TRAILERS

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First! (I opened this page just after watching the trailer on TV) Oh, and I stopped watching it halfway. John Williams score blaring, ghost Jedi/Sith voices, lightsabers, epic space shots, ghost Jedi/Sith voices, aww moment, more space shots... it's a just a jumbly mess. Like the last 10 trailers for the last 2 films. The original trailer for Force Awakens was great though. I just want to be done with all of this now. Episodes I, II, III, VII and VIII just don't live up to the originals. Doubt XI will either.

Akirakorn on Oct 21, 2019

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This isnt John's score. This is trailer music based on the Williams music.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 21, 2019

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But the core of it is still John's score

Have Hope on Oct 22, 2019

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Exactly. And he did score the movie, so it's just a matter of them using something different for the trailer.

Alex Billington on Oct 22, 2019

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Alex. WTF? THIS IS CUSTOM TRAILER MUSIC. The composer tweeted about it. Its BASED on WILLIAMS Themes. Nothing more. Williams would never approve such loud abrasive use of this music. Geezzz dude.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 22, 2019

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First off... wow these comments (all of them on this page, not just this thread) are heading into a "Nation's Fire level of shitstorm". (I'm insulting the comments on the trailer page here on FS, not the movie.) Second, I said John Williams score because any variation of that score will be associated with to John Williams. Even if it's a bad remix of John Williams' iconic theme... it's still John Williams' iconic theme in there.

Akirakorn on Oct 22, 2019

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wtf, calm down dude...the tweet even says Willams contributed so yes he would approve of this music! "To reiterate, I am not solely responsible for the entire music throughout this trailer. Although I am not sure who they are, a few other composers made fantastic contributions, and of course, our beloved John Williams. Thank you so much!" @getblake

desispeed on Oct 22, 2019

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The trailer composer thanks Williams because its customary, you dimwit. Williams has nothing to do with these trailer scores other than they are using his melodies.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 23, 2019

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Are you retarded? I never said it wasn't. The Trailer music is custom composed for the trailers BASED on Williams THEMES. Does that make sense? BTW Williams would pass out if you would hear this crap. Its offensive IMO.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 22, 2019

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If you mean by "core" melody then yes, that's based on Williams work.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 23, 2019

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Yep. I'm excited.

grimjob on Oct 21, 2019

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Same. Same.

Alex Billington on Oct 22, 2019

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Wish I could share your feelings, but like cs I felt no connection to these new characters.. the last movie completely ruined any chance of me ever enjoying these movies again, I will try though, I will be there to see it hoping for the best

Tester on Oct 22, 2019

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I wish you could give this one a chance and let them bring it all back around! I don't think the second movie ruined much, it's a second movie, it's a progressive step to get us towards this final showdown.

Alex Billington on Oct 22, 2019

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You sound like such a shill, is Disney paying you for these comments?

4chan on Oct 22, 2019

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Nope. Disney doesn't like me much. I just love Star Wars, so fuck right off with your nonsense.

Alex Billington on Oct 22, 2019

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Haha.

David Diaz on Oct 22, 2019

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Gee, being very defensive aren't You? At least make a real counter argument before you start throwing language like that around for no reason.

4chan on Oct 22, 2019

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Dude, your calling him a shill and you talking about language?

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 22, 2019

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You're right, shill should be banned from the English language for its rude and degrading definition.

4chan on Oct 22, 2019

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By definition you basically said that he's dishonest because Disney pays him. No smart ass counter comment can cover that. So if you going around accusing people, they can get defensive. noun an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 23, 2019

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Lmao either you're his boyfriend or something, but what is it to you that I sarcastically said he was a shill? Any normal person wouldnt have taken to such offense over that, especially a third party butting in for no reason.

4chan on Oct 23, 2019

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Hahahaha you are insane.

Alex Billington on Oct 24, 2019

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Coming from an anonymous nobody off the internet...your entire existence is a joke. Unless you can prove it otherwise. But knock yourself out...

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 26, 2019

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Oh shit, its the incel hacker known as 4chan!

Cincinasty on Oct 22, 2019

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😉

4chan on Oct 22, 2019

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Like I said, I will try... but going in expecting the worst and hoping for the best..

Tester on Oct 22, 2019

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Come on. You didn't mind the whole Luke fiasco? I think you are very forgiving Alex. 🙂

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 22, 2019

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I completely understand. The last one pissed me right off, but I've loved the franchise my entire life, one shit movie isn't enough for me to just write it off. But, there's a lot riding on this one. If they drop the ball on this one, I'll probably just forget these 3 exist.

grimjob on Oct 22, 2019

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Felt no emotion watching the trailer. But, I’ve already decided not to watch the film. Looks horrible.

cs on Oct 22, 2019

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Same. Zero. Nothing.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 22, 2019

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Oh dear sweet Jesus why? The only redeeming factor to this schlock is the fact that Billy Dee is back, I repeat the king of smooth is back, would've been sweeter if he had graced us with his smoothness in 'The Force Awakens'. Please no more Star Wars!!! I say that with love!!!

Sergio R. on Oct 22, 2019

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That trailer was empty and crap. All fluff no substance. Star Wars is truly finished.

Have Hope on Oct 22, 2019

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No way! Definitely not. We don't know the full context behind all of these shots. Plus this the grand finale of a 9 movie saga! They have to go all out, deliver something truly extraordinary.

Alex Billington on Oct 22, 2019

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I'm with you there. Can't wait. Got my tickets right before the trailer aired at half time. So many fans have their minds already made up about this trilogy. They can hate it all they want. I'm going to enjoy the crap out it! I will say though that this particular trailer didn't make me as emotional or as excited as previous SW trailers have.

David Diaz on Oct 22, 2019

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Too much damage has been done, and purely providing fan service is not how films should be made. There is nothing in this trailer that excites me because nothing in the last two films have gotten me excited

Have Hope on Oct 23, 2019

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I don't think this is "purely providing fan service", especially considering it IS the conclusion of a 9-movie saga involving the Skywalkers. The middle movie is the middle movie in this trilogy. The Two Towers is my least favorite LOTR movie. But I definitely wouldn't say that ROTK is pure "fan service". Don't judge it by the trailer! Give it a chance in theaters.

Alex Billington on Oct 23, 2019

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Alex I seriously think you being blinded by visual noise. At its core, no one at the end of TLJ was in distress. They all smiled and hugged it out. Compare that to the drama in Empire. From a pure story telling point of view. How long was Luke's training compared to Reys? Finns mission in TLJ was a complete waste of time. And turning luke into what Rian did was just inexcusable.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 23, 2019

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No one at the end of most movies are in distress. Ha! The point of that was to progress the characters a little bit, and then time jump again. The movie's don't need to directly connect one-after-another. They can jump through time and give us a continuation that is years later.

Alex Billington on Oct 24, 2019

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I don't even remember who half these people are.

Dan Hibiki on Oct 22, 2019

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Well, there's Rey. And there's Finn, and Poe, and Rose. And then there's Chewie! And 3PO, and R2D2. And Leia! She's in there. And Lando. Yeah, they're all there. Does that help? 😛

Alex Billington on Oct 22, 2019

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Well lets see: Why do you care about Rey? Without any training, she almost beat Kylo in the TFA already. Compare her struggles with Lukes in the OT. Theres no comparison. Finn had a good start. I liked the Stormtropper idea. But it went nowhere. Nothing he did in TLJ was useful. Poe? Yeah let me make a phone call to the emperor and see what he thinks about my flying skills..plueesssse. Rose? HAHAHAHAHA - the only person or character id care about is Lando and he is in it for prob 5 mins.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 22, 2019

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What about Wedge? Akbar has his meme but Wedge gets no credit at all. F--- this, we need Star Wars: Episode X: The Rise of Wedge!

Akirakorn on Oct 22, 2019

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I would pay good money to watch this.

Alex Billington on Oct 22, 2019

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What about Porkins? Where was his origin story?

MAWG on Oct 22, 2019

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I heard the were supposed to have one out scheduled for 2017, but they couldn't... stay on target.

Akirakorn on Oct 22, 2019

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Rumor is Wedge is in it.

Mama on Oct 23, 2019

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Well, this looks amazing. It really looks epic. Can't wait to see how it ends!

kitano0 on Oct 22, 2019

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Not the best trailer, to much old stuff emotions. Still going to to watch it.

ari smulders on Oct 22, 2019

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Even if you didn't care for the last ones, how can you not want to see the ending movie? I'm in...even if its just to see Lando one last time.

SteadyEddieTX on Oct 22, 2019

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Exactly... I hope everyone likes it! I really do.

Alex Billington on Oct 22, 2019

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I have my tickets for opening night... but I am looking far more forward to the evening out with my buddies than actually watching the movie.

Jimmy Rabbitte on Oct 23, 2019

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Kinda like watching all the episodes of Season 8 of GoT 🙂

Drestin Black on Oct 24, 2019

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On the end, something is going to happen, something beautiful, right, huh? I mean, that was always first class mindless fun and hardly something worth of dubious analysis. All the way since 1970s. And that's the way I'm going to enjoy it. One of its conseqences is helping to provide us so many other sagas for the last decades (of course, not all of them were good). And only some sentimental reason can be a motive to exaggerate in revering this one over others...

shiboleth on Oct 22, 2019

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Hmm,, Seems like some antipathy going on here ...Hopefully not because of unrecognized misogyny , but just boredom with the story . Three Trilogies ( 4 ?? ) may be the limit , on what interests movie audiences . In essence , this is just another remake , however well-spun the tale is .. There Is a Point , in these sci-fi soap operas , where the Visuals don't make up for what the Story may be lacking I didn't see either of the last two in theatres ...Daisy's first movie was OK on the small screen . I guess the 2nd one will be out on cable before the third one comes out Dec 20th ... The only real judge of how good this is , will be if it passes the TWO Billion mark ;?)) not even the One Billion ..As the movie itself plus its promotional costs , are prob approaching the 1 Bill mark ...

Dominic on Oct 22, 2019

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"Hopefully not because of unrecognized misogyny." Chill out with that. Not everyone who is critical of The Last Jedi hates women. Come on.

Mama on Oct 23, 2019

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Agreed! I like Daisy Ridley, but I don't feel like they've written her character well enough. We're going into the third movie and I still don't feel properly drawn to Rey or Finn or Poe...

Jimmy Rabbitte on Oct 23, 2019

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They're young " millenial " rebels ... one with a power she really doesn't want , but will wield when necessary ..Reluctant Heroes ... But because of who they are trying to appeal to, there's no backstory to her character , correct ? ( Like I said didn't see the 2nd movie ) So you don't know who her Mom is , say , or where exactly she came from/grew up at ....You saw Luke's roots from the beginning , for comparison ... It's all about her in Action .. they put such backstory in the Deleted Scenes , now ....

Dominic on Oct 23, 2019

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I didn't SAY " Everyone" and after what has gone on in the last few years , it's a viable question .....I don't remember anyone complaining about whether Hamill or Ford are being "wriiten right" or that anyone was tired of seeing them . from half these comments here SOME are a little tired of this franchise . And how its being presented .. Always good to check yourself ....

Dominic on Oct 23, 2019

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I've seen that throne poster scene before in the last episode of Game of Thrones. Hopefully R2 will melt the throne down with his torch or boosters.

Lewis on Oct 22, 2019

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MASSIVE SPOILER: Chewie was the real Sith Master all along! He knew the offspring of Han Solo and Leia Organa would be his successor. That's why he allowed himself to be taken prisoner in the Solo film. (just kidding)

Akirakorn on Oct 22, 2019

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Please don't suck, please don't suck, please don't suck... https://media0.giphy.com/media/3ohhwjIjLLWBh4EQRW/giphy.gif

THE_RAW_ on Oct 22, 2019

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Looks amazing, but then so did TFA & TLJ, and look at how they turned out. I hope it ties up the Saga and is well received, but will wait for reviews before considering the big screen.

Lewis on Oct 22, 2019

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I didnt think TFA was that bad. I didn't love it but it was a decent start or so I thought at the time. But TLJ sucked all of the SW enjoyment out of my body. I mean I watched it with Alex together and he warned me ahead of time. To counter balance the shit job on TLJ, it looks like the Mandalorian will be fantastic. Also the Diego Luna driven show sounds interesting. So not all hope is gone as they say. 🙂

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 22, 2019

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I enjoyed TFA for what it was, though felt it was a missed opportunity at the time and still do. I recall be so excited in the cinema at the start and then cringing with the introduction of Starkiller base and later the trench run attack.

Lewis on Oct 22, 2019

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It makes me almost angry how easily people get trapped into this excitement because of visual noise. Ohh ahhhh look, more bigger effect shots. Oh they brought back Lando because you know, they killed the rest of the of the OG crew off (RIP Carrie Fisher). Im not sure how anyone can honestly call these good movies. Opinions sure. But if you get to the core of it, people are distracted by visuals so they are OK with bland characters and no story. Compare the ending from Empire to Last Jedi and you know what I mean. Star wars ended with Return of the Jedi. At least for myself speaking. But knock yourselves out by giving yourself into Disney's spell of empty voids.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 22, 2019

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Well said. It's over. The end of star wars was Return of the Jedi, and people just need to make peace with that.

Have Hope on Oct 23, 2019

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I did. Still. Its hard. Of course being extremely opinionated is never a good thing. Im guilty of that too. I just felt there was so much potential and Disney took the easy way out. I still think that they underestimated the power of the OG cast. Killing of han was cheap and killing of Luke was unforgivable.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 23, 2019

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Honestly, nothing special about the first three films or about these three, recent, ones. Discussing about them means exercising too much effort and about too small (or no) differences in quality. George Lucas was a future of Disney and Disney is what George Lucas needs/needed to be a legend. Two sides of the same coin, historically and creatively very close. As you said, both of these can be seen as a 'spell of empty voids', but also as a piece of entertainment for their times. They don't really offer a chance to think deeply about the quality, just a chance to enjoy entertainment and nothing more, a pure energy and a motor of film industry. But no substantial history in any of those and definitely almost no differences among them. People are trying too much to define the emptiness and shallowness of entertainment in film industry with these ...

shiboleth on Oct 23, 2019

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I’m back! Although I believed JJ should’ve just did Last Jedi, I’m happy he’s back to wrap it all up. This has been a journey for sure.

Brandon Cole on Oct 22, 2019

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I'll be curious to see how they close out Leah.

DAVIDPD on Oct 22, 2019

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With CG she doesn't have to ever "die" lol

Drestin Black on Oct 24, 2019

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Will Finn save Rey from going to the dark side? Will senator Palpatine finally have his revenge on everyone? Why does it sound like 3po swallowed a balloon? These are the questions that keep me up at night.

Charles Knowlton on Oct 22, 2019

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My problem is: Palpatine was clearly killed off in ROTJ. And the other problem is, having him back, reduces the impact the scene in ROTJ. Its yet another "we have no idea" Disney bullshit to fake some excitement.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 22, 2019

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Wow! Look at all the comments on this! I've never really been a fan of these Star Wars movies, but watched one with this new young actress and I really liked her. She got the role of a life time and serves it well. She was a great find and perfect casting. Then there's Driver so I'm happy with that. I'll watch it in how many years it takes it to come to cable...lol...

thespiritbo on Oct 22, 2019

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With Disney's streaming service coming out next month, I doubt it will ever come to cable.

grimjob on Oct 22, 2019

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Really? I saw one on cable with this young actress and saw another one with that Felicity Jones in it. On cable. If they stream it they never make a deal with cable? Hmmmm......oh well.

thespiritbo on Oct 23, 2019

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They still have deals with other companies. A bunch of their movies are on Netflix, but they'll be going away soon. Disney is a greedy bastard, and they've got a new toy to sell people, so it makes sense they'd make their service the only option for their own properties. But hey, I could be wrong. Maybe they're the one corporation that doesn't want all the money.

grimjob on Oct 23, 2019

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You know more about it than me, obviously...lol...I do get what you are saying about Disney. Oh well...maybe I'll never see this then...lol...shucks!

thespiritbo on Oct 24, 2019

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This looks horrible. I don't dislike Ray because she's a woman (give me a break) I dislike her character because she is a Mary Sue of epic proportions without any flaws or backstory. Poor writing

Drestin Black on Oct 24, 2019

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Yeah this was disproved and debunked many, many times by actual women and real writers and... Yeah. You even spelled her name wrong.

Alex Billington on Oct 24, 2019

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That's not even an argument. Where's you're argument?

4chan on Oct 24, 2019

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No reason to argue against made up bullshit...

Alex Billington on Oct 24, 2019

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Huge fans of something are prone to overlook things that objective observers see. If you love something you think it's perfect and shiny. (not meant as an insult) I would try to watch this movie as I watch any - I rate it on it's own merits, not how I felt about it's history. BUT The past two movies are just so bad I can't see how this one is going to salvage the direction they've gone and this trailer gives me little hope. It's kinda like Marvel films, long on CG and short on logical story telling (at least they have the "it's only a comic" excuse to fall back on). This is girls (Kennedy and clan) gone wild. All we need is a transgender character and the circle jerk is complete.

Drestin Black on Oct 24, 2019

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He didnt started with an argument. Alex turned it into an argument which basically said, "you're wrong and im right".

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 24, 2019

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Huh? How can you "disprove" or "debunk" an opinion of a character? This isn't "made up bullshit" - this is an opinion that does happen to be shared by others, but it's my opinion. Does she have any significant back story? Why should we care about her? What's our investment in someone without any real flaws, super powered and does anything without fear of any repercussions? Without real training or experience she kicks Kylo's butt repeatedly. Even if "the force is strong with this one" - she doesn't have experience wielding it. She is the very definition of a "Mary Sue". Point me to some of these "real" women writers posts. I'm finding FAR more posts saying she's 1 dimensional.

Drestin Black on Oct 24, 2019

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This is some women-hating BS that a few upset men came up with. The definition of "Mary Sue" is a concept and yes, you can be wrong and calling someone that can be debunked because it's not an opinion. Complaining about Rey (which you couldn't even spell right FFS! so obvious) is so 2015 - whiny boys who can't handle the main character and new Jedi being a woman. Wah wah. And yes, the "she's just a Mary Sue" crap was some bullshit a few people manufactured up just to make themselves feel better. It's nonsense.

Alex Billington on Oct 24, 2019

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Bro. First off, a spelling error typing quickly on my phone is the most accurate you've come. There is nothing wrong with examining and critically determining someone is over powered. Rey is. I happen to love strong female characters. Was Ripley a Mary Sue? Nope. Sarah Connor? Nope. Issues with any of them? Nope! They have back stories, they have character flaws, they have limitations, they have character arcs, they face obstacles and struggle to overcome them. They are realistic. And they are strong and they kick men's butts as needed, when it fits the story. EVERY character type is manufactured - but it comes from a reason. This movie will have spectacular CG and probably great sound. What it lacks is a compelling or logical story and characters that are not either trivial and flat or illogical. I could write paragraphs on how unlikely many of the characters are and how they lack any back story of any kind to explain their inconsistencies. If you are predestined to love this movie, that's cool. Sincerely, enjoy it. Please! But do not try to tell others how to feel about the characters that are right there up on the big screen and many people have stated the same, starting with my GF who finds Rey boring because she can do anything effortlessly.

Drestin Black on Oct 24, 2019

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He clearly doesn't like the character in the MOVIE. Alex I think you need to chill and realize, your opinion isn't a fact. And this is exactly what I meant when TLJ came out. God forbid to critic the Rose character because I will be labeled immediately a women hater. If i critic Finn's character what, does this make me a racist? Nothing in what he said was women hating. He seems just disappointed by the writing. Give it a rest.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 24, 2019

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There's a difference between "I don't like this character" and "this character is a [made up thing] and that's why she sucks." Honestly, I think he should give it a rest. He's not a fan of her, big deal, move on. Let others enjoy these movies.

Alex Billington on Oct 25, 2019

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My wife can't stand her, does that make her a woman hater? The character does have traits of a Mary Sue, which hasn't been helped with poor writing. Rey beat Kylo because he was wounded in TFA and yet despite Chewie's blaster shot all that is seen healing in TLJ is the scar on his face, despite him taking his top off later (hence a missed chance to reinforce the notion of Chewie's blast restricting Kylo). No dialogue required, just a scar or a band aid!

Lewis on Oct 26, 2019

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The whole "Rey beat Kylo couldn't happen!" thing has been debunked. And you're more than welcome to voice your opinion on her as a character, but trying to point out "plot hole" issues that have been debunked isn't very good criticism, it's just nagging and complaining because things aren't the way you want. I don't see any problems with Rey except that she didn't progress that much in TLJ, but I think I felt that way just because it's a middle movie getting us to this last one.

Alex Billington on Oct 26, 2019

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I'm just saying be it there or not, it isn't very obvious and a scene like that could have easily reinforced Kylo as scarred both physically and mentally. A scene shouldn't need to be scrutinised in order to debunk something. In regard to Rey, she's is still overly powerful with little training, but those questions can be answered in TRoS. I have no issue with the ambiguity of her heritage.

Lewis on Oct 27, 2019

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Well, it is a Star Wars movie after all. I have no problem with your opinion about the Rey character. I'm not a fan of these movies and critiquing the writing and characterizations in them seems a bit like a waste of time. It is what it is and it ain't Citizen Kane. If you say your dislike isn't because she's a woman I find no reason to not believe you. Who is MarySue anyway? I like this young actress. I like watching her. I felt she was cast well and achieved what the director and writers wanted from the character. Again, it's Star Wars, man...lol...and of course it's poor writing. It's Chinatown, Jake....lol...

thespiritbo on Oct 24, 2019

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Can I just inject something positive and say that Rogue One was done really well. I know its nothing to do with the sequels but I thought it was one of the best newly made look old school SW movies. The ending ties in amazingly well with ANH and I just thought the droid was funny and so well done. It had the exactly "proper" (IMO) SW humor and none of that slapstick Muppet crap. The idea was good and it was (despite re shoots) executed really well. or so I thought. Its amazing that you can care about the RO characters more in one movie than anyone in the sequels. And it barely had any light saber fights. The focus was on the characters and the story. Proves that if done right, it will work.

Sascha Dikiciyan on Oct 25, 2019

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Amen.

Alex Billington on Oct 26, 2019