WORTH WATCHING

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Hmm...alright.

DAVIDPD on Oct 20, 2016

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Hire a good screenwriter guys. Best invest if you want your work to be noticed.

tarek on Oct 20, 2016

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Cargill is not a good screenwriter? Or do you mean, he is and others should follow and hire a good one like him for their projects. 🙂

Alex Billington on Oct 20, 2016

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I don't know this Cargill. Maybe he's a good writer, but the pacing, the scenery, the narrative, they all look like the work of some layman.

tarek on Oct 20, 2016

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Half of what you're describing is the work of the director! Pacing, scenery is all the director's responsibility. Cargill is a former movie writer for AICN under the nickname "Massawyrm". He started writing scripts years ago, and is credited on Doctor Strange and Sinister. He has also written a few books. He's a pretty talented writer, I'd say...

Alex Billington on Oct 20, 2016

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But don't you agree with me that a screenplay is the written form of a movie? It describes the scenes, the camera angle, the dialogues, etc. What it doesn't do is mostly the work of the DP that is shared with the director. So the pacing is mostly defined by the screenplay, and partially by the editing. Correct me if I'm wrong. Now, if we consider the thematic of this movie, many parts bother me. Why do fallen angel still have their wings? Why have they obliterated eyes? Why do fallen angels smoke? They shouldn't have lungs, as in the skies there is no oxygen. Why didn't they show some abilities other than dying and fleeing? Many whys... I know it's proof of concept, but a proof of concept should have internal logic.

tarek on Oct 20, 2016

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Actually, the overwhelming majority of the time, the screenplay only contains dialogue and descriptions of the story itself. RARELY is there any camera angles, character direction, or specifics like that involved. If they are, they're usually thrown out immediatly - those decisions are up to the director and DP.

awesometheo on Oct 20, 2016

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I can be wrong, but what you are describing is a script, not a screenplay, even though people tend to consider them as synonyms. A screenplay is more than a script. It's a written storyboard so to speak.

tarek on Oct 20, 2016

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You're not wrong, but in dealing with films, the term is interchangeable. Though you might see the occasional "shooting script," which may have the director's notes in it. For plays, however, the format changes a bit and may have pauses and such. Also, it's always helpful to remember that this may go out of the window during principle photography and editing. That's why at the end of the day, it's up to the director to share the vision.

awesometheo on Oct 20, 2016

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Hate to say it, but I think you are wrong... Obviously it depends on what the writer puts into the script (btw screenplay/script are interchangeable, have never been told otherwise) and every one is different/unique. Some writers include explicit instructions on tone or mood or visual choices, but others go for streamlined story and let the director make the choices. Specifically pacing is NOT something in a script, that is clearly controlled by the director. The scenery is also the director's choice. The narrative is crafted by the writer, but depending on how much they put into the script, it's still up to the director to interpret and craft their own final product. You should read some screenplays... Your thematic questions are on point. Good questions for the writer (and director) and good criticisms for this film, which is perhaps why it's not as good as it should be. I agree there is something missing, more context to it.

Alex Billington on Oct 21, 2016

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Thanks to both of you Alex and Awesometheo. It's obvious you are more knowledgeable than me with regard to the film process. i will definitely read some scripts to be inspired for my first script that has to come someday down the road...

tarek on Oct 21, 2016

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I somehow doubt a homeless man with a sword and a long range rifle would last very long in America even if he was killing made up creatures.

Carpola on Oct 20, 2016

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I can't see why they'd want to make a feature when even the short lacks story and character. What's so scary about angels with gored out eyes?? Its a bit cliche.

Mr Chatterbox on Oct 21, 2016