it. And his movies, some of the best of this decade, show it, too. As excited as I am to see Nolan shepherd this new Superman franchise, he's not going to be directing it. He won't confirm whether the rumors about his brother Jonathan Nolan directing it are true or not, but I have a feeling they're not (Jonathan is apparently satisfied with the position he's in). So while we wait to find out who's going to direct the Superman movies, let's bring our focus back to Batman. That sequel is officially "picking up steam as well," which is damn good to hear, but Nolan won't say much about it either.
He does confirm one thing, though - this will be the end of his Batman trilogy. "I'm very excited about the end of the film, the conclusion, and what we’ve done with the characters." And you know what, I'm totally fine with that. If he can wrap it up in a brilliant way, then let's see it. Apparently Jonathan Nolan took that story idea that Goyer came up with and is now writing a full screenplay based on it (so please don't disturb him while he's working). And if you're excited simply at the idea that there is a screenplay being written for Batman 3 or whatever it will be called, just wait until you hear what Nolan has to say about his work so far.
"Without getting into specifics, the key thing that makes the third film a great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story," he said. "And in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story."
"My brother has come up with some pretty exciting stuff. Unlike the comics, these thing don't go on forever in film and viewing it as a story with an end is useful. Viewing it as an ending, that sets you very much on the right track about the appropriate conclusion and the essence of what tale we're telling. And it hearkens back to that priority of trying to find the reality in these fantastic stories. That’s what we do."
As beautiful as all of that sounds, it's no easy task. "We'll wait to see how it turns out… He's struggling to put it together into the epic story that you want it to be." Just like James Cameron, Christopher Nolan is one of those directors that I aboslutely love hearing quotes from, no matter what it is he's talking about. And when it's Superman and Batman, that gets to the fanboy inside me and I get pretty excited. I consider Christopher Nolan to be one of the best directors working today. Like everyone else, I can't frickin' wait to see the third Batman movie in his trilogy, and I'm glad they're making some progress. Despite knowing nothing about the story, I already feel like it's headed in the right direction. At least from what Nolan says, it sounds like it is!
Head to Hero Complex to read the entire article if you haven't yet. I have so much faith in Nolan it's actually probably a bit ridiculous, but that's fine with me. I'd let that guy take over almost any franchise if he wanted it. But I couldn't be happier knowing that it's both Superman and Batman that he reigns over. Thoughts?
This is going to be GOOD! Nolan and Goyer just made my damn day! Whee heeee 🙂
JudasBarron on Mar 10, 2010
very excited for superman now that i know Goyer's idea was even outside of Nolan's realm of thinking
talli on Mar 10, 2010
Dont like how he is ending the batman series!!! 🙁 Maybe they can start up a film adaption of the Batman Beyond series!:) that show was awesome I dont enjoy superman at all... basically his only weakness is a green crystal on some far away planet no one can get to, Its B.S. but i might think about seeing it if it has a good plot and trailer
zach on Mar 10, 2010
Man the only way i can think of superman from a completely different perspective would be to have the movie be from someone else's perspective...about this godlike person watching over them... and how terrifying it would be.
Dan on Mar 10, 2010
Seriously just imagine how incredibly epic the last 5 minutes of the last Batman will be. I mean the film as a whole will be a masterpiece I have no doubt but I have the feeling that the last 30 minutes of the film will be the most gloriously awesome thing ever. He has a lot to top from TDK and I get the feeling hes going to do it and more. Imagine an old Bruce Wayne 10 maybe even 20 years later, Alfred is dead, his memories of his old friends and love, Rachel and Harvey lie in the distance and ,he and Gordon are the only ones standing between Gothams villains and its downfall. Hes really challenging himself saying it will be the last because that means it has to be the most extraordinary. Hopefully it has a loooong runtime, Im talking 3 and a half hours epicness. Im not really excited for Superman and I really hope he finishes what he started with Batman first before taking on that endeavour. I never really cared about Superman as a whole, I mean hes the Man of friggin steel thats only weakness is some random crystal. I like Batman because hes human with every weakness a man has. Lets just hope no one dies during that production so people cant use the excuse that its the only reason its praised...no disrespect to the late Ledger of course. If Deception is nearly as mindtwistingly awesome as I think its gonna be, then I think in my mind Nolan will become the best director alive. Im still calling JGL as The Riddler.
Cody w on Mar 10, 2010
I agree with zach Superman is an iconic hero, but he can only be hurt by one thing, and it gets old.
Xerxex on Mar 10, 2010
I hate to be this nerdy but you guys are wrong about Superman only being hurt by one thing. Superman is also vulnerable to magic and sheer strength. Anything, or anyone, magical (i.e. nothing comes to mind) can hurt him and anything strong enough (i.e. Doomsday, Darkseid, etc.) can not only hurt him, but kill him. Sorry to be so nerdy.
Joshua m on Mar 10, 2010
#6 calm down. nolan himself has admitted even his movies have some flaws. it won't be a masterpiece. lets just hope it lives close to the hype.
jake the snake on Mar 10, 2010
No clue on the title. Villains won't be riddler and even he said no mr. freeze so it's either the Joker continuing on in the third movie and some low level villain to be a side attraction.
jake the snake on Mar 10, 2010
#6, i totally agree, #9 every movie has flaws, but Nolan seems to spit gold from his fingertips. I hate being pumped for movies cause i always feel let down, i expect perfection, and no movie can produce that. But I went into TDK and was still blown away by every second of it, even expecting a masterpiece. Nolan will pull this off because he wants it to end, and because he is not a director that will put out a crappy movie for money, he will finish it the way he wants it finished, and I look forward to how he does that.
Dave on Mar 10, 2010
#11 Dave I agree. I think TDK was a masterpiece but I don't think they can do it again. If Inception lives up to my hype than I will believe it.
jake the snake on Mar 10, 2010
He's gonna kill Bruce Wayne.
israeliDude on Mar 10, 2010
The Joker again? I seriously hope not, especially if it's the last one. I'd like for him to direct the new Superman trilogy though.
Rick on Mar 10, 2010
#8 the only way Superman would work is if they bring in Darkseid as the main protagonist, I don't really need an origins story, I think pretty much everyone knows where The Man of Steel comes from, I would love to see a story where Darkseid is coming and Superman is forced to deal with him.
Xerxex on Mar 10, 2010
My question is: Did Nolan mean for Rachael Dawes' to HATE Bruce Wayne? I mean she really was not likeable in TDK, I'm was really ok with her dying...either she was supposed to be hateable or it was bad writing, I mean she hated him!
Xerxex on Mar 10, 2010
It's great news to finally hear that Nolan is going to be overlooking the new Superman film. Bryan Singer really fucked up the last film and I am so happy to hear that the man who gave us "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight" will be overlooking the making of Superman. Singer is a fine filmmaker but what the hell was he thinking when he made "Superman Returns". The film was boring and the whole idea as having it be a sequal to Superman II with some guy who looks like Christopher Reeve playing Superman was down right stupid.
last son on Mar 10, 2010
hmmm??? bad guy for the 3rd batman??? epic ending???? hmmm??? these guys have big shoes to fill considering that the Dark Knight was pretty much WOAH, i mean really good 😀 you know who might make a good villan, the puppet guy , the ventriloquist, with the puppet mob boss, scarface, or ........ who???? hm???? superman is played out 😛
DaftPUNKFAN on Mar 10, 2010
Thats exactly what I said Jake, if inception lives up to what I think its gonna be then the last Batman will be nothing short of a masterpiece. I never said his movies dont have its flaws but seriously you gotta really try to actually look for them in his movies and thats an accomplishment in its self. I havent heard any comments on who the villains will be so I was just taking a shot in the dark. Like Dave said Nolan is just freaking amazing. But The prestige is in top 3 along with memento so of course Im gonna say that.
Cody w on Mar 11, 2010
Please, "no more" Superman movies... unless there is a cross over with other DC heroes. Can we please get a Justice League movie?!?! I don't understand why they can't get it together over there at DC / Warner.
DJ SID on Mar 11, 2010
im with the other perspective idea of superman. that would be effing sweet, kinda like cloverfield or something, like doomsday comes and some guy gets all the footage, thatd be fricking sweet!!!! thats just the booze talking lol but tell me that wouldnt be sweet ass.
Perseus on Mar 11, 2010
Batman, Batman, Blah, Blah, Blah! Enough with Batman already. How many movies does the guy have already? Too many if you ask me. I'm all for more Superman movies though if they're done right, and as long as they don't have Lex Luthor as the main villain. Or maybe a Batman Vs Superman movie. That'd be okay.
Mega Jet Jaguar on Mar 11, 2010
QT will direct, just wait and see 🙂
David Banner on Mar 11, 2010
#23; I just came in my pants just thinking about that possibility!
Bruce Wayne on Mar 11, 2010
I would like to see catwoman as the final villain. I don't want to see mr freeze or penguin.
Lesprige on Mar 11, 2010
#3 Krypton blew up so the Kryptonite is not on the planet (kryptonite was was the planet). Anyway its a reboot so the story can change as can his strength. bring in darkseid or braniac, someone he can throw some serios punches at.
Ross on Mar 11, 2010
It might be the third of this current cycle/iteration, but it's not Batman 3. Show some respect to the people who came before. It's Batman 7, at least, like Casino Royale was Bond 21. There will undoubtedly be more Batman films with different actors and a new director within the next five years. Don't kid yourself that the studio is just going to put that cash cow to sleep. Whatever follows just won't be part of this cycle, that's all. Pray the reboot isn't yet another origin story, though...
PhoenixWright on Mar 11, 2010
Im just sad that he wont be doing a justice league movie
Hale18 on Mar 11, 2010
i was hoping for a bruce wayne cameo in the new Superman film . *sigh*
mm on Mar 11, 2010
Batman kills himself? 🙂
ryderup on Mar 11, 2010
#17: totally agree!!! #18: Daft Punk FTMFW!!! #23: that sounds good... LOL I heard some time ago, before TDK was shooted, that Jude Law was being considered for the Joker role. Could he be a good replacement for the master piece Ledger did? don't think so but, I definitely want to see The Joker in the 3rd installment. And for another villain... hmm... I would really love to watch Catwoman again.
Chucho on Mar 11, 2010
From the C-Nol quotes, I have a feeling that in the conclusion of B3, something drastic will happen to Bruce Wayne to cause him to .... (Dun Dun Dah!!) hang up the cape! I hope I'm wrong, I would love the series To continue even after C-Nol.
Smokey on Mar 11, 2010
Wow this news actually sucks. I don't know how Nolan can say this "emphasizing the idea that Batman exists in a world where he is the only superhero and a similar approach to the Man of Steel would assure the integrity needed for the film. "Each serves to the internal logic of the story. They have nothing to do with each other." I have no idea how "awesome" his movie is going to be with that kind of a plan GOING INTO THE MOVIE! jeez... I'll say it again, the best way to reboot Superman, go read Superman Birthright. Thats the next movie. Bad ASS!!!
harm on Mar 11, 2010
Glad some progress is being made on both the Batman and Superman franchises. While I was a bit let down by Superman, I was looking forward to more of Big Blue. Nolan seems like he'd do him justice. As for Batman 3, it was already confirmed that it was gonna happen, and the little tidbits revealed here weren't revolutionary. Still waiting for some concrete news, though I'm not expecting it anytime news. Still, great article--even if it was kinda gushing.
Nada Nuff on Mar 11, 2010
Bring back Zod! fuck Luther. Get Terence Stamp to play Jor-el or even Perry White,a nice nod to the originals,though I dont think Nolan will do that. Be interesting to see who plays Superman.
tir na nog on Mar 11, 2010
If you've got Nolan directing Batman and overseeing Superman, does this mean we could see The Dark Knight Returns in the future? Does anyone know Nolan's thoughts on this?
S on Mar 11, 2010
Im not a big Supes fan, but I know that he needs SUNLIGHT for his strength to work. so its not just kraptonite or magik that can affect him.. I would not want to see darkside or any of the other typical men in tight villains!!! watching a guy in blue tights fight other dudes in tights belongs in wrestling or comics, what makes the nolan batmans work so well is that they are rooted in everyday struggles that we can relate to. A good superman story would have to balance that out.. #4, that is a great way to approach this, Miller touches on this in both DKR and DKR2, superman is really a scary ass dude for any human to fathom!!! He should be handled in the same sense of fear and disconnection as DR MANHATTAN (which was somewhat based on supes as it is!!) He would be dealt with by his handlers closely and WOULD HAVE TO work for the govt! He would have to follow LAW, his existence would change world dynamics! Knowing there was a real superman in this world with the powers of a god would scare the crap out of me!!! I would distrust ANY country with a superman and I think most countries would change their political dealings with said country, the citizens would be mistrusting and paranoid as hell!!! You think Patriot acts are bad? Imagine a puritan enforcerer! the world would resent us even more, our enemies would multiply not pacify, we would be an even bigger threat to world peace and stability..who can stop a country with a living god?? and at the same time, what a great challenge! I also agree..who doesnt know supermans origin at this point? No need to waste more sceentime with an origin, maybe a flashback or two but I'd be really pissed to have to watch supes save another baby, damsels in distress or capture more bankrobbers etc.. maybe a world that is unaware that there is a superman in their midst might be fun and more realistic! there's all the psychology to play with too! David Caradine makes an amazing point about supes at the near end of Kill Bill2 that would go a long ways in a superman film! "Now, a staple of the superhero mythology is, there's the superhero and there's the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When that character wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic Superman stands alone. Superman didn't become Superman. Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears - the glasses, the business suit - that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent. He's weak... he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race."
Lando is a system not a man on Mar 11, 2010
Best news I've heard in a long time and we all know chris will direct the next Batman but won't direct The Man of Steel.
Jake the snake on Mar 11, 2010
#37, we've all seen kill bill volume 2.
bdizzle on Mar 11, 2010
because nolan wants to end his trilogy doesn't mean the franchise is dead. their is other directors out there that could do the batman universe justice,do you think warner bros is gonna end what probably has made them the most money. maybe its time for zack snyder to direct frank millers the dark knight returns. could someone tell nolan superman indeed does live in the same world as batman. why did he leave gene hackman of his list of great actors that starred in superman,in the 70s brando & hackman where at the top of the pile. man of steel better have a different villain then lex luthor,i'm bored shitless of superman vs the threat of real estate. that really is a threat,i think brainac,bizzaro,metallo,doomsday,darkseid or superman prime would all pose a bigger problem. i would love to see superman punch something.
DEADPOOL 72 on Mar 11, 2010
You know what Villian will fit perfectly into Nolan's Batmans? Hush, he fits perfectly into the story and tone of the films Nolans made. As for Superman, I didnt think they were anymore fans of him, I have no interest for another snoozefest superman film.
Chase on Mar 11, 2010
Definitely not ending Batman after the next movie, Just Nolan and Bale wont do them. To top the TDK they're gonna to need 2 or 3 villans, maybe have Joker sitting in Arkham with The Riddler and Catwoman running around (they kinda mention her in DK) But, I would love to see how Nolan would do The Penguin, I also would love to see The Scarecrow show up again (like he did in TDK) Thinking about how this is going to unfold can drive someone Batty. (no Pun) For similar Box office numbers as TDK, Depp as the Riddler is perfect! Catwoman is a little harder to figure out. I'm all for a new Superman flick, Singer's movie could've been alot better. I think they should have Brainac (robot version) with Lex Luthor. Since they're setting up a new trilogy who knows how they might do it. 1st Maybe have Luthor then, bring in Brainac towards the end to set up the 2nd movie and then Bizzaro for the final film. (with lex in all 3 films) WE'LL SEE!!
People's Champ on Mar 11, 2010
I'm not sure what to think of this news. I love it, but then again I'm upset by it. Like it because Superman will finally be done right and that batman is getting another movie. Upset because I don't want batman to end. I mean you can stop making movies at number three but don't just have him stop at the end. I think it will only work if he continues to be batman to the very end. It isn't about main villians that keeps batman going. Joker or not, as long as crime is alive so will the batman. He has to continue fighting. Superman called it the never ending battle. Doesn't matter if it's a guy dressed up in a costume with a bunch of question marks or a petty theif snatching a guys wallet batman will always be there. You can make a third movie with a couple of classic villians but end it to show that there is room for more. And I think Darkseid should be in the new Superman series. Maybe not in the first one but some where. Maybe number three for an epic finish. And it's the same with Superman he will still be around until the end. Batman and Superman have to meet each other some day. They are the perfect team. All I'm trying to say is leave the spot open to hint to us that they still continue, the battle for good and evil still keeps going. I would love to see Nolan finish the Superman Series and then make a Batman and Superman movie. Then they would know that each exist. ( I can't Spell)
James on Mar 11, 2010
I still want the Joker to at least have small part in Batman 3. I like the idea of him sitting in a dark, damp Arkam prision cell with the audience just seeing his outline as he talks insanley to Batman or whomever has come to visit him....maybe leaning forward ever so slightly into the light to get a glimpse of his face. As for a main villian, I would love to see Phillip Seymore Hoffman as the Penguin or maybe the Riddler (as portrayed by Johnny Depp), though I hesitate slightly with the Riddler because he is so close in line as a villan to the Joker.
Cmurder on Mar 11, 2010
Preposterous! How dare they end Batman after a third movie! If they ended the previous series after Batman Forever then we'd never have gotten Batman & Rob... Oh, wait.
SlashBeast on Mar 11, 2010
dont do it brian!!!
NY til I die on Mar 11, 2010
#42 NO DEPP! and this is good. Batman needs to end and Superman needs to be done correctly. Nolan doesn't make bad movies. He is the best
DoomCanoe on Mar 11, 2010
Never cared for his take on Batman, don't like his ideas for Supes. These guys don't live in the real world! Stop trying to make them. How can his Batman have a ending, it's never had beginning yet. He's still building his costume and Wayne Manor wasn't rebuilt. I suppose Batman will die at the end of 3. I'll stick with Marvel movies done right.
Moviegimp on Mar 11, 2010
I don't mind him ending his trilogy once he doesn't kill him off. Hopefully Wb will give it a few years before another film and the director can build on the character without having to go over origins again.
Ross on Mar 11, 2010
#23. I'm not sure if QT can work well with C Nolan. QT is so loud and fast pace and Nolan is this subtle British guy. WHo knows, Maybe they can balance each other out. I think Batman will die in the third one..As how Nolan put it, he doesn't want this "ballon to expand'. The only way to end this trilogy is to have Batman dead. I know it's sad, but if he wants to end this trilogy, this must happen. Other director can do whatever they can to reboot Batman in the future. I agree that Joker much appear in some way to link the story...in a nice way, not like how the Scarecrow just showed up randomly.
Joe C. on Mar 11, 2010
I just hope they don't put Riddler as the main villian. He can be a side or have a cameo but not the main villian. Nothing against any fans of Riddler I just think Bats has a much better selection of villians out of his gallery. IMO I think ManBat would be great. It could work. At the end of TDK batman was being chased like a bad guy. So they could pick up with ManBat doing crimes and further messing up is rep. Bats would have to take him down to show his innocents and win everyones trust back again. I loved TDK but the way they ended it with him being hated botherd me a little. He's known as a gardian a watchful protecter. Someone the citizen of Gotham fear and feel protected by. They may have never seen him but they know he's out there. It makes the people feel a little bit relaxed and at eez.(Speacially living in Gotham) Not only that, ManBat sets Batman to another level. What I mean by that is, Bats is second in command of the JLA and he takes on other heroes villians, those are people with superpowers. Manbat shows that he's not just stuck with ordinary guys that give you puzzels or stash a bunch of nives in there pockets. I think it would better prepair him for the world of JLA and really show that Bats ain't never scared. But thats just MO. Either way I'm going to go see it and buy it.
James on Mar 11, 2010
am i the only one who thinks that if the Riddler is in it it will be just like die hard 3...with batman. villains Penguin Scarecrow cameo of Joker in a dark jail cell 2 face perfect movie
DoomCanoe on Mar 11, 2010
I've never been a big Superman fan, but this has me excited. Too bad Nolan didn't direct the Spider-Man franchise...
Craig on Mar 11, 2010
A few thoughts.... 1. All the talk about "Superman finally being done right" rings kinda false with me. Not because Superman wouldn't flourish under the watchful eye of the Nolan Bros - I have nothing but the utmost confidence in those guys, and I'm sure they'll turn out some wonderful stuff - but because Bryan Singer's Superman movie is one of the most perfect superhero movies in existence. I'm conflicted here, because I always hoped we'd get more of Singer's vision, but of course, Nolan is pretty visionary himself. 2. Fanboys who pine for Depp as the Riddler aren't really interested in what's best for the movie as a whole. Versatile and talented as Depp may be, does anybody really think he can mesh with the tone and vibe of Nolan's Batman universe? Absolutely not. 3. Along the same lines, there's no way Catwoman could possibly be a good fit for this series. It's gotta be something Nolan can ground in the real world. Penguin as a sinister mobster type could work (not mutant Danny Devito-style, of course); so could Riddler as a game-obsessed serial killer. But villains of the Mr. Freeze/Catwoman/Clayface ilk will never work. I'd be interested to see him tackle some of the Knightfall subjects.... I agree, in any event, that it should be a film of epic length. I'd gladly pay full price for three hours of this vision.
Andrew 3000 on Mar 12, 2010
@ Andrew 3000 (#54) As I hold my laughter in, I'd love to hear you expound on how Superman Returns is "one of the most perfect superhero movies in existence."
Nada Nuff on Mar 12, 2010
Listen, you need tom welling to play superman. it would be great......also i better see Robin in batman, b/c he was involved in it as much as the dark night was.!
jesse R. on Mar 12, 2010
Ahhhhh!!!! I'm so glad to hear about Batman 3. I've been dieing to hear info about Batman. I know its going to be a freaking awesome movie. But I'm sad its going to be the last one, but all things have to come to an end. :C Any who so freakin stocked!!!!!!! 😀 P.S. Don't care for Superman.
CiARGO33 on Mar 13, 2010
I would like to see Harley Quinn and Joker together in the movie. My two favorite villians.
CiARGO33 on Mar 13, 2010
#48 - Moviegimp Yeah, stick with Marvel and Ghost Rider. We don't need your support, lol.
Governor on Mar 14, 2010
What would be even more exciting, having the final scene of Batman standing on top of the Daily Planet. That would be perfect injection of a Superman vs Batman flick. I'm sure not ever one agrees, but I really don't give a shit... We are all entitled to our own comments.
Tony on Mar 14, 2010
Read the graphic novel' The dark knight returns , by frank miller', which was written in the 80's. It's an instant sequal to the current batman movie series. Not much would have to be changed to millers version for it to fit in nicely with nolans movies.
steve on Mar 15, 2010
If Nolan wants to keep the villians grounded in life now with all the mobsters on the run or dead or in jail, how about Black Mask?
harm on Mar 15, 2010
Don't kill batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Men of Honor on Mar 15, 2010
I see all of this as an opportunity for an ending as well as a perfect continuity for WB: If you approach this with some use of the Nolan Logic casting potentials are limited to the storyline continuity and I believe that Johnny Depp (who was rumored for TDK) = Joker (in Arkham's cell) The Scarecrow (will most probably return) and finally Talia Al Ghul (Ducard's mentioned daughter in Batman Begins will come for revenge) Who will be cast as Ducard's daughter? Marion Cotillard (Inception) Don't be surprised if Ducard's daughter = Talia Al Ghul = Catwoman. Think of it: Talia Al Ghul (Catwoman) vs/love Bruce Wayne (Batman) = Love interest with revenge angle Catwoman-Scarecrow-Joker face off for the whole damn prize = Gotham/Wayne/Batman Forget the mob - Batman must now become legend. So the end of the trilogy could and must also connect with a possible Zach Snyder's Dark Knight Returns movie. Subtle, classy, realistic and most importantly to the Nolan world - makes sense.
Bobby on Mar 16, 2010
@#64 what are you talking about? Talia becomes Catwoman? Selina Kyle and Talia are two different characters. Nolan respects and knows the comics pretty well enough to know you can't fuse to totally different characters into one person. Besides Talia is an assasin and Selina is a jewl thief. And Scarecrow served his purpose. Look its like saying Talia Al Ghul is now Catwoman but when Selina finally comes into the picture who would she be; an assasin and the new daughter of Al Ghul?
James on Mar 16, 2010
Unless I'm mistaken, I believe that Selina Kyle was introduced as catwoman only in the movies and not the comics. True, Nolan does know and respect the comics and maybe it's stretch for the Catwoman = Talia Al Ghul. But I still do think Talia Al Ghul is relevant to suggest a new love interest.
Bobby on Mar 17, 2010
Hurt Superman? Commit mass murder or just kill Lois Lane.
twittwit on Mar 18, 2010
*************major spoilers, inside info********** everyone must remember two things first off when david nolan made the dark knight he knew he was making a sequal also chris nolan always likes to stay ahead of the audience also this is chris nolan’s batman world and not the comic world he is directing so there are some major differences,but because of heath ledgers death some tweaks were made. I received so much good info from my source i don’t know where to start but here we go. the movie starts about a year after the dark knight, batman is now a wanted criminal because of this wayne has shut down batman temporarily and is working at wayne trying to do good with medical research and not military research. during this time period gotham is again in chaos but a controlled chaos led by semi gangster oswald copplepot called the penguin (has not yet been casted) because of his stature. he is a arms dealer and controls all crime but is also very political and yes he will have a weaponized umbrella that we will see throughout the film but only used at the end. here’s where it gets interesting the riddler is definitely in the film and has already been casted. this was the suprise news i received. chris nolan already snuck him in the last film. He was the man named coleman reese, in the dark knight he finds batmans identity. he was snuck in as a easter egg,get it coleman reese-Mr.Reese-Mysteries. in this film he will call himself the man of mysteries. they will show a backstory about his life being ruined and the loss of his family because of the joker threat.he ends up being a murderer highly sophisticated almost like from the movie saw. he is physically a nobody and will have no physical confrontation with batman in the entire film but he will kind of be batmans mental superior and tormenter since he also know batmans identity. at all his murder scenes he will leave behind riddles that appear to make no sense to the murder till the end. the riddles are not riddles to the murder but to batmans identity as bruce wayne. he signs his riddles with the term the man of mysteries, he gets the name riddler from the joker who he sends letters to at arkham. the joker in this movie receives the riddles signed ? before the murders happen. the joker is in this film, originally he was to escape but because of heath’s death they found a new way to add him in the film which makes total sense. he will be a patient at arkham and in the “realistic” world that they are trying to create he will wear no makeup and will just have sever scars on his face from my source(paul bettany was offered the role ). once they realize that he is receiving the same riddles before the murders the city sends in Dr Harleen Quinn i hate to say this but my source says sarah michelle geller will take the part. Dr quinn and joker will have a hannibal lector-clarece type relationship at first until the joker pretty much drives her insane but unlike the comics she ends up killing him at the end and takes on his persona. also mr freeze will be in the movie as dr.fries, he is being set up for a 4th batman movie along with harley quinnn. Dr fries works for wayne enterprises as a medical scientist but because of his dying wife begins doing cryogenic research on animals, near the end of the film he will end up perfecting it on animals and will end up experimenting on a human, Lucious Fox head of wayne enterpriese, yes unfortunately morgan freeman is killed in this film, dr fries ends up being caught and convicted for the criminally insane and is sent to arkham. batman will end up coming out of retirement in the first half of the movie, throughout the beginning he will be bashed by the papers and the news while penguin will kinda be looked upon as a savior who got rid of the freaks. Bruce Wayne understands what he’s done from the last 2 movies and will now turn a blind eye to criminals like the penguin since gangsters will just replace gangsters. but when the man of mysteries aka the riddler is committing murders he decides he will try to stop the freaks, also after a couple riddles he learns that they lead to his identity being released. the main plot between him and the riddler is when he starts trying to beat the cops to the riddles and him and the riddler get into a mental cat and mouse game. the mayor of gotham will end up asking the penguin to hunt down the batman, he will offer him immunity for past crimes and also legitimize the penguins business interests. the movie will end with batman at arkham trying to get to the joker so he can figure out the riddler, harley quinn will kill the joker before this. the penguins goons find out he is at arkham and try to use excessive force in getting to him but end up damaging arkham to the point everyone is freed from his cell. the mayor of gotham will eventually quarantine the entire island and cut it off, so the fourth film will have batman with mr freeze,harley quinn and all the crazies on the island while the riddler and penguin will be in gotham. the fourth film from what i hear will definitely be the last. don’t worry robin is not in the movie, bruce wayne will go to a circus show and just mention that little dick grayson glides like a “robin” and also barbara gordon will oversee and here her father and batman speaking to each other and will bring up a curiosity but definitely no batgirl. it seems though there is a chance we may see a batgirl in the fourth film.
joey b on Mar 19, 2010
@#67 I think you need to have a long talk with whoever your source is. Nolan said himself, that the riddler or Mr.Freeze are not in the film. And I really don't think Nolan would go to the length of screwing up classic characters; Reese? Come on. Everyone knows the riddlers real name is Edward Nigma. I just don't believe a word of this. Nothing against you or anything, it's just this doesn't sound like Nolan material. Nothing of what you said makes any kind of sense.
James on Mar 19, 2010
These movies in Nolan's possession means that we will get a great franchise in addition that i really can't wait for the final story of Batman's Trilogy.
Fisherr on Mar 20, 2010
joey b # 68 you have no clue what you are talking about. he doesn't even have sources, he's just making shit up.
jake the snake on Mar 21, 2010
#68 - joey b Shut the hell up. That's some of the most retarded shit I've ever heard.
SlashBeast on Mar 26, 2010
You guys are all misinterpreting this. He doesn't want to "blow up the balloon" perpetually because that's what you have to do with sequels to sustain interest. You have to keep making them larger and lager in scale or else people aren't satisfied. And that's why he's ending it after the third one. Tying up his story and not making it a James Bond style franchise. And, no, he's not killing Batman, that's an utterly stupid fan theory.
SlashBeast on Mar 26, 2010
#48 - Moviegimp Lol, you obviously have no clue what you're talking about. The original Batman comics had the Caped Crusader hanging out in manhattan, not Gotham City. You know what that means? Batman was always a character who was intended to be in the real world. Now stick with Marvel and their unartistic drivel.
Prototype on May 9, 2010
How about bringing back Larry Holden's Character as a completely different Bad ass. Never did show the body, or him being shot. When he's not cleaned up he can look pretty demonic, talk about DARK. Either way, put him back in something Chris.
SALT on Jul 1, 2010
Having only scanned many posts here, I am surprised there are no opponents to CN's DK. It was laughable. Stealing scenes wholesale from BB. The DK is so seen as incredible due entirely to Mr Ledger's amazing performance. Other than that Christian Bale was ridiculous, the Scarecrow was used as a silly mention to the first film, he killed off one of the longer lasting villas in Two Face... Why the need to always kill off the villain in today hero films? I HATE the fact the he has anything to do with Superman. You owe me my 10 dollars back Mr Nolan, shame on you. You should thank Mr Ledger everyday that he save your crappy movie.
Alec Drummond on Aug 12, 2010
^ Shut the fuck up you whorebag.
Glass on Nov 7, 2010
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