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Guy is an epic douche bag. Went so far to ruin other peoples careers to cover up his cheating ways. My dad was a competitive cyclist, and I did some as well. I remember laughing at people who thought he didn't cheat. I never met a cyclist who thought he was clean. Its was very simple to figure out. He was winning in competitive, world class cycling. You only do that by cheating. Because they all do, so either he is a cheat or a literal superman.

Higgens on Feb 10, 2016

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And the mainstream media loved him and, until his confession. they protected him. As they do with so many seemingly virtuous iconic figures.

Gnubbles on Feb 10, 2016

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as higgens points out , those IN the actual cycling community knew what was up , anyway .. i'm not paying attention to the movie Unless : A) it points out that EVERYONE was doing it , and he did start doing whichever technique ( blood doping , steroids , etc ) he did , just to keep up ...for point of fact : it was pointed out in 2013 , that the last 15 winners of the TdF were subsequently caught doping in some way , less than two years after their win ..doubful they started Only After their win B) that maybe , Just Maybe , ths is the one sport in the world that NEEDS a huamn to dope in some way ..tho I would include tri-athletes in that category too .. the closest thing to a HEALTHY way to do it , is blood doping . But even that can 't be done more than 2, or 3 times a week . Obv TdF gvernng body can't sanction the Really unhealthy ways , like steroids . But every third day blood doping , say could be legalized and overseen by the body .... much like th NFL should get over itself , and admit its players need HGH as a recovery tool . Thus the NFL should administrate to its injured players the muscle rebuilding drug , and take them off it when they are certified as healthy enough to play .... and be Open and Above Board about it ..every news outlet gets the list of who is being "treated" this week , and who is ready to not be treated ..because , C'mon , do we REALLY hate Peyton Manning for doing what he had to do , to play this year ??... or his wife for scoring it for him ? Not now , definitely

Dominic on Feb 10, 2016

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If you've ever ridden a bicycle a hundred miles or more , and then tried to do it again the very next day ? ...then u should understand why bikers dope .... the one sunday I did it , I was totally wasted , and couldn't move from my biking buddy's couch for about 3 hours ..until his GF got pissed about us sweating all over the couches ...then I rode 5 more miles home . A 112-mile day ... thsoe guys do 150-190 miles a day . The two off days , two 30-mile time trials , and maybe 1 or 2 90-mile days , don't really help any recovery ...

Dominic on Feb 10, 2016

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I certainly understand, I dont even care that they do it, I care that Armstrong destroyed people for coming clean about doping to protect his bull shit lies. Couldn't care any less about doping or any other performance enhancing honestly. But dont make yourself out to be fuck Zeus of the cycling world somehow able to beat all your peers who are doping. Man is an epic douche, ball cancer...well Karma is a bitch.

Higgens on Feb 10, 2016

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Why are you making excuses for him? Who cares if everyone else was doing it? He was clearly doing it (i.e. drug taking) better than everyone else to rise above their shoulders. I'm not interested in hearing that he's sorry and I pity those gullible enough to swallow that line of BS. This wasn't a one off incident, a moment of madness that could be forgiven but a systematic concerted plan stretched over a number of years. I don't want to hear that he was flawed in some kind of placatory 'we're all flawed in some way and it was only a little lie'. It needs no softening, no excuses and certainly no sympathy. He was a liar and a deceitful cheat and he profited from both of those actions. A wholly contemptible individual.

Payne by name on Feb 11, 2016

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facts , aren't excuses .... TDF is a niche sport ; most don't know the ins and outs of it . It takes more endurance than any sport besides Triathlons . Few are good enough to be title contenders for one year , much less many years i'm saying if he HADN"T we never would have heard his name . Which is good motivation , in any industry . Best he would have been was a domestique , winning one race a Tour , but helping someone else win it all . He had enough of that , the year he did it for Indurain . The WHOLE sport was cheating in a systematic way . So I"M sayin' don't load all the outrage on him ; just his due , for being a egotistical bad winner ... Tho it's not much of a NewsFlash , that an athlete has an ego . Or enjoys his winning the wrong way I also don't take personal umbrage that I was "fooled" by his media image ; again because we in cycling knew what was up , long ago

Dominic on Feb 12, 2016

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I'll load my outrage on any proven cheat. However, this film is all about him and HIS cheating, hence my outrage is at HIM rather than the sport. It's funny how you say that you can understand his motivation for wanting people to know his name and that he didn't want to be a domestique but can't then see that you are creating excuses for him.

Payne by name on Feb 13, 2016

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do you Know ANYTHING about Professional Cycling ? for the last 35 years ? if u did , you would know those FACTS , of his chosen profession .. .. it's only an excuse , when those above aren't doing those behaviors , and u can't measure up to Their skills otherwise you take the quiz : what would YOU do , when everyone in your Chosen Profession that is good enough to be Close to the top , is taking illegal suplements or draining their blood out so it can be cleaned and put back in . Do YOU do what they did , so that YOU can be at the Top with them ? or do u stay totally clean in your morals , knowing that means u won't even be in the top 100 of your Chosen Profession ? Ego rules , here ....if ur fine just being ON the team , then u won't do it . but if u want to WIN ? then u do whatever it takes ...Don't act like this isn't usual human behavior , wrong or not .. in almost every sport out there ... higgens has the right view , here ... below

Dominic on Feb 15, 2016

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I don't need to know the fine intricacies of the sport to recognise cheating. You still however seem to be struggling with the concept that your response is full of EXCUSES (excuse - try to find reasons for a fault or offence; try to justify). No one held a gun to his head, no one forced him to take drugs to "be in the top of his profession". He made a choice, knowing what it entailed. Saying 'everyone else was doing it' is an excuse - pure and simple. Just as, I don't know, looting a telly because there was a riot going on would be the same type of excuse.

Payne by name on Feb 16, 2016

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- Here's your blind spot : i never said it WASN"T cheating .. - being a top rider in the TDF , the top race of your sport , is quite different from joining rioting in a ghetto street . Much different motivations ... - WAKE UP ! the world does not live in Black and White ... Shades of Grey abound , everywhere ... .you debate binarily , like Republicans who ACT like they know nothing of Nuance and/or Context . Because it challenges their faith in their ideololgy too strongly ...

Dominic on Feb 18, 2016

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I have to laugh at you saying I debate binarily whilst completely missing the point of my rioting example. I wasn't comparing the opportunism of rioting (by the way they don't only happen in "ghetto streets" Mr black & white) with the dedication of top flight cycling but rather the idea that you could sidestep your self responsibility with the indemnifying 'everyone was doing it'.

Payne by name on Feb 18, 2016

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he's a douchebag for how he treated people , while he was in media stardom . Basically sowing the seeds of his own defeat , with his controlling , insulting treatment of friends and fellow riders . not for the doping .

Dominic on Feb 10, 2016

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Well you should definitely watch the movie then because he comes across as an asshole. But all the top cyclists cheat so don't make just him out to be the bad guy. Can't give the medal to the next in line cause chances are they cheated too

alex on Feb 10, 2016

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After hearing his side of the story on the Joe Rogan Experience, I understand why he did what he did during the accusation period. He is a flawed man, he know's it, and he is very, very sorry. He made mistakes. // This looks like a great performance from Foster. He is a talent.

DAVIDPD on Feb 11, 2016

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It wasn't a mistake, it wasn't a momentary lapse of judgement. It was a determined and long term plan to cheat and lie his way to the top. The only thing he is sorry about is that he got caught otherwise he'd still be happily mugging you off and welcoming your fawning adulation.

Payne by name on Feb 11, 2016

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I get it. He effed up, big. But he definitely paid the price. He is just trying to do his best to make up for his poor decision making.

DAVIDPD on Feb 11, 2016

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Saying he effed up is excusing him that this was a mistake or as you say "poor decision making". It wasn't a poor decision. It was character revealing, consistent cheating. He committed to the action of cheating and sustained it for a number of years. He didn't have a pang of conscience and reveal to the world his lying. It only came about because he got found out. He's not now trying to make up for it, just trying to secure additional revenue and still profit from his deceit.

Payne by name on Feb 12, 2016

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Ben Foster is made for this role, but the whole story ... I don't know ...

shiboleth on Feb 11, 2016

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The best cheater of a cheaters game. The real winners came in last. I'm definitely looking forward to Fosters performance. The guy always shines in his roles.

Xerxexx on Feb 11, 2016