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'Apocalypse' & 'Wolverine 3' to End Bryan Singer's X-Men Universe
by Ethan Anderton
April 28, 2015
Last year's X-Men: Days of Future Past did a spectacular job of essentially rebooting the X-Men franchise, while still meshing the casts of the original trilogy from director Bryan Singer, and the new cast from X-Men: First Class. However, now that there's a new past timeline intact, it sounds like the old one might be coming to an end for good this time. El Mayimbe, the scoopmaster formerly of Latino Review, posted a juicy rumor to Instagram saying that X-Men: Apocalypse and Wolverine 3 will be the final films to have ties to Bryan Singer's X-Men universe, and everything from now on will concern the X-Men: First Class team.
Here's what El Mayimbe posted on Instagram to reveal the rumor:
This sounds wholly plausible, if only because Hugh Jackman has talked about Wolverine 3 being his last outing as the adamantium claweed mutant (though he pulled the reins on that a bit too). At the same time, X-Men: Apocalypse is bringing in a whole slew of new mutants, some of them merely younger versions of mutants we've seen before like Cyclops, Jean Grye, Storm and Nightcrawler. That's the perfect way to set up the First Class franchise to continue and have plenty of mutants to keep the story going, even if it might be without Jennifer Lawrence, who is supposed to be done as Mystique after X-Men: Apocalypse.
That calls into question just how the X-Men franchise will continue after Apocalypse. There's a whole cast of mutants, but the crux of the films, besides a heavy focus on Wolverine, has been the complicated friendship between Charles Xavier (James McAvoy) and Erik Lehnsherr (Michael Fassbender). So those two would need to stick around to keep the franchise working best, not only for the story, but because of the starpower they bring, especially if both Lawrence and Jackman won't be around anymore. You can have as many mutants as you want, but you need some known talent to get more butts in the seats.
As for Wolverine, if this is going to be the end for any association with Bryan Singer's X-Men universe, then what's going to happen to Logan? As of the end of X-Men: Days of Future Past, he was set on a path to being involved with William Stryker (or at least Mystique as Stryker) in the 70s, but in the future, all was fine with the old timeline, with Professor X (Patrick Stewart), Cylcops (James Marsden) and Jean Grey (Famke Janssen) alive and well. So what will happen with Wolverine this time that will bring his story to an end in both of these timelines?
It doesn't sound like Hugh Jackman is meant to have a big role in X-Men: Apocalypse, so it'll be interesting to see what happens with the character there. He could easily be killed in that timeline, or just disappear and be brought back later with a different actor (that will have to happen eventually). But what about Wolverine 3? We've heard the story might involve Wolverine and Professor X doing something together, but we've gotten no indication as to whether that will be in the 80s or in the future, and either one seems reasonable. There's a lot to figure out, but hopefully we'll get clarification soon. Thoughts?
38 Comments
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I thought Firstshowing didn't post rumors on the site, unless it has a big "RUMOR" in front of the title. As far as I can see, this isn't based on anything.
HarryFiddleSticks on Apr 28, 2015
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and it also MAKES no sense , as DOFP WAS the movie that cut such ties .. at least Xmen:APOC Has to follow the timeline of DOFP ; they can spin Wolverine3 anyway they wish ..... tho now that he is in a Uni with Shadowcat , they can do the " Kitty becomes a Ninja " story people clamor for
Dominic on Apr 29, 2015
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And what about the Deadpool and Gambit movie? Channing Tatum is in Apocolypse and the Gamibit movie. Would be weird to seperate those two form each other.
HarryFiddleSticks on Apr 29, 2015
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JLaw saying she won't make another " mutant move " changes alot too , as she was basically going to be carrying that Gambit film as lead Actress , getting it bankrolled . Can Tatum do that ? DP and Gambit being relatively unknown to movie audiences , can be written into any universe easier
Dominic on Apr 30, 2015
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As far as continuing the storyline after Apocalypse, even if for some reason McAvoy and Fassbender abandon their characters after this title, if all goes well with the rest of the cast, I can see them continuing without the larger named actors.
Justin R on Apr 28, 2015
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I agree. Especially of these new young actors pull of their roles well. They could make another x men trilogy maybe called X-Men Reborn? Something like that. Magneto can go back to being the big antagonist and form the brotherhood again. But this time we should get some real fight scenes that aren't half assed like in the original trilogy. There are still other storylines that can be brought to the big screen like Omega Red, The Dark Phoenix, Operation Zero Tolerance, etc.
Chris Anthony Rodriguez on May 1, 2015
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That seems to open the door for 2020s - MARVEL STUDIOS X-Men..... 😀
Dubmaster2010 on Apr 28, 2015
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LOL.
DAVIDPD on Apr 28, 2015
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I'd be all up for a grand finale followed by a 'from scratch' reboot...maybe one that could allow the new Fantastic Four to cross with the new X-Men? Provided the new Fantastic Four film delivers.
Chris Groves on Apr 28, 2015
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this franchise already got rebooted and we have a new cyclops,jean,angel,nightcrawler,storm,jubilee pointless to reboot again
hg on Apr 29, 2015
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It wasn't rebooted from scratch, they make a prequel with a bunch of inconsistencies and then used time travel to try and fix many of the continuity issues in the franchise...all the while retaining many cast members from previous films. It has not received a true reboot.
Chris Groves on Apr 29, 2015
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in comics time travel solved a lot of issues most prominently in the arc they made DFOP on i thought we already agreed Reboots suck ? full or not ... but it seems the studio agrees with you , and is just mixing new characters in without going into Full Reboot mode . Going with a story about all the 1st Class characters entering in a relationship with Charles FIRST , is a total reboot of sorts , isn't it ?
Dominic on Apr 30, 2015
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Not all reboots suck, there are more than a few good reboots. It is just a matter of proper timing, and executing it right. Batman Begins was a fantastic reboot, Amazing Spider-Man was not. The X-Men series/universe is getting a bit too huge and convoluted at this point, and to start over from scratch would actually be very freeing to future filmmakers who come on board.
Chris Groves on Apr 30, 2015
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;?)) actually Chris this is HARDLY too huge and convoluted ; at one time there were 4 XMen groups and Wolverine with their own CBs ..much less any of their "guest-starring " in other books Wait til we get X-Factor and X-Force movies ... it's more like Re-Tooling , than rebooting and starting ALL over again with similar stories , that CBs did
Dominic on May 3, 2015
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Comic books are one thing, a movie franchise is something else entirely. Once you start operating in multiple timelines, and start erasing events of some films(But not others) with time travel, and resurrecting people with time travel....all the while re-casting various characters at will but keeping other characters with the same actors....yes, it becomes to convoluted.
Chris Groves on May 3, 2015
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Welcome to Scripting we CB fans all hold dear ... you'll just have to keep up with the changes , and debate them at will
Dominic on May 3, 2015
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You can hold it dear all you like, but 'great comic book writing' is not the same thing as 'great screenplay writing'. There is a reason that the biggest X-Men film they could put together was only half as successful as The Avengers...
Chris Groves on May 3, 2015
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umm however they are BOTH Comic Book characters ... CB movies usually have nothing to do with great scriptwriting , so no need to critique the genre for not having it .. i never said it WAS great , merely that it was the kind of scripting we CB fans have read for years , so Get Used To It .... The Avengers has a slightly different audience than The XMen ( even tho both teams are Mutants ) basically because they were around in CBs for almost 10 years before a X-character was scripted .. different villains slightly different schtick ...don't worry XMen:APOC will draw prob as good as AOU
Dominic on May 6, 2015
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I'd like to see a decent non-Wolverine side story be made. DEADPOOL may be the first. I would love to see Omega Red get a film. So cool. So weird.
DAVIDPD on Apr 28, 2015
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did you see the new deadpool pic by ryan they look promising
angel figueroa on Apr 29, 2015
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I don't see a X-men movie franchise without Wolverine. Maybe they will recast him?
Miguel Garay Boszeta on Apr 28, 2015
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thank god I was never a big fan of bryan singer xman, they always seemed poorly cast overly focused on wolverine, they never explored the huge library of xman or even the main ones, also the costumes never seemed right marvels costumes we're on point with exception to these movies that aren't attached to the feige ones
angel figueroa on Apr 29, 2015
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Money talks , and new characters haven't built up a MOVIE fanbase , yet . so the movie would have a hard time getting up-front funding the little things ? yeah they changed too much for Years ; because things that work in comics don't always work in reality
Dominic on Apr 29, 2015
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money rules the world no arguing that, but will see some big chances in a huge movie "avengers 2" i haven't seen it yet but apparently mr weadon but allot more time into exploring hawk eye the hulk this vision guy all characters who don't sell as much action figures as iron man combined and yet he felt it was important to build up and explore them deeper, and i have little dought that the 3 highest grossing film franchise had its share of pressure from the studio, i think its really just a leadership and creativity thing, bryan is talented director but his vision for xman is stale
angel figueroa on Apr 29, 2015
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um u seem to be switching ur argument ; didn't you WANT more characters explored ? then what does it matter if IM is third -highest action figure .. if ur trying to point out that Whedon is a better SCRIPTER , then fine . bu I bet those studio pressures you mention have a lot to do with it .. action figures shouldn't dictate movies anyway
Dominic on Apr 30, 2015
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Poorly cast is something hard to get away from when sequels are in the picture.
Bill on Apr 29, 2015
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They replaced Kitty Pryde mutiple times.
Richard Shiflett on Apr 30, 2015
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I think bringing it to a close would be a bold move. I would rather a definitive end than a long drawn out death of the franchise if further movies failed. Plus it allows for planning for a future reboot with as others have suggested less of a focus on Wolverine (though I think Hugh's put a lot of time and effort into a good version).
Steven on Apr 29, 2015
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Thank goodness!!!
Richard Head on Apr 29, 2015
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I think it's going to suck now because people will have high expectations for it, much like Dark Knight Rises. I think they should've finished filming it and 3 months after, announced that's that.
ragethorn on Apr 29, 2015
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Never. I loved it. I just meant the high expectations part. Sorry.
ragethorn on May 29, 2015
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Time for the reboot! Love Hugh, though...
Bl00dwerK on Apr 29, 2015
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Here's my question... I forget if Jackman's Wolverine will be in Apocalypse, but if he is.... How exactly does that work in terms of a follow up from DOFP? When Wolverine woke up in his bed and met with Xavier, he said he didn't know what happened between the events in the 70's till that point, which Xavier said he'd fill him in on. So if Wolverine is in Apocalypse, would be be fighting everything and be totally unaware of the events with Trask industries or how would they work around the fact that he wasn't actually conscious for both events happening in two separate decades? I feel like my question is a little confusing but hopefully someone gets the jist of it.
JBroti on Apr 29, 2015
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"Last year's X-Men: Days of Future Past did a spectacular job of essentially rebooting the X-Men franchise" - Are you high? Mystique "saving" the president was one of the weakest plot devices in recent history. The US in the past and today continue to build the biggest and best weapons for "defense". Having a mutant drop a stadium around you would scare the ever living piss out of anyone! And we as the audience are supposed to believe that her doing a seemingly right thing convinces the president? So dumb. So so dumb. Kills the entire movie.
MaqueeStalker on Apr 30, 2015
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It's not like all humans thought all mutants were good guys. They just stopped the sentinel program.
Anthony on Jun 22, 2015
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Good riddance. Now give me Rachel Grey and Cable.
Richard Shiflett on Apr 30, 2015
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THANKKK GODDDDDD. HE NEEDS TA GEOOO (FRANCO VOICE) START THE CYCLOPS STORYLINE AND GET OFF OF WOLVERINES BITTER OLD DEAD METAL DICK. BUT PATRICK STEWART IS THE PERFECT PROFESSOR X. HE CAN STAY.
jonnyb61 on Apr 30, 2015
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Last year's X-Men: Days of Future Past did a spectacular job of essentially rebooting the X-Men franchise, while still meshing the casts of the original trilogy from director Bryan Singer, and the new cast from X-Men: First Class. No, he didn't. It was a piece of narrative crap. The writing inconsistency found in "X-MEN: FIRST CLASS" didn't help either. And I believe Singer was one of the producers of that film. Why on earth is he doing a third "WOLVERINE" movie? Weren't two enough?
rosie1843 on Dec 12, 2015
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